A quick Hellbat vs. Darkseid debunk

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#1 Posted by IronLord2212 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

(My first post. Have mercy ._. ) A lot of people who suffer from the I'm Batman syndrome A.K.A saying that he can do anything and everything without providing actual feats, often bring Hellbat into the argument and say that Hellbat has beaten the crap out of Darkseid and that Darkseid barely survived Hellbat and that Hellbat has even killed Darkseid. However, that is not the case. Hellbat and Darkseid fought in Batman and Robin: Issue 37 (New 52).

On Page 5, Hellbat delivers his first punch to Darkseid

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On Page 6, we see Darkseid thrashing Hellbat as opposed to a punch.

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On Page 8, we see Darkseid thrashing Batman again...

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On Page 9, we see Darkseid crushing Hellbat with his foot and tearing his wings off

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On Page 11, we see Hellbat delivering his second and third (final) punch

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On Page 12, we see Darkseid delivering a punch to Hellbat

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On Page 13, Darkseid fires the Omega Beams at Hellbat and Hellbat uses the Chaos Shard to attract the Omega Beams like a magnet. He used the power to charge his suit up to 100% and here on Page 14, he fires a blast which knocks Darkseid on his feet and Darkseid does not look damaged or as if he were about to lose the fight.

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On Page 15, the Hellbat suit gives Batman a hazard warning. The suit integrity has been compromised and the core is being magnified.

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At this point, as you can see, Darkseid literally doesn't give a shit and lets Hellbat escape. 3 punches and one blast as opposed to 1 punch, wings teared off, and the thrashing that Darkseid gave him, let alone the fact that he let him escape at the end even though he could grab him and finish him off. Thanks for reading. Cheers :)

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#2 Posted by IronLord2212 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Page 11 was repeated. I'm so sorry ;_;

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#3 Posted by tcrighton (193 posts) - - Show Bio

Nicely done for a first post! I agree, the power of the Hellbat suit has been greatly exaggerated and it baffles me as to why. It is known that the suit slowly kills the user, so, in this particular fight between Hellbat and Darkseid, it is a no-brainer Darkseid would win because he would need to merely outlast Bruce until the suit kills him. Now, Hellbat suit against Aquaman or GL or Cyborg would be an interesting match; however, Hellbat versus Darkseid, WW, or Superman is clear win for the latter three. Again, nice job!

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#4 Posted by EcstaticGrace (7394 posts) - - Show Bio

@tcrighton: Lois in HellBat was stalling Eradicator who because of Kryptonian Souls was pretty powerful above PC Superman.

I'd honestly assume Bruce in HellBat > Lois in HellBat

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#5 Posted by entropy_aegis (21007 posts) - - Show Bio

HellBat couldn't beat Darkseid? WOW nobody knew that...

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#6 Posted by IronLord2212 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: This article is meant for those Batman fanboys who overhype him and say that he easily beat Darkseid though they have never even read the comic

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#7 Posted by entropy_aegis (21007 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: This article is meant for those Batman fanboys who overhype him and say that he easily beat Darkseid though they have never even read the comic

No one ever said anything about Batman beating Darkseid with Hellbat, please provide proof of the existence of these imaginary fanboys.

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#8 Posted by IronLord2212 (7 posts) - - Show Bio

@entropy_aegis: I'm not lying or kidding if that's what you think. I'm in a couple of FB groups and it comes up all the time in the groups and also some comic related pages. It has come up twice today.

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#9 Edited by Insigniad (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe you left out one crucial fact: If batman were not scouting the whole planet of Apokolips and slaying parademons all day, it would have been a much fairer fight. Also, that means the Hellbat suit drains metabolism at an extremely slow rate.

Essentially it was Hellbat at it's weakest VS. Base Darkseid

Regardless, batman still packed a punch.

I wish we got to see more of this suit and it sucks that we couldn't see a fair fight either.

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#10 Posted by Rurgandy (480 posts) - - Show Bio

Does it really matter? The narrative focus of this story was Batman going through hell to resurrect his son, and Darkseid was chosen as a physical representation of the obstacles he had to overcome. That's all there is to it.

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#11 Posted by jackiplier (302 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone knew Hellbat couldn't beat Darkseid -- I don't get the point of the thread.
However, I see many people on vines are underestimating Hellbat. Saying that classic Iron Man suit can beat Hellbat and even Black Panther himself. Let's face it, Hellbat is near Kryptonian level, and it also seems to have an regenerative ability. (The wings regenerated)

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#12 Posted by Look_at_dis_duuude (68 posts) - - Show Bio

I haven't seen nor thought too many people said Hellbat beat Darkseid...but still, it's true a lot of people really low ball the armour...I mean, this thing was forged in the goddam sun by superman, speed force tested by The Flash, built and designed wings by Green Lantern, and whatever that little special something Aquaman and Wonder Woman put in...the things higher than most armours.

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#13 Posted by Look_at_dis_duuude (68 posts) - - Show Bio

Not to mention with Cyborg's tech too.

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#14 Posted by Insigniad (2 posts) - - Show Bio

@rurgandy said:

Does it really matter? The narrative focus of this story was Batman going through hell to resurrect his son, and Darkseid was chosen as a physical representation of the obstacles he had to overcome. That's all there is to it.

Good point.

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#15 Posted by XLR87T3 (10394 posts) - - Show Bio

The most overrated batsuit ever

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