@orangebat:
- The Bat-Family concept is completely retarded. And don't give me that "but Robin was there at the start!" horseshit. Robin was there at the start, the family wasn't. As a concept, it didn't exist until the 90's.
Fist bump.
Harley Quinn completely sucks now. She sucked before too, but the Joker obsession sorta gave her some personality. Now she's basically a wannabe Deadpool, except nowhere as interesting or cool.
I don't like what they're doing now but I loved her when she was Joker obsessed..
- Catwoman. Bisexual. Why? More importantly, which idiot thought it was a good idea to approve this?
Fist bump.
- Batman has way too many special suits and gadgets now. I miss the days when he could hang with the top tiers and fight crime without needing any super armors. He's not freakin' Iron Man. His body is his greatest weapon.
Bumpin your fist.
- The only true heir to the Batman mantle is Dick Grayson. Not Damian. Not Tim. Grayson.
For me Dick would reject the Batman role choosing to be his own thing and do it his way. Having said that i don't think the others are right either.
- Ra's al Ghul is severely overrated. As are Joker, Riddler and Bane.
Only because of failed to meet the challenge of the image that want us to believe.
- Mr. Freeze actually works better without Nora's existence. In fact, I wouldn't mind him going back to his "ordinary criminal with super weaponry" origin. It works well enough for 95% of Marvel supervillains, it should work fine for him.
Disagree. What they did in TAS was wonderful.
- Pairing Harley and Ivy should have stayed in fanfiction land, where Ivy's character is already ruined enough to not be wrecked further by association with Harley.
I would fist bump you in agreement if I didn't catch that poor opinion of Harley as a character at the end.
- Cassandra Cain does not fit in the Batman universe.
They certainly failed to make her a place for sure. I have ideas for her but it would be more about Nightwing and set in the future.
Stephanie Brown is pointless now that Barbara is back to being the cheerful Batgirl.
There is truth to this. For me there shouldn't be a Batgirl and Steph would work for Oracle as Spoiler.
The only significant thing Tim Drake can do now is die to further Batman's angst. Or else just retire altogether.
If DC didn't screw up the Teen Titans so much I would disagree with you. Still though I wouldn't want to copy Jason Todd's thing.
- Damian Wayne should have never been created.
I looove the little guy. Still though I agree to some extent. At least have Talia raise him in secret and only meet in the future when Batman is older and Damian is an adult. Damian would never have been Robin and would heavily be Ra's al Ghul league of Assassins influenced. No interest in Gotham.
- Dick Grayson and Jason Todd are the only only two Robins worth a damn. In my ideal continuation of Batman's legacy, Jason goes full crazy psycho and evil, and becomes the arch-enemy of Dick Grayson when he takes over as Batman.
Never liked Jason Todd as Robin. In my universe he stays dead (it's an important thing). Someone else becomes Red Hood and rival of Dick after having harassed Batman with the memory of Todd who Batman originally thought was Todd. Tim Drake would be the only Robin to be officially active. He wouldn't have a relationship with Batman. Instead he figured out who Dick is was and confronted him not Batman. Dick sends him off to trainers using all the connections he's made in the second generation hero community and Tim works as Robin on the TT team where all young heroes are learning the ropes.
- Harold needs to come back. Come to think of it, I don't think that's really an unpopular opinion.
I think it's unpopular because everyone wants Batman to be the one to build his own stuff. You know because Batman can do everything apparently.
I actually agree Harold should come back. Though I wouldn't keep him in the cave and he wouldn't know who Batman is.
- DC needs to stop teasing Batman/Poison Ivy and make it happen already.
Universe no. I don't want them hooking up at all. I don't see this teasing you speak of. Only time I've seen it is when Ivy is trying to drug him to do her bidding but it's not real interest. It's just what she does.
- Batman has outgrown many of his classic villains by now, especially Joker. If DC wants to move him forward, they need to start working on some obscure ones, or create new ones.
I disagree but I would like new ones anyway.
- I wouldn't mind Batman having more super-powered/gadget-powered villains created for him to throw down with. Something more along the lines of Clayface, Poison Ivy, Killer Croc, Mr. Freeze, and so on.
Only if their low tier IMO.
- Gotham's gothic look needs to die already. It's not cool anymore, it's just plain boring. If you wanna differentiate Gotham, make it a futuristic dystopia, or something. Anything but that godawful gothic design.
Universe no.
- Black Mask has been a terrible villain since his inception. If you don't believe me, read his origin story, and how pathetic he is all throughout. He was never meant to be A-List material.
He can be fixed with work. I have some ideas but it would mean changes.
- White Rabbit needs to be fleshed out more. Yes, she has a knock-off Emma Frost outfit. But damn it, she was interesting!
White Rabbit should find out it's rabbit season and die. Actually if I got my hands on her and absolutely was forced to use her she would be nothing more than a tool for Mad Hatter to distract Batman. She would have no powers. Maaaybe have some gadget Made by Hatter she uses to project misdirection.
- The Batman was a more entertaining cartoon in many respects than Batman: The Animated Series. Especially with their take on Batman as more humane and friendly rather than cold and rude.
I disagree.
@fuzzylittlerodent:
-Most of Batman's mental issues are self-inflicted
I don't believe I would say most.
-He's not really relatable.
There is some truth to this.
-Dick Grayson is a better character
I disagree
-We needs moar Terry McGinnis in our lives
Strongly disagree unless it's the separate beyond universe.
-I hate TDKR
Props
-Court of Owls is the only good New 52 Batman story
That's true and though even that was mostly because of concept. I think they could have done it even better.
-Michael Keton is still my favorite Batman actor
Groan
-Batman:TAS has the best portrayal of Batman
It was very good. Though I'll never forgive them for hooking up Batman and Batgirl
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