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    Bruce Wayne, who witnessed the murder of his billionaire parents as a child, swore to avenge their deaths. He trained extensively to achieve mental and physical perfection, mastering martial arts, detective skills, and criminal psychology. Costumed as a bat to prey on the fears of criminals, and utilizing a high-tech arsenal, he became the legendary Batman.

    Off My Mind: Why Was Batman Raised by a Butler?

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    #51  Edited By AshleyW

    Never even registered before, but I have to go with Alfred being mentioned in the will. 
     
    Golden age I just assumed he was raised by a family member as he was introduced as a adult.

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    #52  Edited By Blackout62

    Man just think what would have happened if Bruce hadn't turned to fighting crime. We could had a heavily cultured comic about a young man and his butler living it up Jeeves and Wooster style in a city of rampant crime and occasional superheroics.

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    #53  Edited By Grubich

    I'm still stuck on Thomas Wayne Jr.

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    Did his parents have any siblings
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    #55  Edited By The Sadhu

    The Waynes trusted Alfred greatly also... I suspect that Thomas Wayne had knowledge of his family dark secrets and in that trusted no one from his family. 
     
    So Alfred was the best choice!
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    #56  Edited By wandfc
    @GamiSB: Good point.
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    #57  Edited By Lovingdamnation

    I always thought he was in an aunt-uncle-cousin kind of Wayne foster care system until he up and left the country, I kind of always wanted to see how that played out, I might have missed it. It'd be a pretty cool scene to see a 18 yr old, or whatever age, Bruce convincing Alfred he should go train to be a ninja.

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    #58  Edited By Mr_Wayne69

    Actually wasn't AUNT HARRIET the woman you don't want mentioned retconned into Morrison's continuity as being around in a flashback scene cutting a turkey? I could be wrong.
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    #59  Edited By batmanary

    Bruce and Alfred altered the paperwork
    Thomas and Martha left Alfred as the guardian in their will
    Any lawyer who tried to raise a stink while on the payroll of the multimillionaire Kanes would be rebuffed by the billion dollar Wayne lawyer
    I say Uncle Philip was there...but not around too much. Busy I suppose? I mean Bruce did leave around 14, which would only really leave about 6 years in Wayne Manor anyways.

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    #60  Edited By jamdown

    I would like to be raised by Professor Butletron from Clone High
       
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    #61  Edited By lionellaflare

    What was Alfred's Brother's name?
    I believe you may find your Uncle Phillip answer somewhere there..

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    Nobody wanted the little jerk :P

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    #63  Edited By gmanfromheck
    @Emperormeister734: Neither Thomas or Martha had siblings.
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    #64  Edited By sgt_match

    Yeah... but now that you mention it... a Thomas Wayne will reading flashback would be really cool.  With everyone trying to get a piece and Bruce getting the bulk... and being intrusted to the butler.  Put that in the hands of a great writer (Morrison could do it justice) and you'd have a wonderful scene that wouldn't eff up the canon as far as I know.

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    #65  Edited By TheCrowbar

    Isn't Uncle Philip only part of Earth 1?

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    #66  Edited By xanthiss

    I don't think that its any less believable than a swinging bachelor becoming a guardian for 3 teenage boys. Money talks. 

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    #67  Edited By DKing_CiCADA

    Could it be possible that no one keep in contact with each other and there was rough family bonding 

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    #68  Edited By NightFang3
    @lazystudent said:

    " Part of parents will? they did respect Alfred "

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    #69  Edited By El_Derrico

    You would think a rich little boy raised by a butler would end up like a Lindsay Lohan. Good thing Bruce had that vengeance thing going for him. 

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    #70  Edited By Eyz
    @xanthiss said:
    " I don't think that its any less believable than a swinging bachelor becoming a guardian for 3 teenage boys. Money talks.  "
    Imagine Gotham's gossips!
    - oh oh oh!
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    #71  Edited By DarkBird

    Alfred is like his uncle and he  know how to take care of him

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    #72  Edited By kevin88wk

    wow never thougth of that

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    #73  Edited By nefarious

    I find it interesting for a child to be raised by a butler.

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    #74  Edited By gamezntoyz

    interesting

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    #75  Edited By Mr.Q
    this has always kind of bothered me but not as much as the fact that Alfred went along with Bruce's wishes. comic book time aside bruce spent many years traveling abroad, learning 316 styles of martial arts, sciences, escapology, criminology, law, survival training and what have you. I don't care you good you are that takes time. lets say Bruce debuted as Batman at 30 or so. his parents died and his journey begins at 10. so 20 years training but money aside Bruce would need to finish school so he was 'free' at 18-19. thats less time we are led to believe his journey began right away. so the seen is a 10 year old child who is grieving over his newly dead parents tells a grown man (Alfred) that he wants to travel the world and learn to become the worlds greatest crime fighter so no other child has to suffer as he has, and Alfred just said... ok.  something seems off.
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    #76  Edited By likalaruku
    Why? Because it's not continent for the writers :D
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    #77  Edited By drf4u5t
     @Oddity said:
    " If my parents die they are leaving me in the custody of our gardener Pablo.... "  
    ...and thus BatManuel was born.
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    #78  Edited By SMK100
    @Xenozoic Shaman:  Dun dun dun!
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    #79  Edited By BlackPookie

    im sure the first thing i do after i have  a son will be to arrange things with his godfather or someone I deeply trust to take care of him, in case something wrong happens to me!
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    #80  Edited By CATPANEXE

    Maybe it was always the Waynes dream that Bruce would one day grow to be a butler.

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    #81  Edited By cosmo111687

    I don't have any references to back it up, but just from thinking about who Batman is I think the answer is that when Bruce's parents died Batman was born and Bruce understood that his mission to become the world's greatest crime fighter would be hindered if he had anybody other than Alfred as his legal guardian. Only Alfred, who could serve as a legal guardian, a surrogate father, a link to his parents, a mentor, and a loyal friend, could provide Bruce with all the things he needed to become the man he needed to be, and anybody else would get in the way. So he had to pull strings, as he always does, to keep that from happening.

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    #82  Edited By Feliciano2040
    @cosmo111687: As a nine year old boy ? I think that is a little far-fetched even for a Batman written by Morrison !
     
    I think it's what most people have said, it was in the will.
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    #83  Edited By cosmo111687
    @Feliciano2040 said:

    @cosmo111687: As a nine year old boy ? I think that is a little far-fetched even for a Batman written by Morrison !  I think it's what most people have said, it was in the will.

    Well, it's a boy with Batman's drive and intelligence. If Thomas Elliot can plot the murder of his parents at the same age, then Batman can recognize that nobody should raise him but Alfred because anybody else would get in the way of fulfilling his mission. 
     
    Edit: I think that previously to the murder of the Waynes, Bruce couldn't have plotted anything like that. But with their death, he was fundamentally transformed as a person and was consumed by his drive to eventually become Batman.
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    #84  Edited By Feliciano2040
    @cosmo111687 said:
    I think that previously to the murder of the Waynes, Bruce couldn't have plotted anything like that. But with their death, he was fundamentally transformed as a person and was consumed by his drive to eventually become Batman.
     
    Naturally, but you've left me wondering since you reminded me of Tommy Elliot ! Hush is fucking awesome, damn Selina !
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    #85  Edited By cosmo111687
    @Feliciano2040 said:
    @cosmo111687 said:
    I think that previously to the murder of the Waynes, Bruce couldn't have plotted anything like that. But with their death, he was fundamentally transformed as a person and was consumed by his drive to eventually become Batman.
     Naturally, but you've left me wondering since you reminded me of Tommy Elliot ! Hush is fucking awesome, damn Selina !
    Now I want to read Hush and Batman: Ego again...:)
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    #86  Edited By Feliciano2040
    @cosmo111687: Batman: Ego ? What's it about ?
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    #87  Edited By cosmo111687
    @Feliciano2040: Oh! It's really good! Really, I don't know why it's not better known. It's a Darwyn Cooke story about the balance between Bruce Wayne and the Batman persona as the Batman persona tries to draw Bruce Wayne further into the darkness. It explores the little, innocuous events that occurred previous to the murder of the Waynes and how their deaths forever changed Bruce as a person, as well as how his future relationship with Robin helped keep him from being consumed by the darkness. It's really touching and delves very deeply into Bruce/Batman's character. It comes really highly recommended. Check it out on Amazon or your nearest library! :) 
     
    http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Other-Tails-Darwyn-Cooke/dp/1401213596/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1309496865&sr=1-1 
     
    Edit: It's been a while since I've read it, but it doesn't only touch upon Robin (much more briefly than I remembered), but it really fully examines most of Batman's major post-Dark Victory relationships.
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    #88  Edited By atdt

    I think, Bruce is want becoz of Alfred ...

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    By the way, here's that image of Uncle Philip that always drove me crazy. Not knowing who he was supposed to be. Now we're finding out in Zero Year.

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    Thomas and Martha Wayne had Alfred down in their will as Bruce's guardian in the event of their deaths.

    Pretty simple, really.

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    @silkcuts said:

    I love this history lesson articles.

    I personally like to think Bruce raised himself, while Alfred made sure the Manor was taken care of and if Bruce happened to need something Alfred was around. It would be this need to make something for himself (Bruce) that drives him to be The Batman.

    I tend to agree. Alfred seemed to butler, and not parent. Which makes his childhood pretty creepy

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    There was an explanation somewhere, but I forget what the explanation was... It was something like Bruce wanted it this way and he convinced Alfred Pennyworth and Leslie Thompkins to allow him to be raised by Alfred with oversight by Leslie and likewise his guardianship was awarded to them and so Lesli and Alfred are like his mother and father. I also think I remember there being something in the will to allow Alfred to raise him, rather than the Kanes. This can and does happen in the real world. Custody of the child does not go directly to those related... It goes to who is in the will first, the close kin, then into an orphanage.

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    because why not

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    #94  Edited By MuyJingo

    I always assumed Alfred was a godfather or something....since he was more than just a butler to the family.

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    #95  Edited By Breadspread

    @muyjingo: I agree he is way more than just a butler, he IS family.

    He is the butler in title because Bruce is old money and it is what is acceptable. How many teary-eyed stories about Bruce's parents does Alfred need to tell? He was obviously closer to the Wayne's than any blood relative. Who better to remind Bruce of who his parents were. Alfred indulges Bruce's mission, he is often a voice of reason but he helps Bruce be Batman.

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    #96  Edited By OhItsThatGuy

    Probably for the same reason Batman gives Alfred the highest level of security clearance to the Bat Cave. People trust Alfred. Even people that hate Batman trust Alfred.

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