@itouchedtheboat:
ABC Logic isn't going to work. It assumes that the Joker WILL always be prepped for anything (PIS) and that Punisher and all other anti heroes WILL always operate just like Batman, thus fall for Joker's funhouse/ traps, they won't. It also doesn't take into account that what they may lack in skill they make up for in superior weaponry/ technology, armor (Carbonadium, Vibranium, Adamantium, etc), and/ or recovery (healing factors like Deadpool).
Punisher/MK are much physically and intellectually obsolete to Batman, and Batman has trouble (at times) against Joker's traps, that isn't even ABC logic, there is little to nothing Punisher brings to the table against Joker that Batman hasn't aside from actual weaponry and even with that, others have failed just like Punisher would. Also, I'm not saying Punisher is going to operate like Batman does, my first post I even say that Joker won't treat any of the anti-heores the same as he would with Batman because they won't operate like Batman does. He would make traps specifically for Punisher or MK, just like he made traps specifically for Jason Todd, Jim Gordon, Nightwing, etc. And in all those people I've listed he simply didn't kill them (aside from Jason Todd) because he knew that even if they escaped they'd never return to kill him (or be able to kill him at all). What tech does Punisher or MK have that is superior to Batman's?
Punisher in particular doesn't have to get anywhere near Joker to kill him. He can snipe Joker from a distance or even bomb him. Batman uses Close Combat/ Nonlethal methods so he HAS to endure Joker's torments. it isn't a matter of skill or physical stats, its a difference in methodology. Plus while no Batman or Deathstroke, Punisher isn't exactly weak in prep skills himself. If either one is going to know about the others capabilities first it's probably going to be him.
Punisher is nothing compared to Deathstroke or Batman in prep, how dare you insult the prep Gods. But in all seriousness, he isn't. We're setting Joker in the Marvel universe meaning for the sake of argument; he'd be equally obsessed with Punisher like he is with Batman. That means he'll know how Punisher operates. Batman has to constantly think 'outside the box' when dealing with the Joker because The Joker strategically plans his attacks according to how Batman operates, he can easily do that with Punisher, except he'll only have to do that once because his plan would be to kill Punisher.
Also there are waaaaayyyyyyyy, more street levelers in Marvel who can take the Joker than that. I don't see how Spiderman even counts as a street leveler.
whoops I didn't mean to count Spiderman as a street leveler, I must've worded it wrongly. Anyways Daredevil, MK and Punisher all take L's. Read Batman Endgame and understand that if any of these three in replaced with Bruce, they would never survive. Hell, even Bruce wouldn't survive unless he got help from others.
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