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    Carnage is the offspring of the alien symbiote Venom. It bonded with the crazed serial killer, Cletus Kasady, thus creating one of Spider-Man's most murderous, brutal, and lethal adversaries.

    Cletus Kasady RETURNS!

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    #1  Edited By KasadyCarnage

    That's right other Carnage fans! The TRUE Carnage is back. What are your thoughts?
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    #2  Edited By Herbert West

    FINALLY!

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    #3  Edited By Ruvik_

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    #4  Edited By InnerVenom123

    Must buy Carnage 3.....

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    #5  Edited By KasadyCarnage

    Yes, you must. DO IT! DO IT NOW! AULUAGH!
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    #6  Edited By nefarious

    Nice.

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    #7  Edited By allwalledup

    yessss!!!! i knew they would bring him back in this series now if eddie brock would just become venom again.

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    #8  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @allwalledup:
    He won't. Flash Thompson is Venom now
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    @allwalledup said:
    " yessss!!!! i knew they would bring him back in this series now if eddie brock would just become venom again. "
    no mac should be venom
     
    am i the only one who is confused how cletus survived this:

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    #10  Edited By xerox_kitty
    @KasadyCarnage said:
    " That's right other Carnage fans! The TRUE Carnage is back. What are your thoughts? "
    Source?
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    #11  Edited By GrandSymbiote94
       " @KasadyCarnage said:
    Source? "
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    #12  Edited By allwalledup
    @KasadyCarnage: oh, i knew that. what im saying is. they shouldn't screw  up characters that shouldn't be changed. oh well at least we have scorpion and carnage back.
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    #13  Edited By allwalledup
    @Violet-Eyed Dragon:  you think mac should be venom?? i don't when mac was venom all he did was rob banks and eat people and sleep with whores. your typical villain. when Eddie Brock was venom  he wasn't out to do any of that. he wanted one thing to kill spider-man. he had a special hate for spiderman and that's why he was such a hit villain...and now venom is flash Thompson...i wish they would just stop.
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    #14  Edited By Dracade102

    This ought to be interesting...

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    #15  Edited By joshmightbe
    @Violet-Eyed Dragon: Its Marvel where death means nothing
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    #16  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @xerox-kitty:
    The source is Carnage issue #3
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    #17  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @Violet-Eyed Dragon:
    The symbiote almost starved to death trying to keep Cletus alive. That dude who gave that chick a robot arm also gave Kasady robot legs.
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    @KasadyCarnage said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon: The symbiote almost starved to death trying to keep Cletus alive. That dude who gave that chick a robot arm also gave Kasady robot legs. "
    wait, if carnage is able to do stuff like that why hasnt he eaten peter parker's face off and then strangled iron man.   
    @joshmightbe said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon: Its Marvel where death means nothing "
    yeah but this one was a particularly big stretch.
    and im not wild about carnage coming back because it hurts the evil-venom style and makes venom an anti-hero.  if venom is an anti-hero, people wont want eddie brock as antivenom.  -
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    @allwalledup said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon:  you think mac should be venom?? i don't when mac was venom all he did was rob banks and eat people and sleep with whores. your typical villain. when Eddie Brock was venom  he wasn't out to do any of that. he wanted one thing to kill spider-man. he had a special hate for spiderman and that's why he was such a hit villain...and now venom is flash Thompson...i wish they would just stop. "
    the thing is a guy like eddie couldnt stay that kinda anti-hero forever.  he either had to decide he hated venom too much to keep, or he had to go all crazy.  its in the nature of the venom suit.
    mac accepted the suit was going to poison him.  and he was ok with it.  thats what made him cool.  they just didnt write many fights between him and spidey and so they made him a moron and he seemed bad.  but he has the most impressive venom feats.
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    #20  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @Violet-Eyed Dragon:
    I am not sure what you mean there... The symbiote can keep its host alive because over the years when Kasady had it he basically "overfed" it on hatred and all... so it became stronger. It used that to keep Cletus alive until they crashed down to Earth. As for the Anti-Venom thing... no one really cares about him... MANY people who rather have Brock as the classic Venom.
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    #21  Edited By xerox_kitty
    @KasadyCarnage said:
    " @xerox-kitty: The source is Carnage issue #3 "
    Cool.  Just as a tip for future, it makes more sense to cite your source... and if it's a spoiler to hide it under the spoiler tag (the red circle with a white exclamation mark in it)
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    YES NOW A NTI VENOM VS CARNAGE FIGHT

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    #23  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @marvelunivers said:
    "YES NOW A NTI VENOM VS CARNAGE FIGHT "

    Nah. Anti-Venom kills symbiotes. More like a Carnage vs regular Venom fight. Him yelling at Flash about how much of a terrible step father he is.
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    #24  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
    " @allwalledup said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon:  you think mac should be venom?? i don't when mac was venom all he did was rob banks and eat people and sleep with whores. your typical villain. when Eddie Brock was venom  he wasn't out to do any of that. he wanted one thing to kill spider-man. he had a special hate for spiderman and that's why he was such a hit villain...and now venom is flash Thompson...i wish they would just stop. "
    the thing is a guy like eddie couldnt stay that kinda anti-hero forever.  he either had to decide he hated venom too much to keep, or he had to go all crazy.  its in the nature of the venom suit. mac accepted the suit was going to poison him.  and he was ok with it.  thats what made him cool.  they just didnt write many fights between him and spidey and so they made him a moron and he seemed bad.  but he has the most impressive venom feats. "
    He has the stupidiest durability feats that make no sense at all and are never explained. Also he's incompetent.
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    #25  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @KasadyCarnage said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon: I am not sure what you mean there... The symbiote can keep its host alive because over the years when Kasady had it he basically "overfed" it on hatred and all... so it became stronger. It used that to keep Cletus alive until they crashed down to Earth. As for the Anti-Venom thing... no one really cares about him... MANY people who rather have Brock as the classic Venom. "
    Except that Eddie as Venom is dead and gone now; having moved on from hating Spider-man and all that. They'll get over it.
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    #26  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @InnerVenom123 said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
    " @allwalledup said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon:  you think mac should be venom?? i don't when mac was venom all he did was rob banks and eat people and sleep with whores. your typical villain. when Eddie Brock was venom  he wasn't out to do any of that. he wanted one thing to kill spider-man. he had a special hate for spiderman and that's why he was such a hit villain...and now venom is flash Thompson...i wish they would just stop. "
    the thing is a guy like eddie couldnt stay that kinda anti-hero forever.  he either had to decide he hated venom too much to keep, or he had to go all crazy.  its in the nature of the venom suit. mac accepted the suit was going to poison him.  and he was ok with it.  thats what made him cool.  they just didnt write many fights between him and spidey and so they made him a moron and he seemed bad.  but he has the most impressive venom feats. "
    He has the stupidiest durability feats that make no sense at all and are never explained. Also he's incompetent. "

    ...What?
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    #27  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @KasadyCarnage said:
    " @InnerVenom123 said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon said:
    " @allwalledup said:
    " @Violet-Eyed Dragon:  you think mac should be venom?? i don't when mac was venom all he did was rob banks and eat people and sleep with whores. your typical villain. when Eddie Brock was venom  he wasn't out to do any of that. he wanted one thing to kill spider-man. he had a special hate for spiderman and that's why he was such a hit villain...and now venom is flash Thompson...i wish they would just stop. "
    the thing is a guy like eddie couldnt stay that kinda anti-hero forever.  he either had to decide he hated venom too much to keep, or he had to go all crazy.  its in the nature of the venom suit. mac accepted the suit was going to poison him.  and he was ok with it.  thats what made him cool.  they just didnt write many fights between him and spidey and so they made him a moron and he seemed bad.  but he has the most impressive venom feats. "
    He has the stupidiest durability feats that make no sense at all and are never explained. Also he's incompetent. "
    ...What? "
    Mac for some reason was unaffected by fire and barely sound as Venom. Because the writers were idiots. 
     
    And so was Mac.
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    #28  Edited By KasadyCarnage

    @InnerVenom123:
    He was? I never read much of Gargan... I hated the idea, so yeah. But now that I hear this I hate him even more.

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    #29  Edited By Grendel
    @xerox-kitty:  I would have thought it was complete BS unless I read it either.
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    #30  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @Grendel:
    I would prove it by uploading the scene in the book... but I don't wanna crease it.
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    #31  Edited By knightofhonor100

    Wait. Where did you here about this? Is it true?
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    #32  Edited By InnerVenom123
    @KasadyCarnage said:
    " @Grendel: I would prove it by uploading the scene in the book... but I don't wanna crease it. "
    Buy a second copy.
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    #33  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @InnerVenom123:
    No way. I'm to lazy.
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    #34  Edited By Mjneal

     I adore Carnage and am so happy Cletus is back. Signed up just to post this, hope this isn't against rules, here's the page with Cletus. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Heads up for spoilers?
     

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    #35  Edited By Larkin1388

    Thank God

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    #36  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @Mjneal said:
    " I adore Carnage and am so happy Cletus is back. Signed up just to post this, hope this isn't against rules, here's the page with Cletus. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Heads up for spoilers?
     
     
     
    "

    THERE WE GO! That saved me the scan. lol Thanks
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    #37  Edited By punchline

    I think all is right with spiderman. We have a new venom. I like the choice of Flash Thompson. Carnage is back. Mac is once again the scorpion. (spidermans new white costume for the new Future Foundation epic)

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    #38  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @punchline said:
    "I think all is right with spiderman. We have a new venom. I like the choice of Flash Thompson. Carnage is back. Mac is once again the scorpion. (spidermans new white costume for the new Future Foundation epic) "

    mmmyesh
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    #39  Edited By Icarusflies  Moderator
    @Mjneal said:
    "  I adore Carnage and am so happy Cletus is back. Signed up just to post this, hope this isn't against rules, here's the page with Cletus. 
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
    Heads up for spoilers?
     
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    "
    YEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AWESOME!
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    #40  Edited By KasadyCarnage

    My word is law people! Everything I say is true and must be followed! NO WORSHIP ME FOR BRINGING SUCH GOOD NEWS!
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    #41  Edited By KasadyCarnage

    Just wanted to add this to support my theory on Cletus being Carnage. Notice how in the picture of Cletus up there, he has robot legs... in this picture if you look at Carnage's right leg closely... you will see his robot leg showing.
    Cletus Kasady Carnage in the last issue of the Carnage miniseries
    Cletus Kasady Carnage in the last issue of the Carnage miniseries
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    #42  Edited By Mjneal

    Hot dang! Glad to see that.

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    #43  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @Mjneal:
    Mmmyesh. Me too.
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    #44  Edited By CATPANEXE

    I hope it sticks. Im tired of seeing characters developed and swept under the rug.
    speaking of development, ive been fairly happy with the miniseries actually expanding
    on the afterwords of the Maximum Carnage story. I felt most of them, Carnage especially
    lacked significantly continuous character development in their years.

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    #45  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @CATPANEXE:
    I agree. And with the characters that are in this comic... it may be possible to see another Maximum Carnage. Ya got Cletus, Shriek, and for some reason Doppleganger... I'm kinda curious on how he just randomly came back and would like to know why he seems like he can't die... perhaps it has something to do with Shriek... not sure.
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    #46  Edited By Deadknight

    Kind of interesting how both Flash Thompson, the new Venom, and Cletus are missing their legs now.  
    Cletus obviously has it to a more extreme standard, but it figures that a psychopath like Cletus manages to actually get an entire robotic lower torso, whereas an honored soldier like Flash wasn't able to get anything to replace what he'd lost of his legs until the Venom suit was given to him. I feel as if that's some sort of cruel irony or something...
    Why was it necessary to give Cletus fully functioning legs anyway? Wouldn't it have been safer to simply hook a psycho like him up to a stationary life support system?

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    #47  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @Deadknight said:
    "Kind of interesting how both Flash Thompson, the new Venom, and Cletus are missing their legs now.  Cletus obviously has it to a more extreme standard, but it figures that a psychopath like Cletus manages to actually get an entire robotic lower torso, whereas an honored soldier like Flash wasn't able to get anything to replace what he'd lost of his legs until the Venom suit was given to him. I feel as if that's some sort of cruel irony or something...Why was it necessary to give Cletus fully functioning legs anyway? Wouldn't it have been safer to simply hook a psycho like him up to a stationary life support system? "

    Because he would have died other wise. The dude (his name escapes me all the time) gave him legs and kept him alive because he said and I quote "I couldn't just let  him die... I'm not a monster". Funny thing is... Cletus is
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    #48  Edited By Deadknight
    @KasadyCarnage:
    What I meant was why it was necessary to give him LEGS. They could've simply hooked Cletus up to some stationary setup that allowed him the basic functions that would be needed to keep him alive, without allowing his psychopathic self the ability to walk as he pleased. 
    I'm no doctor, but it seems that to keep him from dying, they simply needed some form of life support and not legs. What they did with Cletus is like giving an axe murderer a new arm after it was hacked off to keep him from killing people. 
    Basically, if you're going to keep a monster alive, why would you give it mobility?
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    #49  Edited By KasadyCarnage
    @Deadknight said:

    "@KasadyCarnage: What I meant was why it was necessary to give him LEGS. They could've simply hooked Cletus up to some stationary setup that allowed him the basic functions that would be needed to keep him alive, without allowing his psychopathic self the ability to walk as he pleased. I'm no doctor, but it seems that to keep him from dying, they simply needed some form of life support and not legs. What they did with Cletus is like giving an axe murderer a new arm after it was hacked off to keep him from killing people. Basically, if you're going to keep a monster alive, why would you give it mobility? "


    Maybe he was a lab rat for his new biomechanical technology. It may never have been to keep him alive, but simply as a guinea pig    
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    #50  Edited By Deadknight
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    I suppose that's possible.

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