Civil War: Who is Crossbones?

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Posted by inferiorego (25737 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America: Civil Waris coming to theaters on May 6, and the film will be revolving around the well-established characters of the Marvel cinematic universe. One of the characters making an appearance in the film is the villainous Crossbones, most noted as one of the characters involved in the death of Steve Rogers in the 2006 comic series, Captain America. Who is Crossbones though? From what we know, how does the theatrical version differ from his comic book counterpart?

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Frank Grillo plays Crossbones, who you may remember as Brock Rumlow from Captain America: Winter Soldier. In that film, Rumlow is a S.H.I.E.L.D. agent who was secretly working for Hydra. When the tide turned and Hydra revealed themselves, Rumlow was one of the top men, fighting the battle on the ground. He was inside the Triskelion building when a Helicarrier crashed into it at the end of the film. However, he was pulled out, alive, with burns and injuries to his face and body. Now, he's back but in a very different costume.

Brock Rumlow, also known as Crossbones, had a very different origin in the comic book. He was never a part of S.H.I.E.L.D. nor was he a direct member of Hydra, but he was affiliated with one of their off-shoot groups. He was a leader of a small gang in New York, who idolized Red Skull and everything he did (Red Skull cheated death a lot in the comics at the point). Rumlow joined a school for criminals run by the infamous Taskmaster. After training and a few fights, Red Skull sees the potential in him and makes Rumlow his personal bodyguard, giving him the name Crossbones.

Crossbones' biggest moment came from a post-Civil War comic: Captain America #25. Crossbones fired off one of the shots that ended up killing Steve Rogers. This was all a part of a larger plan by Red Skull, but Crossbones' mind had been erased, so not even Charles Xavier could get any information out of him.

After those events, Crossbones, who was normally accompanied by his girlfriend Sin (Red Skull's daughter), found himself involved in minor plots here and there but he hasn't had the same impact on the Marvel universe since.

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There is obviously a big difference in the look between the two characters. The outfits are similar: Both have a mercenary look to them and the Crossbones logo is on the character's chest in the film version. In addition, the film version has these metal contraptions over his fists, as seen in the picture at the top of the page. We know these are removable as there have been shots of the character without them on. This will help Crossbones in hand-to-hand combat and add an extra punch while fighting Captain America.

However, the big difference, from what we've seen in the trailers, is that it seems that Crossbones either has his own group or is part of a group of mercenaries. Take a look at a screencap from the first trailer.

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In the background, walking with his gun at his side, is Crossbones. He appears with these other gunmen, but he's always behind all of them. This leads us to believe that he's most likely in charge of this mercenary group, but the question remains: "Are they affiliated with either Hydra or Captain America's supposed dead foe, Red Skull?" Considering that Baron Zemo is also a part of this film, Crossbones could be teamed up with him as well. It seems like Marvel has taken the same liberties with this character as they have with everyone else. They took a comic book character who was a little over-the-top and grounded him for the big screen.

We'll have to wait until May 6 to find out more when Captain America: Civil War comes to theaters. Want to know more about the film? Check out GameSpot's review.

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#1 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

What? You have to wait to the 6th? I just came from it... nuts, going to be a while before a proper argument can be had :(

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#2 Edited by deadpool25mm (864 posts) - - Show Bio

Guys... Civil war is amazing!!!!

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#3 Posted by MAZAHS117 (13130 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: You lucky dawg!

Without getting to spoilery, were Crossbones and the rest of the villians any good?

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#4 Posted by lordraiden (9664 posts) - - Show Bio

seeing it on Sunday, can't wait.

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#5 Posted by Hardhat (106 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: You lucky dawg!

Without getting to spoilery, were Crossbones and the rest of the villians any good?

Watched it last night. Crossbones role was pretty minor :( Zemo, on the other hand, is a major villain.

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#6 Posted by D9000 (1637 posts) - - Show Bio

Ohhhh, very interesting. But these forums are gonna get dicey for people who want to avoid Civil War spoilers I think. Gotta be on my toes for the next few weeks.

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#7 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: You lucky dawg!

Without getting to spoilery, were Crossbones and the rest of the villians any good?

In all fairness it follows the Marvel formula and makes the actual bad guys more of a third wheel to leave more time to focus on the heroes. In Crossbones case... he's kinda stuck with the role Strucker had in AoU.

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#8 Posted by RavenVice01 (4512 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: baron zemo wasn't much of a combative foe just a manipulator. Plus no Red Hulk which sucked.

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#9 Edited by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@ravenvice01: In all fairness, if you wanted Red Hulk you probably needed to introduce MODOK... and thats in the word of Tim Roth's Blonsky: "... a new level of weird."

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#10 Posted by RavenVice01 (4512 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: MODOK could hav been introduced in Winter Soldier as Zola's algorithm. Wasted opportunity. Red hulk could still be Surtur's avatar in thor ragnarok if done right

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#11 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@ravenvice01: Sadlly I kinda think they explained the algorithm too well for it to veer off into a seperate entity of its own. Sure it would hit what MODOK stands for quite well, but the comic character has moved far beyond that definition long ago.

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#12 Edited by RavenVice01 (4512 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: RDJ recently brought up again his interest in doing an Iron Man 4 again. I wonder if this next movie should be crammed with Iron Man rogues to make better than the last three. What do u think? The real Mandarin is still out there.

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#13 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

@ravenvice01: If there will be a 4th IM movie, I really, really hope we get the fun Tony back, this post-Avengers PTSD inflicted version just isn't as amusing when he also turns out to be a massive jerk. and yeah... would the real Mandaring please step up... and not be replaced with a whiny geek :(

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#14 Posted by RavenVice01 (4512 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: The whole PTSD version of Tony is simply his growth as character. Tony can be fun at any party and he can be serious jerk when he needs to be. I started a poll regarding Iron Man 4. Feel free to check it out. Do u wanna follow each other?

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#15 Posted by comicbookfan93 (516 posts) - - Show Bio

@hardhat: no spoilers as I'm seeing it tonight but I heard zemo's role is very small and could be removed entirely without really changing anything?

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#16 Posted by Hardhat (106 posts) - - Show Bio

@hardhat: no spoilers as I'm seeing it tonight but I heard zemo's role is very small and could be removed entirely without really changing anything?

You've probably seen it already since your comment was posted 12 hours ago but just in case, Zemo has a pretty big role in the film.

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@outside_85: You lucky dawg!

Without getting to spoilery, were Crossbones and the rest of the villians any good?

In all fairness it follows the Marvel formula and makes the actual bad guys more of a third wheel to leave more time to focus on the heroes. In Crossbones case... he's kinda stuck with the role Strucker had in AoU.

A shame :(

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#17 Posted by deactivated-5c1d15b8899b0 (11360 posts) - - Show Bio

Crossbones dies at the beginning of the movie because of his new suit

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@comicbookfan93 said:

@hardhat: no spoilers as I'm seeing it tonight but I heard zemo's role is very small and could be removed entirely without really changing anything?

You've probably seen it already since your comment was posted 12 hours ago but just in case, Zemo has a pretty big role in the film.

@outside_85 said:
@mazahs117 said:

@outside_85: You lucky dawg!

Without getting to spoilery, were Crossbones and the rest of the villians any good?

In all fairness it follows the Marvel formula and makes the actual bad guys more of a third wheel to leave more time to focus on the heroes. In Crossbones case... he's kinda stuck with the role Strucker had in AoU.

A shame :(

Zemo's role in the movie is very similar to Lex Luthor, it only appears four times in the movie and not fight directly against any of heroes

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#18 Posted by deactivated-5c1d15b8899b0 (11360 posts) - - Show Bio

@outside_85: You lucky dawg!

Without getting to spoilery, were Crossbones and the rest of the villians any good?

No......really!! I watched the movie twice this week

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#19 Posted by Hardhat (106 posts) - - Show Bio

Crossbones dies at the beginning of the movie because of his new suit

@hardhat said:
@comicbookfan93 said:

@hardhat: no spoilers as I'm seeing it tonight but I heard zemo's role is very small and could be removed entirely without really changing anything?

You've probably seen it already since your comment was posted 12 hours ago but just in case, Zemo has a pretty big role in the film.

@outside_85 said:
@mazahs117 said:

@outside_85: You lucky dawg!

Without getting to spoilery, were Crossbones and the rest of the villians any good?

In all fairness it follows the Marvel formula and makes the actual bad guys more of a third wheel to leave more time to focus on the heroes. In Crossbones case... he's kinda stuck with the role Strucker had in AoU.

A shame :(

Zemo's role in the movie is very similar to Lex Luthor, it only appears four times in the movie and not fight directly against any of heroes

That's a good comparison since they're both responsible for the fight.

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#20 Edited by LeoDaPolice (5 posts) - - Show Bio
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Is crossbones?:

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#21 Posted by Bad_People (205 posts) - - Show Bio

The same guy who was crossbones in Winter Soldier I would guess.

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#22 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (9502 posts) - - Show Bio

The movie was epic.

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