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    T'Challa is the Black Panther, king of Wakanda, one of the most technologically advanced nations on Earth. He is among the top intellects and martial artists of the world, a veteran Avenger, and a member of the Illuminati. Using his powers and abilities, he has pledged his fortune, powers, and life to the service of all mankind.

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    #101  Edited By xybernauts

    Wow, can't believe this thread got so long. I guess that's what happens with racially charged threads. lol  

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    #102  Edited By Chaos Burn
    @xybernauts said:
    " Wow, can't believe this thread got so long. I guess that's what happens with racially charged threads. lol   "
    actually we've been debating melanism in large cat species
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    #103  Edited By Enigman
    @xybernauts said:
    " Wow, can't believe this thread got so long. I guess that's what happens with racially charged threads. lol   "
    We were not discussing race as there is only one human race. The bulk of the conversations was with myself ans static shock over what I believe to be a strategic error on the writers part to arm himself and some of his soldiers with spears and shields. 
     
    I believe they should be armed as per the Black Panther Animated series.
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    #104  Edited By supravaider
    @bigalow: American comic books, or at least the ones that count, are metaphors for American History and American Cinema. The Platinum Age, dealt with cowboy and detectives because that was popular for kids at this time in American Cinema. Then came Hitler and his Holocaust of the Jews, so two Jewish teenagers made Superman...ok this is going too long so let me break it down real simple and chronologically: Superman comes from Jewish oppression, Wonder Woman comes from female civil rights, Batman comes from Bram Stroker's: Dracula, Captain America also stems from America fighting Nazi's. Then the Great Depression happens and all of a sudden it is the '60. 60's characters are based off of three things: American science (Fantastic Four(space travel) The Incredible Hulk(the Atom Bomb)), Psychedelia (Doctor Strange and just about everything Kirby and Steranko did) and Civil Right (X-Men, Black Panther and every black character with the first name black). Because black people were hated due of the melanin in their skin, (yeah sounds stupid) black people embraced their blackness leading to common phrases "Black is Beautiful" "I'm Black and proud".  Black Panther is the original black comic book character that stood for Black People were as every other character at that time meant nothing but blacksploitation films and were given the first name "Black". Basically, Black Panther is a black version of Wonder Woman, from a civil rights stand point. Wonder Woman's powers were taken away and she was made a average women with Karate skills, in the 60 or 70, and women's rights groups were outraged. I can imagine if you made Black Panther a average dude, history would repeat itself.   
    And to finish the history lesson, 80's early 90's characters were all about violent gunslingers like Punisher and Cable inspired by films like Rambo and Terminator. Also, the thriving American economy of the 80's, gave us evil business men that inspired The King Pen and turned Lex Luthor from a mad-scientist, to a businessman.  
    Now that comics are inspiring films, and not the other way around, I'm cautious to see what happens
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    #105  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    It would be stupid for dc to have a regular series called catman,when they already have a popular comic called batman,anyway,the catman charecter is more relatable than T'Challa and in time his importance as a charecter might grow if handled properly by writers,he has potential, wheras black panther hasn't gotten over in 44 years so he obviously won't ever be getting over with readers,at least not as he is.
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    #106  Edited By bigalow
    @supravaider:
    Batman dousn't come from dracula,he comes from zorro and the shadow,also no would really be upset if black panther was some dude,if he were some dude than more black people and people in general could relate to him,the average black american cannot relate to and african tribal stuff.
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    #107  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock: It would be stupid for dc to have a regular series called catman,when they already have a popular comic called batman,anyway,the catman charecter is more relatable than T'Challa and in time his importance as a charecter might grow if handled properly by writers,he has potential, wheras black panther hasn't gotten over in 44 years so he obviously won't ever be getting over with readers,at least not as he is. "

    Trying to justify the fact that Catman doesn't have a book, while T'Challa has had several and was in several issues with the Avengers doesn't help your case much. The fact that you think T'Challa isn't a character that people can relate to is your opinion, anyway. Several Black Panther fans understand the character well, so your inability to do so and/or relate to him doesn't necessarily translate to everyone else. Catman has been in publication since 1963. That's 47 years and not even close to over a hundred appearances. Not even a limited series in his name. If it has to take up to 50 years to see the potential of a character grow and we haven't seen it by now, we may never, ever see it. T'Challa's potential has already shown itself, and at the same time, he's had more than Catman has ever had, and will ever have. While Black Panther volumes weren't consistent or didn't last over hundreds of issues per volume, his individual books were still being bought (even if the sales weren't that great, in comparison to other titles featuring flagship characters). No one can buy a Catman book because he doesn't have one.

    Saying that it would be stupid to give Catman his own series because Batman (a flagship character who's mass appeal exceeds Catman and Black Panther, combined) is already a popular series just tells me that you don't think Catman is worthy of or marketable enough for his own book. Thus, it defeats the purpose of defending Catman, in general. If you think more people can relate to the guy, why shouldn't he have his own book? 
     

    @bigalow

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    " if he were some dude than more black people and people in general could relate to him,the average black american cannot relate to and african tribal stuff. "

    If this is the case, how come Black Lightning (an average Black American superhero) isn't as popular as Black Panther (an above-average African superhero and king)? How come Storm (an above-average African superheroine and queen) is more popular than say... Misty Knight (an average Black American superheroine)?
     
    Somebody has to be reading and paying money for books that are showcasing these African-oriented characters, right? So, tell me. If people can't relate to them, where are all these fans coming from? Someone has to be reading them, correct?
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    #108  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    Storm and blaclbolt don't have there own solo series,and when i talik of catman,i'm talking of his more recent re vamped charecter as he apperes in secret six,origionally he was just a d-list villian but recently his charecter has been revived,and the fact that he is a guy people can relate does make him better than black panther,face it black panther will always be cancelled and never be popular so long as the readers cannot relate.
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    #109  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:
    " @Static Shock: Storm and blaclbolt don't have there own solo series
    Storm has been a recurring X-Men character, and has been in thousands of comics. She doesn't need her own ongoing series (even though she's had some mini series here and there). Black Bolt has had his own series. It's called the Inhumans, and he's the lead character.
     
    @bigalow said:
    "  when i talik of catman,i'm talking of his more recent re vamped charecter as he apperes in secret six,origionally he was just a d-list villian but recently his charecter has been revived
    It's the same Catman, and it's not a question of whether or not he's been revamped. The identity of the character hasn't changed, either. The same D-list villain from back in the day is the same D-list anti-hero/villain that he is now.
     
    Black Panther is an established B-list superhero. Catman needs to get his weight up.
     
    @bigalow said:
    " and the fact that he is a guy people can relate does make him better than black panther
    I'm not sure how that's possible, judging by the fact that Black Panther has a larger fanbase than Catman. People are obviously able to relate to him, as a result, but you don't get it. The fact that you think Catman is better than Black Panther is your opinion, and I can respect that. Saying that people don't relate to him is something entirely different.
     
    @bigalow said:
    "face it black panther will always be cancelled"
    While Catman will never sell a comic book simply because he doesn't have one of his own, and isn't marketable enough to have his own series. It's not that difficult to understand, and I think having a series (even though it gets canceled) is better than not having one at all.
     
    @bigalow said:
    "and never be popular so long as the readers cannot relate. "
    That's the problem. Black Panther is already popular, more so than Catman. That's the undeniable fact that you constantly overlook. if he wasn't popular, people wouldn't buy his books or he would never have his own books, and he would never have so many appearances. Another thing that you are overlooking.
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    #110  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock: 
     As i said earlier it would be kinda stupid for dc to have both a batman and catman series,but anyway black panther is a d-lister,his titles would have lasted longer if he was a b-lister and we'll see how they continue to develop catman,he will probubly one day have a mini series and secret six is doing alright,also they have never tried to give catman a solo series so we don't know how well it would do ,wheras marvel have been attemting  black panther comics for 44 years and have always failed as the charecter dousn't capture the reader imagination.
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    #111  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    Also,black panther is not popular,otherwise he would't have been getting cancelled for 44 years,despite the repeated attempts of marvel to get his charecter over ,wheras the re-vamped catman has only been around for a few years and i don't know to what extant there going to push his charecter,but if they try and fail repeatadly to get his charecter over for longer than 44 years,than you might have an argument.
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    #112  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock:  As i said earlier it would be kinda stupid for dc to have both a batman and catman series

    Batman having a series has nothing to do with Catman (they are two different characters), so I'm not sure why you think it's stupid.
     

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    ",but anyway black panther is a d-lister,his titles would have lasted longer if he was a b-lister

    If he was a D-lister, he wouldn't have an ongoing, period. Yet, he's had several.
     

    @bigalow

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    "wheras marvel have been attemting  black panther comics for 44 years and have always failed as the charecter dousn't capture the reader imagination. "

    How do you know that Black Panther doesn't capture every readers' imagination? Where's your proof? 
     
    A series getting canceled is the result a lot of things. Not just what you stated. The character has captured my imagination, and a lot of other Black Panther fans. You have absolutely no idea why he gets canceled.
     

    @bigalow

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    " Also,black panther is not popular

    Yes, he is, and more popular than Catman. If Black Panther wasn't popular, he wouldn't sell.
     

    @bigalow

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    otherwise he would't have been getting cancelled for 44 years,despite the repeated attempts of marvel to get his charecter over


    The fact that he's had several ongoings and limited series proves that he is popular. You can't dispute that. Catman has never had a book to himself, and has been around for 47 years. That's even worse than having Black Panther's series canceled.
     

    @bigalow

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    "but if they try and fail repeatadly to get his charecter over for longer than 44 years,than you might have an argument. "

    LOL. Are you reading what you're saying? DC has been pushing him for 47 years. How come he doesn't have his OWN BOOK yet? Argue that. He went from being a lackluster villain with a minuscule amount of appearances, to getting a spot on the Secret Six. Big whoop. Black Panther has been on the Avengers for over 20 years, was a recurring Fantastic Four character, has had two limited series, four ongoings, several issues in Jungle Action, several issues in Marvel Comics Presents, was a lead character in a recent Marvel event, and has had hundreds of appearances in other Marvel books. Black Panther has done more in 44 years than Catman has in 47 years. Admit it. Black Panther has sold books in his own name. Admit it. More popular character would have more appearances. Admit it. 
     
    The evidence is against you.
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    #113  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    No the evidence is against you,the fact is that marvel has been trying for 44 years to ger black panther over and it has always failed,if they try for another 44 years it will also fail.catman is a charecter that the average american can relate too,so if the writers continue to handle him right he will have greater success with fewer apperances than black panther,thats what your scared of
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    #114  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    they also haven't been pushing catman for 47 years,he made a few apperances here and there and thats it,he has been only pushed for a few years,compared to black panthers 44 year failed push.
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    #115  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:
    " @Static Shock: No the evidence is against you
    The evidence can't be against me because there's more going for Black Panther that proves his popular. You just don't want to admit that. I've said it several times. You have evidence of nothing. All you're saying is that that no one can relate to him. That is your opinion. 
     
    @bigalow said:
    ",the fact is that marvel has been trying for 44 years to ger black panther over and it has always failed,if they try for another 44 years it will also fail. "
    What exactly did they fail at with Black Panther? He's had his own book. Catman hasn't. What you fail to realize is that Black Panther sells. If he sells, people are obviously into his character. You don't work for Marvel, so you have no idea how or why he failed, if anything. Black Panther has brought Marvel money with his own titles. Catman has never done such a thing. Marvel has gained more from Black Panther than DC has with Catman. It's so obvious, and you continue to ignore that.
      
    @bigalow said:
    ".catman is a charecter that the average american can relate too,so if the writers continue to handle him right he will have greater success with fewer apperances than black panther,thats what your scared of "
    The fact that he's an average American (it's not even an issue of race or nationality) is inconsequential. Why would I be afraid of Catman having greater success with fewer appearances, when Black Panther's success already exceeds his? What is there to be afraid of? Having over 800 appearances >>>> 80 appearances, no matter how you cut it. Stop saying 'if'. It notes a hypothetical situation. You're just speculating. I'm talking about the status of both characters right now. Gail Simone isn't even a highly-respected writer, and her material is sub-par. What exactly is she doing right for him? She probably isn't doing any better than the writers before he did with his character. 
     
    @bigalow said:
    " @Static Shock: they also haven't been pushing catman for 47 years
    I stopped right here. He was created 47 years ago. DC has obviously been pushing him since then. I don't want to hear that. 
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    #116  Edited By bigalow

    If black panther were successful than his every attempt at a solo series wouldn't fail,he is not a successful charecter because his titles are always canceled due to poor sales,catman has not been pushed by writers for 47 years,in his earlier apperances he was written as a failer,but his re-vamped depiction shows him as a sucessful anti hero,he has only been getting a push from writers for a few years,wheras black panthers failed push has lasted 44 years,we'll see how long it takes to get catman over,or even if future writers and editors want to continue the catman push,if dc  tried to push catman as long as marvel has pushed black panther than he would get over,in short catman would get over in 44 years wheras black panther hasn't,catman could if given the continued right handling by writers, be a good b list or c list charecter.
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    #117  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:

    " If black panther were successful than his every attempt at a solo series wouldn't fail,he is not a successful charecter because his titles are always canceled due to poor sales

    The fact remains that Black Panther titles have made money. His name has made money. Catman hasn't made anything. In short, Black Panther has been more successful than Catman. It's an issue of money. On average, Black Panther titles sell about 20,000 copies, at least. May not be much, but still. How much has Catman sold?
     
    @bigalow said:
    " catman has not been pushed by writers for 47 years,in his earlier apperances he was written as a failer,but his re-vamped depiction shows him as a sucessful anti hero,he has only been getting a push from writers for a few years

    A character being created and written into a comic book means that he's being pushed. Period. Stalemating Batman and giving Bronze Tiger a fight while he was holding back doesn't make Catman successful. Gail Simone doesn't even know how to write, anyway.
      
    @bigalow said:
    " wheras black panthers failed push has lasted 44 years
    With over 800 appearances, and a number of them being his own titles. Catman has next to nothing and he's been around for 47 years. Revamped or not, it's still Tom Blake.
     
    @bigalow said:
    " we'll see how long it takes to get catman over,or even if future writers and editors want to continue the catman push,if dc  tried to push catman as long as marvel has pushed black panther than he would get over,in short catman would get over in 44 years wheras black panther hasn't,catman could if given the continued right handling by writers, be a good b list or c list charecter. "
    You're still saying 'if.' Speculation. Nothing else to discuss, really.
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    #118  Edited By Gylan Thomas

    Most of the early back superheroes were called black something or other.
    Black Panther
    Black Lightning
    Black Goliath
     
    Let's move on people

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    #119  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    Catman has not been as exposed as black panther so he hasn't had the chance to sell alot of comics,if catman had the exposure black panther has had he would be more successful as he is a charecter that people can relate to,
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    #120  Edited By Mr MajestiK
    @bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock: Catman has not been as exposed as black panther so he hasn't had the chance to sell alot of comics,if catman had the exposure black panther has had he would be more successful as he is a charecter that people can relate to, "

    Speak for yourself.
     
    I can't relate to Cat man in any way, size or form.
     
    The Black Panther on the other hand is a multi-layered character created by Jack Kirby who was severely mishandled after Kirby and Don McGregor's distinctive runs on the character until he was ressurected by Christopher Priest who went on to do stellar work on the character before handinding over to Reginald Hudlin after a 62 issue run.
     
    Reginal Hudlin's run though not as groundbreaking as Priest's sold quite well up until Jonathan Maberry's short lived run on the BP book which saw cancellation just before the beginning of Doomwar which was more of a deification of Doom as a character of renown as opposed to to the traditional revenge of T'Challa over the villain Doom who tried to kill him in the final issues of the BP book that Hudlin penned before handing off to Maberry.
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    #121  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock: Catman has not been as exposed as black panther so he hasn't had the chance to sell alot of comics

    Obviously. Took you long enough.
     
    @bigalow said:

    "if catman had the exposure black panther has had he would be more successful as he is a charecter that people can relate to, "

    You're still speculating, still thinking that no one can relate to the Black Panther (based on your opinion, because he's African). There's nothing more to discuss, as I said earlier.
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    #122  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    Infact secret six was a mini-series in o6,and the fans wanted a regular series so they got it,no one ever asked for more black panther comics,marvel just keeps trying. The reason it took so long to reply was because i was busy.
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    #123  Edited By bigalow
    @Mr MajestiK:
    The fact is that the average reader cannot identify with the whole african tribal thing,catman is just some dude so the reader can relate better,also black panther has no good villians,a hero is only as strong as the villian he fights,thats another weakness of the black panther comics.
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    #124  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:
    no one ever asked for more black panther comics,marvel just keeps trying.  "
    How do you know nobody asked for more Black Panther comics?
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    #125  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    If people had asked for them than they would have bought them,poor sales are the reason for black panthers cancellations.
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    #126  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock: If people had asked for them than they would have bought them "

    People have bought them. Saying that no one bought is like saying that his books have zero sales. Black Panther books, since volume 2, have sold at least 20,000 copies. It's better than nothing, and it's a shame Catman hasn't achieved those numbers. Sucks not having his own book.
     

    @bigalow

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    "poor sales are the reason for black panthers cancellations. "

    The only Black Panther book that saw cancellation was volume 4, with Shuri as the Black Panther. All other books ended because the run (the story itself) was finished and there was nothing else to write. So, there. Just because a book lasts for a certain number of issues doesn't mean that it was canceled. Some books are actually established to have a run with a certain number of issues (prior to being written), and aren't actually mean to run indefinitely like all other flagship characters do. His earlier runs started in Jungle Action #5 and ran for 20 issues in that book until the story came to an end. Then, he got his own series (Black Panther vol 1.), which ran for 15 issues and continued in Marvel Premiere after that for three issues until that story ended. Then, he had a 4-issue limited series in 1988 (it was supposed to be short), and had a short story in Marvel Comics Presents in 1989 than ran for  25 issues until the story ended. Then, a graphic novel in 1991 (Panther's Prey), volume 2 in 1998 (ran for 62 issues, and the story came to an end), and volume 3 in 2005 (ran for 41 issues, plus an annual, and it ended with the Secret Invasion).
     
    Catman has no books. Period.
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    #127  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock: 

    Not so there, ther short lived because no too many people buy them,he's not popular,if he was than he would have at least 1 ongoing series and would have wider circulation,also catman hasn't yet had a solo series,as i posted before it would seem kinda stupid for them to have both batman and catman solo series.
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    #128  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock: Not so there, ther short lived because no too many people buy them,he's not popular,if he was than he would have at least 1 ongoing series and would have wider circulation,also catman hasn't yet had a solo series,as i posted before it would seem kinda stupid for them to have both batman and catman solo series. "

    They are short-lived because they were intended to be short stories. Marvel never intended for Black Panther to have a continuous ongoing series. If he's not popular, he wouldn't have sold over 20,000 copies. He may not be as popular as people such as Batman, but he's obviously more popular than Catman is. Judging by sales, there's a level of popularity there. Add to the fact that Black Panther had an animated mini-series based on the first 6 issues of volume 3 and has been in two video games that sold millions of copies (Marvel; Ultimate Alliance, both installments). You gonna tell me he's not popular still? If not, he wouldn't have had that, either. If not, he wouldn't have been in a video game. I don't see Catman doing any better. The fact that you think it would be stupid for him to have a solo series because Batman has one (and I already said that Batman has nothing to do with Catman) doesn't make sense. Catman is an individual character, and if he was as popular as you say, he would have his own ongoing by now. Sadly, he doesn't.
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    #129  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    The way bussiness works is to make money,if black panther where popular he would have an ongoing series which marvel could contiously make money off of,but he dousn't sell and as a result he is cancelled.
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    #130  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:
    " @Static Shock: The way bussiness works is to make money
    He's been doing that, unfortunately. It isn't much, but Catman isn't marketable, anyway.
     
    @bigalow said:
    "if black panther where popular he would have an ongoing series which marvel could contiously make money off of,but he dousn't sell and as a result he is cancelled. "
    The fact that he has had an ongoing makes him popular, regardless. Saying he doesn't sell is ignorance, after I just got through saying that he's sold over 20,000 copies on average. The only title that was actually canceled was Black Panther v4.
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    #131  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    Catman is marketable,secret six must have sold well in order for them to turn it into a regular series.
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    #132  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock: Catman is marketable,secret six must have sold well in order for them to turn it into a regular series. "

    The title itself is marketable. Catman, by himself, isn't. The book isn't selling because of him (there are different characters on the team, not just him). Besides, Secret Six's numbers aren't any better than Black Panther's have been, monthly. It's been selling a little over 20,000 copies a month, and it's been ranked in the mid-90. I just checked on comichron.com. Its sales have been declining since its debut, and they will keep declining. The first issue only sold almost 32,000 copies. The first issues of Black Panther vol 2 (56,000), vol 3 (50,000), and vol 4 (46,000) all sold better than Secret Six's first issue.
     
    But, in any case, that title doesn't sell any better than Black Panther's.
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    First, I think Black Panther is a great character and if I could aford it I would buy a reagular ongoing of him. 
     
    Second (if it hasn't been brought up yet), why is Black Bolt called "Black Bolt" if he isn't black?  Or Black Flash, Black Adam, ect. 
     
    These are obviously not race related names, same could very well go for BP, they probably just made him black to go with the name.
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    #134  Edited By Lantern Prime
    @Static Shock said:
    "@bigalow said:

    " @Static Shock: Catman is marketable,secret six must have sold well in order for them to turn it into a regular series. "

    The title itself is marketable. Catman, by himself, isn't. The book isn't selling because of him (there are different characters on the team, not just him). Besides, Secret Six's numbers aren't any better than Black Panther's have been, monthly. It's been selling a little over 20,000 copies a month, and it's been ranked in the mid-90. I just checked on comichron.com. Its sales have been declining since its debut, and they will keep declining. The first issue only sold almost 32,000 copies. The first issues of Black Panther vol 2 (56,000), vol 3 (50,000), and vol 4 (46,000) all sold better than Secret Six's first issue.  But, in any case, that title doesn't sell any better than Black Panther's. "

    agreed..
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    #135  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    You do't know if catman's marketable or not,he has never had a solo series. and i don't think he will,unless his charecter becomes real popular,because it would be funny to have one series called batman and another called catman,the uneducated would think it was just some ripoff charecter.
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    #136  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow said:
    " @Static Shock: You do't know if catman's marketable or not.
    If he was, he'd obviously have his own title by now.  
     
    @bigalow said:
    " and i don't think he will
    I agree. 
     
    @bigalow said:
    "because it would be funny to have one series called batman and another called catman,the uneducated would think it was just some ripoff charecter. "
    Then, let the uneducated appeal to their own ignorance. Comic book fans know that Catman isn't in any way related to Batman. 
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    #137  Edited By bigalow
    @Static Shock:
    No he obvioulsy wouldn't,he has only been pushed for a few years and secret six continues to sell,so there is no reason why he should leave that series for a solo title,he may eventually have a solo mini series or two though.
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    #138  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @bigalow: Whatever you say, buddy. There's not much else to discuss, really.
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    #139  Edited By velle37
    @bigalow said:
    " Why did they call the black panther the black panther and make an issue out of his race? spiderman isn't called the white spiderman,also why did they make black panther an african prince?white superheroes aren't european princes,black panther should just be an average guy like spiderman who just so happens to be black,that would be a better story,that being said black panther has the best name and costume out of all the cat related superheroes(catman,wildcat.ect)though he has the worst backstory,catman has the best backstory. "

    Do you take offense to this? If so, explain further........
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    #140  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt
    @texasdeathmatch:
    no its not a good question its a stupid
     
    black panther denotes to the animal wich he gains his powers from not his race
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    #141  Edited By gravitypress

    Panther is ok but his writing has been lackluster. He doesn't bring anything new to the avengers. I never knew why he came to America to fight crime when there are ghastly things going on in Africa.

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    #142  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @gravitypress said:
     He doesn't bring anything new to the avengers.
    The same can be said for most of the Avengers characters.
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    #143  Edited By Osiris1428
    @gravitypress said:
    " Panther is ok but his writing has been lackluster... I never knew why he came to America to fight crime when there are ghastly things going on in Africa. "  
     
    If Black Panther and Storm were real, they would probably unite Africa and save it from outsiders and itself. I wish that would happen, but that is such a difficult thing to address.
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    #144  Edited By virgin4life

    same reason why they call john stewart 'the black green lantern'

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    #145  Edited By Atakumosa

    They Had a White Panther during Black Panther volume 3, because he was the first and only Anglo-Wakandan whom was the leader of wakanda's greatest task forces. He was T'Challa adopted brother.

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    #146  Edited By Static Shock  Online
    @Atakumosa said:
    They Had a White Panther during Black Panther volume 3, because he was the first and only Anglo-Wakandan whom was the leader of wakanda's greatest task forces. He was T'Challa adopted brother.
    That was Hunter. He was actually the leader of the White Wolves, a.k.a. the Hatut Zeraze. He was never considered a Panther.
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    #147  Edited By Loki9876

    a black panther is a very symbolic and beautiful animal, he's king it's part of his character like doom has his own country.

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    #148  Edited By Mega_spidey01

    black panther is a great character and his book man without fear is a great series so far. Also he's pretty badass on the avengers earth's mightiest heroes show. i can't wait for them to make a movie about black panther he has so much potential. 

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    #149  Edited By daredevil21134

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