With the new Superman Beyond book, I hope we'll see a Justice League Beyond book in the future and maybe this could be a good way to introduce new characters. We know that something happened to Hal, Kyle, John, and Guy since there's a new GL on the JLB (most likely they got old), but I do agree that I would like to see other characters and learn what happened to them like Flash. We know that with Micron he's most likely the predecessor of Atom, I would like to know what happened to some of the Teen Titans like Superboy, Wonder Girl, Cyborg, ect as well. I could honestly see this becoming somewhat as DC's "ultimate universe" since they can go in almost any direction they want with it being in the future.
Off My Mind: Where are All The Heroes in Batman Beyond?
I really, really don't want to see an entire line of Beyond books. My reasoning is because it will detract from Batman Beyond. I'm okay with Superman Beyond; I think the series can work well with the right creators, but to expand the Beyond universe into an entire line would make it too similar to the regular DCU. In my opinion, there's nothing that anyone could do to make the Beyond universe different enough from the DCU proper if most of the same characters are running around.Batman Beyond is about a dystopian future -- one where heroes aren't really around; about a cynical, old and tired Bruce Wayne, and about a new hero coming into his own under that mantle of the Bat. You start adding all kinds of characters to that story, or at least telling those stories, you lose the dystopia, you lose the charm of Terry McGinnis rising up in a world where not much else is good, etc..I love Batman Beyond. It's a book that I can't wait to get every month. I'm excited for Superman Beyond, but anything after that will really disappoint me. I wouldn't mind a Justice League mini down the road or something, but I'd hate to see ongoings start popping up.Nail on the head, folk.
I have to admit that the reason I wasn't fond of the Batman Beyond show was exactly because they didn't give you an inside to any of the other heroes or villians. It made me feel like I had just left narnia for a year, and came back 300 years later in their time like in the movie. I felt lost. But other than feeling lost it was a pretty good show. Just not one that I would re-rewatch.
i think in one of the recent batman beyond issues, in that little Q&A letters piece at the end, they hinted a justice league Beyond or something revolving around them.
Simply YES. This series doesn't have to worry about comic story strings 'AT ALL' because it was created on television and as such is easier to catch up on.
I've actually spent a wealth of time for (better or worse) obsessing over the Beyond universe. I feel like I have a pretty good grip on what it was essentially about.
It was a dark future were heroes where broken and villains controlled everything. Blight/ Mr. Freeze/ Curare were bad but they all are villains with some since of order to them, and in that order people could still live. But the chaos created by the Joker gang completely crumbles society, and that led to the re-creation of Batman.
A theme in the series and cross overs was the reemerging of the hero, new heroes and survival of the struggle in this dark future more fit for jokers. What a good line of three or four Beyond titles would do is bring the rest of the DCU into Batman's darker idea of reality, essentially modeling everyone from a more human batman perspective/ where as everything now is all super powers and alien planets, I'd say modeled more after Supermans experience.
There are a few Beyond teams to start with already: Bat and Bruce, Justice League Beyond, Zeta Project (the short lived tv series of the same universe), Static and Gear (the mature veteran heroes).
With additions of Wonder Woman for the old people banter with Bruce and Clark alone.
I recommend another short series that shows the events that destroyed the watch tower, and set in-stone who survived and who died, and make the proceeding on-going books as Batman shining as the example of heroism, opposite to the current universe. But this universe is ground for new characters, if more than the Flash or Green Arrow legacy was continued it would be too much.
Man I was all hyped up thinking it was going to be a return to the show batman beyond but now I'm just mildly interested.I feel the same way.
Batman Beyond always felt like a continuation of Batman: The Animated Series, which very, very rarely concerned itself with other DC universe characters - and I liked it that way. The series felt far more grounded than it would have if there were constant cameos from space aliens and interdimensional ghosts. Watching Batman TAS, you get the impression that Batman is one of a kind; the only costumed crime-fighter in the world. I guess that won't be the case in the comics, though. Which is kind of a shame from my perspective, because keeping track of a whole universe is daunting for writers and fans alike, I feel.
I wanna know what happened to Batman Inc. as far as Batman Beyound timeline. Apparently it doesnt last. That isn't really a bad thing.Other future stories have shown hints at a possible continuation of the Inc. concept (even before it actually happened in the current Bat-books), like Batman #666.
so is this now the new "all star" line from DC? the "beyond" label? i would love to see them do this more than the all star line. the all star line screamed "marvel ultimate" with bad execution. the beyond comics could introduce new characters into a new world. heck, for all we know, the legion of super heroes could have began or had slight origins during the beyond era. bring it. ill buy it.
@xerox-kitty said:Its more like marvels 2099It is surprising that DC hasn't already mined this little gold vein. They could have had Justice League Beyond, Teen Titans Beyond, Young Justice Beyond, Birds of Prey Beyond... Arkham Beyond?I dunno. That's like asking DC to create their version of Marvel's Ultimate imprint and we all know how many half-baked stories they churned out to keep that going :/
As much as i love Batman Beyond, i think that creating more "Beyond" titles would ruin it. the Beyond time line is ment to be set in a not so idstant future where even we are unaware of whats really going on (hero wise). So it adds more mystery to this future world haveing only one or two beyond titles exploring this world and shoing us slowly whats hppend to it.
I'm pretty sure your lanterns are retired, at least most of them are. In a way you could sort of refer to Kingdom Come for the possible preoccupations to the older heroes in the DC universe. Of Course with Magog's death in Generation Lost Kingdom Come is no longer in continuity. I would like to know what happened to the Speedsters and Wonder Woman myself. My guess though is that WW returned to Themyscira while the speedsters were absorbed into the speed force. That be my guess.
A Beyond line would be perfectly fine as long as they don't make it too big. I don't see much reason to add anything else right now other than a JLU Beyond and the upcoming Superman Beyond. Really its somewhat of a moot point seeing that the Superman Beyond #0 is only testing the waters. Its best to wait and see how that does before wondering if a Beyond line would be a good idea. Personally though, I would love to see one as love the universe and am curious to see what old and new heroes/villains are running around outside of Gotham.
"What happened to Wonder Woman, the Flash, Superboy, Martian Manhunter, Supergirl, the Teen Titans and all their villains? "
"Is Gorilla Grodd still alive? Has Deathstroke managed to elude the grim reaper? "
Batman Beyond is based on the DCAU. Even this current version with mainstream elements it adds is still supposed to be based more off the DCAU than DCU. Wonder Woman is still around though we never saw her due to whatever embargo was on her in the cartoons. Supergirl left to join the Legion in the future. Superboy never existed though they could always retcon him in considering how many years later the universe occurs. A good chunk of villains died when Darkseid came back to life at the end of Justice League Unlimited. Gorilla Grodd is dead, ejected into the vacuum of space right before Darkseid comes back. Due to an episode of Static we know the Titans existed though we never saw them. Don't know if Deathstroke ever existed at all since he was never in any show.
I'm sorry but the whole concept of dystopian future precludes the existance of other heros.The whole thing about Batman Beyond is not to replicate the samo-samo nonsense that is killing the DCU.The fact that the current mini even lowered expectations by including Two Face, Mad Hatter,or Hush much less any reference to a JLA or Amazon in the mini or animated movie is disappointing as hell to me.This is why I backed off on the Beyond on going.I figured that editorial was not going to give this thing a life of it's own and would screw everything up with product placement ads for future action figures and the like.A reference to a Joker Cult was different and made sense but Beyond needs to chart it's own course and anchoring it to current continuity is a major mistake.
I couldn't agree more. There are endless possibilities for the Beyond universe even though "some people may disagree". I'll admit Superman Beyond maybe a good spinoff especially with the introduction of Apokolips returning for the future. In Batman Beyond 2011 issue 5, a character named Glen Godfrey may have a connection to Glorious Godfrey or maybe he is Glorious Godfrey and Godfrey maybe the precursor to the return of Darkseid. However, in all fairness I think DC should have just made a Justice League Beyond series with Superman returning from one of his intergalatic trips because to be honest I have seen enough Superman to last me a lifetime. I mean with Bruce, he still remains crucial to future even though his glory days are pretty much over. And by the way, has anyone noticed that Superman just takes these random trips to go find himself or explore other galaxies just for the hell of it. I mean what superhero does this. I can only assume that Lois is really comfortable with Clark's lifestyle.
As for other superheroes like the Flash, I agree a Flash Beyond series would be great to have since Flash constantly faces time travelling anomalies or chronological alterations which is brought on by rogues or heroes of the future or another ultimate crisis. In fact a Flash Beyond series could lead up to catalyst that can alter the New Earth reality with the Beyond future thus combining them. The reason why I bring up this possibility is because some users are hung up on the Kingdom Come reality or the fact that Terry will be trained by Damian according to Batman 700 or because the Beyond cartoon series has no connection to the New Earth. But realities are always being destroyed, altered and combined so why not combine New Earth with the Beyond future. Plus the Batman Beyond comic series has already introduced Hush, a New Earth character who was never mentioned or seen in any of the Batman cartoon series. To top it all off, at the end of Hush Beyond, a descendent of the Thawne family has already been introduced so a Flash Beyond series can happen.
Well wasn't there mention of an "Apokolips War" in this series??? Granted we never got to see it, unless the big final battle thingy from JLU was supposed to be that (but supposedly Ra's Al Ghul was supposed to "die" during then)... so who knows, maybe the Beyond universe is a possible future for the JLU universe and in one scenario more heroe died fighting Darkseid???
Granted, who knows what was originally meant to happen after Luthor and Darkseid disappeared... *shrugs*
i'm with you Gman I'm totally ready for something new in the superhero verse of DC (Marvel too somewhat). The stories are being rinsed and recycled with retcons, parallel universes, jumping back and forth through time to create altered timelines. I want something solid ya know. We see an older Superman, but no Lois or Superboy. We know Green Lantern (John) and Hawkgirl had a kid and they most likely died in that war. I find it funny that Batman is the only known survivor of events (probably flees to the cave with things get bad). Anywho I say scrap the present day DC and focus on the Beyond DC storyline for a few years...take a chance people.
Wonder Woman was mentioned a couple of times in the animation, once in the Static Shock crossover episode (Cobra asked to the warden about "the amazon") and once in the "Once and Future Thing" were she was listed among the victims when Cronos blasted the Watchtower.As a general rule I love legacy settings so I'm very interested to see more of the Beyond continuity.i agree
i'm with you Gman I'm totally ready for something new in the superhero verse of DC (Marvel too somewhat). The stories are being rinsed and recycled with retcons, parallel universes, jumping back and forth through time to create altered timelines. I want something solid ya know. We see an older Superman, but no Lois or Superboy. We know Green Lantern (John) and Hawkgirl had a kid and they most likely died in that war. I find it funny that Batman is the only known survivor of events (probably flees to the cave with things get bad). Anywho I say scrap the present day DC and focus on the Beyond DC storyline for a few years...take a chance people.1. Lois died (In Superman/Batman Annual we saw her grave). And Superboy probably didn't even exist in DCAU (Bizarro and Galatea were the only clones of Kryptonians).
2. Don't insult Batman that he "fleed". He probably survived because he was a man with a contigency plan.
i'm with you Gman I'm totally ready for something new in the superhero verse of DC (Marvel too somewhat). The stories are being rinsed and recycled with retcons, parallel universes, jumping back and forth through time to create altered timelines. I want something solid ya know. We see an older Superman, but no Lois or Superboy. We know Green Lantern (John) and Hawkgirl had a kid and they most likely died in that war. I find it funny that Batman is the only known survivor of events (probably flees to the cave with things get bad). Anywho I say scrap the present day DC and focus on the Beyond DC storyline for a few years...take a chance people.Batman "fleed to his cave" because he became an old man with a heart condition that forced him to use a gun to frighten off a thug beating him to death, you nimrod. Talk about missing a crucial plot point.
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