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    Who is the weakest Bat-family member?

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    #1  Edited By Stronger

    I personally believe it's Barbara.

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    @Stronger: I agree with you on that, I wish she wasn't Batgirl in the New 52 as well.

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    #3  Edited By Stronger

    @Shark_Repellent_Bat_Spray said:

    @Stronger: I agree with you on that, I wish she wasn't Batgirl in the New 52 as well.

    No I love Barbara.She is my favourite famle comicbook characters,together with Catwoman.

    It's just that she gets beat up by almost every one.

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    #4  Edited By Shipster360

    Barbara definitely. I would say Catwoman, but she seems to escape so easily from situations she is outwatched. The only other one I would say would be Tim. Hes brilliant, but put him up against Dick or Jason or even Damian in a fist fight and hes done. In fact, I am pretty sure Tim has been beaten by both Jason and Damian.

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    #5  Edited By gotwillpower

    Probably Tim or Barbara. But if Harper Row counts, then probably her.

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    #6  Edited By Phaedrusgr

    @Shipster360: Tim beaten by Damian? Read Yost's Red Robin and you'll see how "weak" he is. He's an excellent fighter, not that good as Dick, but he's really really good.

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    #7  Edited By Shipster360

    @Phaedrusgr: well he was beaten by Damian in Batman and Son. Tim is still my favorite Robin. Ive always wanted to read those.

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    #8  Edited By Phaedrusgr

    @Shipster360: Nope, he wasn't! Tim wasn't fighting, Damian got him off guard. I've read Batman and Son. Anyway, if you like Tim, you must read Yost's Red Robin. His run was from 01 to 12 and you got to love the way he shows Tim. In pre52, despite the fact every single Robin had his own advantages, Tim seemed to be the most "charismatic". I'm not saying he was the best Robin. Anyway, since we're in this thread, I'll say, Barb is the weakest link.

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    #9  Edited By FatihBATMAN

    Alfred! :D

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    #10  Edited By Humanoid

    @FatihBATMAN said:

    Alfred! :D

    Alfred could take out Batgirl.

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    #11  Edited By Rumble Man

    @FatihBATMAN said:

    Alfred! :D

    Don't be dissin alfred yo

    Jason is weak, first to be killed by a villain

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    #12  Edited By Humanoid

    @Rumble Man said:

    @FatihBATMAN said:

    Alfred! :D

    Don't be dissin alfred yo

    Jason is weak, first to be killed by a villain

    He was killed by a popularity vote. I'm not sure if that's worse or better.

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    #13  Edited By Rumble Man

    @Humanoid: better :)

    nobody likes a two-bit punk

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    #14  Edited By FatihBATMAN

    Wow whats with the Aldred love here guys :D cool hehe! I like Jason man! hes a cool guy!

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    #15  Edited By FatihBATMAN

    @Humanoid said:

    He was killed by a popularity vote. I'm not sure if that's worse or better.

    And thats saying much.. hehe

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    #16  Edited By JakeN7

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    #17  Edited By the_tree

    Barbara, followed by New 52 Tim.

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    #18  Edited By John Valentine

    Babs, she can't bench for sh!t.

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    Barbara

    @FatihBATMAN said:

    Alfred! :D

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    #20  Edited By ccraft

    @Rumble Man said:

    @Humanoid: better :)

    nobody likes a two-bit punk

    @FatihBATMAN:

    Alfred is hardcore.

    As smart as Batgirl is she still is the weakest. But doesn't she beat up Nightwing in a new 52 Batgirl issue?

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    #21  Edited By havoc1201

    Babs, she is such a victim in the comics and it gets so over played i get sick of it

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    #22  Edited By graysonofgotham

    New 52 wise Tim Drake.

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    #23  Edited By FatihBATMAN

    Why that?

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    #24  Edited By FatihBATMAN

    alfred bet up batgirl in a new 52 issue?!? :O

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    #25  Edited By batshrine

    Misfit?!?! Does she count?

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    #26  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

    Babs is somehow weaker than Damian?

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    #27  Edited By consolemaster001

    Babs :p

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    #28  Edited By gettogaara

    @Vance Astro said:

    Babs is somehow weaker than Damian?

    Yes. Ignoring how much I like him as a character, Damian's skills have been sharpened since he could walk and Bruce is constantly limiting him so he can't use half of that training. She might have the edge in intelligence but when it comes down to pure combat skill, Damian wins easily. She has struggled in practically every fight she's had since New 52 began.

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    #29  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @gettogaara said:

    She has struggled in practically every fight she's had since New 52 began.

    How do we know Damian wouldn't have struggled or even been killed in any of those fights? What has he done that puts him beyond her level?
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    #30  Edited By inferiorego  Staff

    Damian is the weakest... because he's dead.

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    #31  Edited By FatihBATMAN

    @inferiorego said:

    Damian is the weakest... because he's dead.

    :P

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    #32  Edited By arnoldoaad

    @Stronger said:

    I personally believe it's Barbara.

    I completely agree

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    #33  Edited By TeamUnitedNerds

    Probably Tim Drake

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    #34  Edited By gettogaara

    @inferiorego: Lol, because Jason and Bruce haven't "died" before.

    @Vance Astro: Honestly, it's hard to compare the two because Damian hasn't gone out of his way to start problems with her like he has with the other Robins. However, Damian rarely struggles with an opponent and when he does it's because they're on a similar level to Batman(NoBody & Heretic) So no I doubt he would've been killed by the people she was going up against but he might have struggled with a few. This is assuming he's not allowed to use the weapons he's mastered such as his sword though.

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    #35  Edited By wessaari

    Either Babs or Tim. Ive been reading some of the stuff that came out before the new 52, (because i started reading comics right when the new 52 started) and im now starting to see how dramatically different some of the characters are. I finally see why everyone is up in arms about Tim and Babs. Tim has been downgraded so badly, and Babs is different without her Oracle background. i do see that she is still adjusting with her mobility and I have liked the series, but she has been playing the victim card. DOTF finally got her to face her fears and I loved how she handled it. I don't like the way Lobdell writes Tim, he is so cold, calculating, boring, and in way over his head. So if i had to choose between the two, I would say that Babs would be the weakest physically. Batman's a beast, Batwoman is most likely the strongest non super powered female in the DCU, Nightwing and Jason are pretty evenly matched but Jason has a new set of skills with the All-Caste, I would say that Damian and Tim are evenly matched, leaving Babs and Selina at the bottom of the totem pole, and I would see Selina getting herself out of a jam much quicker than Babs.

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    #36  Edited By V_Scarlotte_Rose

    @wessaari: Batwoman's not one of the family, but you could be right about the strength, she is pretty tough after all.

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    #37  Edited By spinningbirdcake

    It's Batman.

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    #38  Edited By Teerack

    Barbara easily.

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    #39  Edited By Batnandez

    @John Valentine: benching is not a good indicator of fight skill

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    #40  Edited By wessaari

    @V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

    @wessaari: Batwoman's not one of the family, but you could be right about the strength, she is pretty tough after all.

    true but I still like to include her because of her ties to Batman. I don't like that she is left in the corner of all things Gotham. I don't want her to be buddy buddy with everyone, but i think she deserves to have her presence known. Hell she even spared with Batgirl, and didnt break a sweat. All it takes to beat Babs is a swift kick to the back or a punch to the nose.

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    #41  Edited By V_Scarlotte_Rose

    @wessaari: I actually like that she's in her corner. It's been a pretty interesting corner to be in. :)

    When I read that scene, it seemed a little odd that Batgirl took such a pounding, but I'm hearing she's kinda weak, and I know that Batwoman's strong, so I understand it now.

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    #42  Edited By wessaari

    @wessaari: I think DOTF has made her stronger, but it still doesn't get her higher in the rankings.

    As for Batwoman in her corner, don't get me wrong, I think where she is now is where she needs to be. I love what she is doing, and I have picked up many back issues since I got Elegy. I just want her to be recognized is all. Babs was like, I don't know much about her, her bio doesn't say she has much training, but I think I can take her. She later goes on to say that she needs to update Batwoman bio. That is the kind of stuff I am talking about, kicking ass and letting everyone around know.

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    #43  Edited By V_Scarlotte_Rose

    @wessaari:What rankings?

    If by recognized, you mean she beats up each individual member of the family, I'd be alright with that. :)

    Speaking of training, is one of the back issues you've got the second #0(Interlude)? It has some good information on how extreme Batwomans' training was.

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    #44  Edited By entropy_aegis

    Barbara easily.

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    #45  Edited By BlackWind

    If Stephanie doesn't count, then Barbara. Honestly, fighting isn't her strong point.

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    #46  Edited By TDK_1997

    Babs.

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    #47  Edited By wessaari

    @V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

    @wessaari:What rankings?

    If by recognized, you mean she beats up each individual member of the family, I'd be alright with that. :)

    Speaking of training, is one of the back issues you've got the second #0(Interlude)? It has some good information on how extreme Batwomans' training was.

    ya i did lol. I wanna find the first 0 issue though. Its proving to be difficult

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    #48  Edited By V_Scarlotte_Rose

    @wessaari said:

    @V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

    @wessaari:What rankings?

    If by recognized, you mean she beats up each individual member of the family, I'd be alright with that. :)

    Speaking of training, is one of the back issues you've got the second #0(Interlude)? It has some good information on how extreme Batwomans' training was.

    ya i did lol. I wanna find the first 0 issue though. Its proving to be difficult

    Maybe it's a little harder to find than the others because it came out longer ago.

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    #49  Edited By Saucedo17

    @V_Scarlotte_Rose: If you guys are talking about the new 52 Batwoman 0 issue than you can buy it digitally on comixology.

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    #50  Edited By FatihBATMAN

    @entropy_aegis said:

    Barbara easily.

    :O

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