Name should stay Bruce.

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#1  Edited By johnny_spam

I think that this article should not change the real name to Dick Grayson since he has his own article. And he should not take over this one I still keep seeing the real name listed as Dick Grayson when this is clearly Bruce's page.

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#2  Edited By DEGRAAF

i say it is  batman and right now batman is Dick so i think the stricle should be changed to Dicks name. It only seems fair and right. Bruce isnt batman anymore.

Bruce, Dick and Batman should each have their own pages. Dick should be linked to batman right now

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#3  Edited By SUNMAN

it should change to Dick, because currently he is Batman

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#4  Edited By johnny_spam
@SUNMAN:

Dick has his own page and if anything should change it should be his main picture to one of him as Batman (I would but I don't know how to change it) this page gives a very detailed history of Bruce Wayne and not Dick Grayson at that alone should be reason not to change it.Batman Reborn is about Dick acting like Batman and trying to fill in for Bruce, besides at some poiint we may see a flashback or out of continunity story where Bruce is still Batman.

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#5  Edited By SUNMAN
@johnny spam: than just pm a mod or staff member, they will listen to you and if they think you have a good point I am sure they will try and make the adjustments
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#6  Edited By Psychotime

I agree wholehearted. This is the only problem the encyclopedia has. It doesn't work when it comes to people switching mantles. There shouldn't be pages for a secret identity that gets traded around and Batman shouldn't be treated as such. He's Bruce Wayne, and always has been. Grayson's only temporary.

EDIT: Better yet, maybe the encyclopedia should work in a way that one could refer to a character when they take a specific identity. Like for the current Batman run, we can type in Dick Grayson as a character, but it should allow a subsection to note that he's either Batman, Robin, Nightwing, or anything else in the issue.

It'd make it much easier to search for the issues where a character is a specific identity. Like search for every issue where Spoiler was Robin for a little while.

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#7  Edited By SUNMAN
@Psychotime said:
" I agree wholehearted. This is the only problem the encyclopedia has. It doesn't work when it comes to people switching mantles. There shouldn't be pages for a secret identity that gets traded around and Batman shouldn't be treated as such. He's Bruce Wayne, and always has been. Grayson's only temporary. "
so you assume
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#8  Edited By Xypher07

I think Bruce'll be gone for at least two years and if the titles popular enough possibly longer.  It's all about the money and right now we are made to assume it will be permanent so for the sake of these articles that's what we should assume.  Rebooting series like Batman and Robin and Red Robin does not suggest this will be a short term move.

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#9  Edited By Psychotime
@Xypher07 said:
" I think Bruce'll be gone for at least two years and if the titles popular enough possibly longer.  It's all about the money and right now we are made to assume it will be permanent so for the sake of these articles that's what we should assume.  Rebooting series like Batman and Robin and Red Robin does not suggest this will be a short term move. "
What reboot? There never actually was any comic named Batman and Robin before this one (yeah, I was surprised, too.) Anyway, Morrison says that he'll be writing for Batman until maybe 2010, and that he'll finish everything he wants to do by then. He's making a 5 volume story for Batman.

  1. Batman and Son
  2. The Black Glove
  3. R.I.P
  4. Batman and Robin
  5. ???
He says that he still needs to bring Bruce back home somehow, and that's probably what the last volume will be. Batman and Robin (at least under Morrison's writing) is only going for so long. Red Robin will probably be ongoing, because I doubt Tim will trade in the new suit just because his dad comes back home.
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#10  Edited By johnny_spam

I think it's so stupid that superhero mantles have there own pages like Batgirl but sometimes there is no page for the character that uses that name like Cassandra so this should be Batman/Bruce Wayne and Dick Grayson's should just be named Dick Grayson since he has had the names Robin, Nightwing and now Batman.

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#11  Edited By Xypher07
@Psychotime said:
" @Xypher07 said:
" I think Bruce'll be gone for at least two years and if the titles popular enough possibly longer.  It's all about the money and right now we are made to assume it will be permanent so for the sake of these articles that's what we should assume.  Rebooting series like Batman and Robin and Red Robin does not suggest this will be a short term move. "
What reboot? There never actually was any comic named Batman and Robin before this one (yeah, I was surprised, too.) Anyway, Morrison says that he'll be writing for Batman until maybe 2010, and that he'll finish everything he wants to do by then. He's making a 5 volume story for Batman.

  1. Batman and Son
  2. The Black Glove
  3. R.I.P
  4. Batman and Robin
  5. ???
He says that he still needs to bring Bruce back home somehow, and that's probably what the last volume will be. Batman and Robin (at least under Morrison's writing) is only going for so long. Red Robin will probably be ongoing, because I doubt Tim will trade in the new suit just because his dad comes back home. "
Very valid point.  I was kind of considering it a reboot on the batman and robin adventures, but in retrospect that ended in 97.  It's been a while since I've read more in the bat universe than just batman so excuse my poor memory.  Still I guess my point then becomes beginning new titles using these characters still suggests a little more long term planning than Bruce coming back soon.  I am curious as to whether you have a link for Morrison saying that because I haven't seen anything concrete from Morrison's mouth on the subject of Bruce coming back, only other's speculations on what Morrison may do with the character.
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#12  Edited By DEGRAAF
@johnny spam said:
"@SUNMAN:

Dick has his own page and if anything should change it should be his main picture to one of him as Batman (I would but I don't know how to change it) this page gives a very detailed history of Bruce Wayne and not Dick Grayson at that alone should be reason not to change it.Batman Reborn is about Dick acting like Batman and trying to fill in for Bruce, besides at some poiint we may see a flashback or out of continunity story where Bruce is still Batman.

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But it is about batman and no matter how long bruce was batman Dcik is now batman and it belongs to him
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#13  Edited By johnny_spam

Even Grant Morrison said this would not be permanent (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20487) I like the story and would prefer Bruce to stay gone at least two years but Batman and Robin is supposed to last one year. This is Bruce's page and should stay that way.


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#14  Edited By DEGRAAF

you have to know that he would only be gone a year. They do these huge crisis stories than after they are over the big three take a year off or away from the JL and mostly everything else. They all get cut back or not seen at all for a year after each of them

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#15  Edited By Psychotime
@Xypher07: Looks like Johnny Spam already posted it.
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#16  Edited By Xypher07
@johnny spam and @psychotime: Thanks.  Just to clarify cuz after re-reading my post it may have come off like I was doubting you.  I just hadn't seen this yet.
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#17  Edited By Lantern Goodey

the thing is this forum is about Batman and whoever Batman happends to be this forum should move along with it

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#18  Edited By ARMIV

Bruce is Batman,Dick is the replacement.

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#19  Edited By Lantern Goodey

When bruce returns Dick will step down and everyone will be happy again lol

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it should stay as bruce wayne. id also like a page just for the bruce wayne side of the character, but you cant have everything i suppose.

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#21  Edited By G'bandit

The page is about BATMAN who is Batman at the moment? Dick Grayson.

If they catch Batsy and unmask him they will catch Dick not Bruce.

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#22  Edited By johnny_spam

Batman is not Green Lantern Flash or Batgirl there has only Bruce Wayne and barely now Richard Grayson his article should be altered to have a picture of him wearing a batcostume and there should be no Bruce Wayne seperate article I think it's stupid enough that there is a Batgirl article and no Cassandra article. This article also gives the history of Bruce Wayne and just based on that should not be altered to Richard's.

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#23  Edited By Lantern Goodey

yes there is only 1 Bruce Wayne but Batman is a name and who ever takes up the name of Batman becomes Batman its lyk when Bruce Wayne retires Terry McGuiness takes over he is now Batman.

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#24  Edited By johnny_spam

The name and this page relates to Bruce is all I'm saying Dick doesn't need to take over this page. Also this page will start to make little sense if it lists Richard Grayson when an out-of continunity Batman story happens with Bruce still Batman. So far Superman/Batman still has Bruce and I think Kevin Smith's Batman story is about a young Bruce.

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#25  Edited By Psychotime

WAIT!

I got it! Why not just change it to Bruce Wayne! When Hawkeye was replaced and changed identities, a mod was smart enough to simply change his page into his real name instead of his original identity! Same happened with Dick Grayson once he became Batman!

If people aren't able to agree, why not just change it into real names?!

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