What if instead of Earth 2's Alan Scott, it was the mainstream earth Batman that turned out to be gay in the reboot? Would you be happy about the change, not really care or would you despise the idea? What would it change about the Dark Knight and would you still read his verious Bat-books?
Batman
Character » Batman appears in 23635 issues.
Bruce Wayne, who witnessed the murder of his billionaire parents as a child, swore to avenge their deaths. He trained extensively to achieve mental and physical perfection, mastering martial arts, detective skills, and criminal psychology. Costumed as a bat to prey on the fears of criminals, and utilizing a high-tech arsenal, he became the legendary Batman.
How Would You Feel If Batman Was Homosexual?
Would not matter to me. I don't much like Batman right now, but I guess I would hate him a little less.
@batshrine: No, I mean he turns legit homosexual. It's retconned to say he never wanted to be with any of those women and he never will be with another woman again. :P
It would ruin Batman for me. Nothing against gays and its good that there is gay heroes, but Batman is not gay.
@theicon said:
goes to show u its a choice, had they started that way it would fit the character, but changing over is the new thing. and very insulting to followers of these original characters.... but it always boils down to a Choice! Proof of that now more then ever
You come to the conclusion that people are gay by choice because a fictional character in a fictional setting is turned gay by a business enterprise? Ok...
I would hat it, becuase there is many gays character and also, it would be pretty less original that people could think.
He's what Grant Morrison has to say about that!
He's very plutonian in the sense that he's wealthy and also in the sense that he's sexually deviant. Gayness is built into Batman. I'm not using gay in the pejorative sense, but Batman is very, very gay. There's just no denying it. Obviously as a fictional character he's intended to be heterosexual, but the basis of the whole concept is utterly gay. I think that's why people like it. All these women fancy him and they all wear fetish clothes and jump around rooftops to get to him. He doesn't care-he's more interested in hanging out with the old guy and the kid.
Original interview (a great read for Morrison fans)
@ComicStooge: I like my batman punching the joker, sexing beautiful ladies after just a scowl, then going back to his mansion.
@The_Tree said:
I'd be angry, because A.) it'd pretty much be change for the sake of change and B.) it would be completely out of character, since he's been with hundreds, if not thousands of girls in the past.
@Crom-Cruach: Exactly.
The whole 'Batman is gay because he hangs around with a kid and an old man' argument is dumb. Is my dad gay for being around me and my grandfather more then my mother\his wife?
@ComicStooge said:
@Crom-Cruach: Exactly.
The whole 'Batman is gay because he hangs around with a kid and an old man' argument is dumb. Is my dad gay for being around me and my grandfather more then my mother\his wife?
It's more like the 'Batman is gay because he jumps from rooftops dressed in bat fetish gear and hangs out with a kid and an old man rather than the sexy woman who also wear fetish gear that chase after him' argument. I love Batman, he's my all-time favorite comic book character, but he's totally gay dude.
@Crom-Cruach: If only time travel could exist, right? Then we could go back in time and stop any of this crap from ever happening.
@ComicStooge: lol
also this how batman woudl always spend his evenings if he wasn't always too busy picking up the slack for the entire DC universe:
If he had already been established as a gay guy, then...well, I'd be peeved over the lack of Catwoman/Batman relationship hinting...but then again, if he was gay from the get go then that tension might not have been there...but then again with the way relationships are written in comic books nowadays...
Uhhh...I guess it wouldn't bug me then.
If anything, Batman is asexual. Batman is way too into his brooding to be romantic with ANYONE. But that doesn't answer the question. Batman has never really shown to pine for any woman...not like Peter Parker or Clark Kent do...Bruce Wayne being gay might actually make sense.
@ApatheticAvenger: That's just his theme. Does that make every superhero ever gay simply because they have a costume theme?
@ComicStooge said:
@ApatheticAvenger: That's just his theme. Does that make every superhero ever gay simply because they have a costume theme?
Uh, yeah, pretty much. Didn't you read Watchmen? Sexually deviancy is tied in heavily to costumed crime-fighting. :P
As Morrison notes, Batman as a character is clearly written to be heterosexual, hence his relationships with the likes of Catwoman, Wonder Woman, and Talia al Ghul. But the concept behind Batman? Totally gay.
@Crom-Cruach said:
@ComicStooge: lol
also this how batman woudl always spend his evenings if he wasn't always too busy picking up the slack for the entire DC universe:
Exactly.
@ApatheticAvenger: What, you mean the story written by a now crazy bitter old man who has insane rantings? Sure let's all trust his opinion...
@ComicStooge said:
@ApatheticAvenger: What, you mean the story written by a now crazy bitter old man who has insane rantings? Sure let's all trust his opinion...
Sigh... Never mind.
If Batman was gay mmmm no I wouldn't care I would still love the BAT'S he is one of my Favorite superheroes.
Would hate it, but I'd like to think it was because of the seemingly random/drastic PC character change and not because of his sexual preference. Why not start making new characters with more diverse backgrounds as opposed to radically altering established ones....
I'm about as liberal and open-minded as they come. Batman being gay would be heartbreaking. I dont know why.
@ComicStooge said:
@ApatheticAvenger: Sorry, I don't mean to sound like a jerk or anything...
Well, you DID call the most acclaimed writer in comics a bitter old man. Pretty harsh. :P
Not now, no. I wouldn't be bothered if he was already gay, but to suddenly make a character with decades of being established as heterosexual gay for no perceivable reason.. is just stupid. Even in the DCnU, a lot of his continuity was kept more or less intact. Meaning he's still more or less the same Batman. So if they had just changed it at the drop of the hat, I would of been very annoyed, to say the least.
@Gambler said:
Would hate it, but I'd like to think it was because of the seemingly random/drastic PC character change and not because of his sexual preference. Why not start making new characters with more diverse backgrounds as opposed to radically altering established ones....
I agree.
It would seem like they are doing it for shock value instead of for the character.
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