Owlman and the Court of Owls - connections?

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#1 Posted by Sekele (298 posts) - - Show Bio

Excuse me is someone already brought this up, but what do you think about the possible connections between Owlman of Earth 3 / Anti-Matter universe, and the Court of Owls?

As we all probably know, Owlman is Batman's villainous counterpart from an alternate reality, and member of the Crime Syndicate of America

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His owl motive and connections to organized crime seem to echo within the recently introduced Court of Owls of the New 52

To top this all of, Owlman's equivalent of Robin was called Talon, similar to how the elite killers of the Court of Owls are called now

I seriously doubt that this is a coincidence

Is this Scott Snyder paying homage to the Bat's evil twin, or it this some sort of building-up to a new origin story for Owlman once Earth 3 gets re-introduced?

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#2 Posted by Billy Batson (60952 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh, I doubt they're connected.
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#3 Posted by Jodez (157 posts) - - Show Bio

So does that mean in Owlman's universe, The Court of Owl's would be The Court of Bats?

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#4 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (18212 posts) - - Show Bio

They have no connections.

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#5 Posted by Sekele (298 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jodez:

then their agents would be called Robin's

but they'd probably be a band of freedom-fighters instead of an ancient conspiracy

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#6 Posted by sinestro_GL (3651 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sekele: The whole Owl and Bat thing is natural - given that the Owl is the natural predator of the Bat. I'm actually surprised that this concept hasn't been explored enough in Batman's history.

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#7 Posted by Imagine_Man15 (1809 posts) - - Show Bio

It would be cool if The Court of Owls served a new origin for Owlman, like, perhaps a rogue Talon? I doubt it, but it would be cool.

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#8 Posted by Dernman (26467 posts) - - Show Bio

I could see Owlman being head of the Court of Owls in that universe. 
 
 
@sinestro_GL: They probably did think of it when they first came up with Owlman.

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#9 Posted by evilvegeta74 (4674 posts) - - Show Bio

This is an interesting topic and makes a lot of sense to me!

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#10 Posted by Onemoreposter (4365 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sekele said:

@Jodez:

then their agents would be called Robin's

but they'd probably be a band of freedom-fighters instead of an ancient conspiracy

Naw, the Nightwing would be the agent of the court of owls

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#11 Posted by sinestro_GL (3651 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dernman: Yes of course...my point is that I find it strange that owls haven't been mentioned as often as I would have thought

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#12 Posted by Dernman (26467 posts) - - Show Bio
@sinestro_GL: Ya I get you. Though I wish they would dial down some of the symbolism. Especially since Morrison.
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#13 Posted by littleloup (25 posts) - - Show Bio

Now that #10 is out, we can say that in a weird way this topic was onto something, but not in the way it thought it was.

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#14 Posted by Sekele (298 posts) - - Show Bio

well, it does confirm my suspicion that the two were somehow connected, and that the parallels were fully intentional

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#15 Posted by Twentyfive (3057 posts) - - Show Bio

Personally, I just hope it's a coincidence. Not everything in the world has to be connected. That would be too perfect, and way too easy.

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#16 Posted by batshrine (1081 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a coincidence, it was planned as an homage. Snyder took an old concept and refreshed it, and really made it plausible and cool.

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#17 Posted by Nostalgia_Man (3 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm cool with the reinvention of Owlman, but to introduce him as Thomas Wayne Jr? Not too sure how I feel about that... seems like whenever they introduce the "lost long sibling" concept things get messy. But c'mon, I have 100% faith in everything Snyder is doing!

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#18 Posted by TDK_1997 (18938 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think they actually have any connections between themselves.

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#19 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio
@TDK_1997 said:

I don't think they actually have any connections between themselves.

With both Owlman and Talon being Thomas Wayne Jr it seems pretty connected 
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#20 Posted by TDK_1997 (18938 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbat87: It seems so but I don't think Snyder did that on purpose.

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#21 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio
@TDK_1997 said:

@spiderbat87: It seems so but I don't think Snyder did that on purpose.

Didn't he say it was a homage or something? I forget. 
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#22 Posted by batshrine (1081 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997: Nope it was on purpose. Read recent interviews with Snyder, it was all planned out, and done for just that reason.

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#23 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (12493 posts) - - Show Bio

interesting. If they are connected, that would be really cool

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#24 Posted by Loki9876 (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

EPIC SPOILER: yes

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#25 Posted by batshrine (1081 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997: I think you are missing the point, Snyder himself stated that he did it on purpose. just read the interviews on the main news page on this website

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#26 Posted by Nostalgia_Man (3 posts) - - Show Bio

It's hard to say if Owlman is telling the truth too.. can't wait for the next issue!

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#27 Posted by batmanary (817 posts) - - Show Bio

@TDK_1997 said:

@spiderbat87: It seems so but I don't think Snyder did that on purpose.

He did. It was an homage to the whole idea of Owlman, especially with Morrison's being Thomas Wayne Jr as well.

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