In an iterview with MTV Geek Lodbell said that " I think what happens to Tim... Is so shocking that even i am shocked with what i got away with" so what do you all think is tim going to die? how do you feel about it? IMO i will be outraged if Tim is killed at the end of DOTF i already feel like lodbell has it out for Tim from TT #0 so i can see him killing Tim off.

He's the best candidate if that's what you're asking.

has it out for him? c'mon!! the only reason why Lobdell had to change Tim's origin is because of DC's 5 year time line...he had to make sense of there being 4 Robins during a 5 year period and now it makes a little more sense

Umm...these are the covers for teen titans 18 and 19....

So i doubt it

@DarkKnightDetective said:

He's the best candidate if that's what you're asking.

The best candidate is damian from what ive been told

@DarkKnightDetective said:

He's the best candidate if that's what you're asking.

how so bc he dosnt have a solo? I am also asking if he dosnt kill him then what else would he do to tim that is so horrible

@danhimself said:

has it out for him? c'mon!! the only reason why Lobdell had to change Tim's origin is because of DC's 5 year time line...he had to make sense of there being 4 Robins during a 5 year period and now it makes a little more sense

agreed but he didnt have to change how he became robin it was unneccasary to change his origin into one that hurts the character by saying he never found out Bruces ID by using detective skills instead he put his family at risk in order to smoke batman out

I feel like Tim's going to get Batman Beyond-ed.

@The_Tree said:

I feel like Tim's going to get Batman Beyond-ed.

Maybe on the cover of TT #16 he is holding a knife so i wonder if maybe Tim kills someone in order to save Jason and his life. that could be an act he would never forgive himself for.

@Stormbox: nah, Damian is new to the bat-family.

@havoc1201: yeah, and since having him is kind of pointless because he is a Nightwing carbon copy.

@The_Tree: What do you mean, like he is secretly Bruce's son?!?! If thats the case I doubt it. Damian and Tim have enough sibling rivalry.@havoc1201 said:

@DarkKnightDetective said:

He's the best candidate if that's what you're asking.

how so bc he dosnt have a solo? I am also asking if he dosnt kill him then what else would he do to tim that is so horrible

Actually no, @BatWatch actually lays it out really well why odds are in favor for Damian to die (if anyone dies at all). Damian is missing from all solicitations for both March and April (though for April he might be in one of the fold outs) and the descriptions seem to bring out reactions of what would happen if Damian died.

@DarkKnightDetective: I dont know i think they can develop him more in the new 52 make him be a great character like the red robin series i really enjoyed his transformation into his own hero i would love if they could do that in the new 52

@batshrine said:

@The_Tree: What do you mean, like he is secretly Bruce's son?!?! If thats the case I doubt it. Damian and Tim have enough sibling rivalry.

No. I'm talking about in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker when Tim's captured, tortured, implanted with a microchip, and is driven insane. Snyder's already been shown as being a big Batman Beyond fan with his incorporation of the Powers family into current continuity, so I wouldn't necessarily be surprised.

@batshrine: No, they won't kill Damian. He is Morrison's baby.

@havoc1201: Yeah me too, I remember that at some point Tim was my favorite character in the bat-family besides Batman. Maybe if they give him a solo series or a series with Dick it will happen, but for now he is a one dimension character.

@The_Tree said:

@batshrine said:

@The_Tree: What do you mean, like he is secretly Bruce's son?!?! If thats the case I doubt it. Damian and Tim have enough sibling rivalry.

No. I'm talking about in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker when Tim's captured, tortured, implanted with a microchip, and is driven insane. Snyder's already been shown as being a big Batman Beyond fan with his incorporation of the Powers family into current continuity, so I wouldn't necessarily be surprised.

Maybe but what happens to Tim Lodbell came up with and he said himself that even he was surprised he got away with it, but that is still a possibility. I think Joker will have him kill someone or maybe do something to jason seeing they are being held together

I like Tim a lot, but I really hope Damian isn't killed off. He's become one of my favourite characters.

@Selinaky said:

I like Tim a lot, but I really hope Damian isn't killed off. He's become one of my favourite characters.

i really hope they dont kill any of the family i would like it to be a secret that Bruce kept from all of them somthing bigger then the joker may or may not have gotten into the cave something that hits everyone to their core and makes them turn their back on Batman or something like that

@havoc1201: I agree, if someone is killed off unnecessarily it'll be disappointing.

here is #17 and it says something is wrong with red robin what did the joker do to him

There's two options here.

1) Alfred dies. Which would be the most predictable nonsense in the world. His eyes are clearly gone, but I say let him be the blind butler.

2) No one important dies. It's all some symbolic death nonsense where the family starts to distrust each other. Yet another obvious, boring option.

I really hope Snyder is going a different route. But I just can't conceive of any other way, so as much as I've enjoyed the ride - I'm preparing for a little bit of a letdown.

@Reignmaker said:

There's two options here. 1) Alfred dies. Which would be the most predictable nonsense in the world. His eyes are clearly gone, but I say let him be the blind butler. 2) No one important dies. It's all some symbolic death nonsense where the family starts to distrust each other. Yet another obvious, boring option. I really hope Snyder is going a different route. But I just can't conceive of any other way, so as much as I've enjoyed the ride - I'm preparing for a little bit of a letdown.

I really think that Tim is going to be forced to do something in order for him and Jason to be released and it is going to be something that he will not forgive himself for and for the rest of the family i truly think that they are all going to have to make choices or they find out something that will make them turn away from bruce. I really think Snyder is not going to dissapoint us at the end of this arc all of DC is backing him and in interviews with all the Bat writers they saw that what happens at the end of DOTF the characters will be dealing with the results for years to come.

I don't see Snyder killing off anyone except possibly Alfred. He doesn't really have the authority over other characters. Higgins has Dick, Lobdell has Jason and Tim, Tomasi has Damian.

Tim will probably be forced to do something extreme (kill perhaps) or be poisoned and have a limited amount of time remaining. The TT will find out somehow and they will cure Tim. Perhaps Raven will come in handy for either diagnosing or curing him, since I hear she is joining the team?

@r3d_rob1n: I really think that red robin is going to kill someone in order to save jason and him or he does something to jason either way it will be something that will change him.

@havoc1201: I have a hard time thinking that Tim will do something to Jason. Their relationship has been improving since the start of the New 52. I also hope it isn't something so cliche as Tim is forced to kill, besides, that wouldn't be anything too shocking for Lobdell to get away with.

@r3d_rob1n: Jason and Tim are being held together so maybe Joker does something to Tim and makes him hurt Jason, Not bc Tim hates Jason but because he is made to and it wouldnt be killing Jason bc as we see TRHO has Jason still but in one of the synopsis it says what is under the red hood so maybe Tim scars him

Dont know if they are going to kill someone, they already had someone (formerly) in the batfamily that was murdered. But if someone has to die, it has to be Damian, the little psychopathic, unlikable murderer deserves to be killed.

Get's raped....?

If Tim drake is killed off I don't think there will bee any impact since he's the most shafted member of the batfamily.

I don't think that Tim will be killed off.

I think we should be more concerned about Alfred's well-being than Tim's.

On the DC site, it says of Teen Titans #18, "Unknown to the Teen Titans, Red Robin’s condition is worsening after the events of “DEATH OF THE FAMILY.” And now Red Robin must face an even greater tragedy!

I'm guessing he's been poisoned. Maybe with some kind of slow release Joker Venom?

Maybe it'll be like you see in zombie films where one of the group gets infected and doesn't tell the others, then eventually gets taken over by the sickness and attacks the others in the group.

Red Robin vs Teen Titans story arc coming soon?

@Stormbox said:

Umm...these are the covers for teen titans 18 and 19....

So i doubt it

@DarkKnightDetective said:

He's the best candidate if that's what you're asking.

The best candidate is damian from what ive been told

the only thing i hopt they kill is his costume.

@JamesKM716 said:

Get's raped....?

I hope not

Little off topic but does anyone else notice that super boy is shooting lasers out of his eyes? Must be a reprucussion from H'el of earth.

Mental Breakdown... I think the Joker makes Tim crazy or at least tries to. Not sure how successful it would be.