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Probably because it is an action flick.
The set pieces were a few too many an felt too dragged on at certain instances. They could have used that time to further develop the plot.
WS is one of the best Marvel films to date, either my personal first or second favorite depending on my mood. One of the many other Marvel films not measuring up to one of it's best isn't a legitimate failing of the film. It can be excellent even without being exactly on par with WS.
This thread is about my disappointment with the movie. I'm hearing all this buzz about how it far outclasses Winter Soldier and is even better than Dark Knight, and honestly, I expected it to be.
However, when it was not, it disappointed me. I never said it was bad, just that it could have been better.
Except they didn't release them. Steve was in fact going to sign and work with Tony until he heard about how they were treating Wanda, when she hadn't even said 'no' explicitly, she was merely on the fence about it and they had her on house arrest, and what they were going to do to Bucky, no trial and no lawyer come on even the worst of war criminals have gotten at least that much. The conflict had a point, it just apparently went over your head.
Steve did break the imprisoned Avengers out of jail. The movie had almost no ramifications (except for Rhodey, who I really feel bad for). Tony and Cap seem to be back on the same page, and based off of upcoming films AND the ending of Civil War, the Avengers will be free and no longer criminals. I admit, this is pure speculation on my part, but everything that happened towards the end of the film, along with future events in the MCU seems to point to that. I HIGHLY doubt the guys at Marvel are going to keep half the Avengers in jail.
The conflict was not because of the Sokovia accords. Do you really believe Tony and gang fought Cap and gang because Cap wouldn't sign it? What was he going to do when he defeated and captured him? Force him to?
The conflict was over the fact that Steve was harboring a fugitive. You could have removed the Sokovia accords from the film, still have a terrorist attack from Zemo, and the film would be the same, - Black Panther.
Steve was harboring a fugitive, who, to his knowledge, killed a few dozen people, and he doesn't expect Tony to be a little upset? For God's sake, if Cap would have just sat down with Tony and explained the entire situation, why he believes Bucky wasn't under his own will (which would have been discovered sooner or later with an investigation), and the situation with Tony's parents, NONE of it would have happened. But instead Steve decides to act like a 13 year old boy who "just found his first love" and kept to himself. I understand that the people over the Avengers wanted Winter Soldier dead, but Cap didn't even ATTEMPT to explain what the hell was going on.
Lastly, people in power may have WANTED him dead, but they couldn't have just killed him without trial or investigation. That's illegal. Shoot, if that was the case, they would have killed him when they had him captive. If they're intentions were to TRULY kill him, there would have been NO reason to keep him alive. Why do you think they were giving him a psychiatric evaluation.
Either the heads at shield have crap memory or their threat to kill them was empty.
Wanda agreed with Steve, she changed her mind after they placed her on house arrest. Clint agreed because he saw how they were treating Wanda. Widow changed sides partway through. Falcon's moral compass pretty much always aligns with Steve's so of course he's going to side with him, that's also why they are such close friends. Bucky sided with him because the people that Iron Man was answering to wanted to execute him with no trial and no representation whatsoever.
Yeah, you got me there. Completely forgot some of the team member's reasoning.
However, as a whole (CERTAIN ASPECTS of the plot being underdeveloped, set pieces that were drawn on a little too long[I'm not talking about the important ones like the airport battle or the final battle, I'm talking minor ones like when Steven and Bucky were fighting the Shield agents, the Highway chase, or even the beginning scene. Those didn't need to be 10-15 minutes. They took up time for no reason], Cap's mind boggling stupidity, the forced humor that took away from the suspense and tension, and weird tonal shifts [there were other problems, but they're really minor and irrelevant, and don't take away from the film's quality much at all]), the film wasn't as good as I EXPECTED it to be.
Still my 7th favorite CBM.
Still my 2nd favorite MCU film.
Still my 3rd favorite Marvel film.
I just expected a little more.
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