@vmole:
1. Batman is generally against hired thugs, poorly-trained, so your spec ops example is bizarre.
I was using that as an example of how a guy, no matter how well trained, would still fall against any sort of organized gunfire. Batman gets away with what he does because it's comics, but since we're talking about a scenario where this involves a real life equivalent, that guy has a very high chance of dying to some gangbanging idiot with a hand gun.
2.Batman can easily use the authorities. If he managed to escape into a public area, I think the police would concentrate on the guys with than the seemingly poor nut dressed up like a bat, providing distraction. Also the criminals are limited as they'd fear entering a public area due to authorities.
The nut dressed as a bat would end up leaving more clues behind to track him, fabric from his cape and suit can be left behind at the crime scene, his batarangs and other disposable gear can be analyzed, and it could be concluded to the point that only a person with a vast amount of wealth and access to the resources capable of making such top-end gear would be capable of possessing these items. There are not that many people out there are could fit that specific profile, so that's definitely going to narrow down the possible suspects.
The police don't know who the hell he is, all that they know is that he left the crime scene and that they have no idea on his level of involvement, so he's just as much of a suspect as anyone else.
You have to remember that Batman operates outside of the law, and a lot of what he does is technically illegal, so the authorities do indeed have a reason to go after him.
3. He generally uses both unexpected angles and swift movement to quickly restrain criminals.
What? He lives and operates in the same dimensions we do, there's no such thing as an unexpected angle unless he somehow has access to certain dimensions where can pop in and out from like some sort of monster. Those points of access are limited, and funnily enough, a lot of Batman's outings can or should go wrong if any of his objectives involve going down a long well-lit hallway/tunnel with no cover or concealment or any open area like a ball room.
In real life, going through ventilation would make a lot of noise, someone with the amount of gear and build of Batman landing on someone's roof will cause a lot of noise, attempting to quickly break into a metal grate would make a lot of noise, you get the idea. Unless people were asleep or preoccupied by something that dampens their perception, it's generally extremely hard to sneak up on anyone equipped like Batman.
4. That was the shuriken's historical purpose... and it did it pretty effectively. When you have a sharp weapon piercing either your eyes, face, neck or hands, it's a bit more distracting than you think to fight back...
It was its historical purpose before firearms became a lot more prevalent and a lot more effective. Now that every scumbag on the street can get their hands on one, they'd have a decisive advantage over any person that has had a lifetime's worth of training in throwing weapons. The only chance Batman would have is if he gets the drop on him, but if it ever came down to a gun fight, he's not making it out of it the winner unless the other guy runs out of ammunition, his gun jams (something that can be cleared fairly quickly if you have any basic knowledge of how the gun operates), or if the guy tries to stupidly engage him in melee like that idiot with the loaded shotgun did near the end of The Dark Knight Returns.
5. I'll admit that team operation are more effective, but they're generally against greater numbers, better trained and equipped soldiers.
You seem to think Batman tries to fight back in gunfights. That'd be stupid, he tries to avoid as he does in the comics/Arkham games. If caught and is fast enough, he has a number of distraction techniques at his disposal. The heat vision and training in predetermining moves should give the split-second advantage needed to distract/escape.
Team operation is more effective because it means you have more eyes watching your back, you have more guns arrayed against the enemy, more gear can be carried, and more options to fall back on in the event someone is incapacitated or falls to a grievous injury. Operating alone against an armed and numerically superior enemy is practically suicide no matter how badass you are in real life.
There are multiple instances where Batman fights through a group of armed thugs that are completely aware of him, the only reason why he gets away with it is because it's fiction. If the thugs in the comics and games were given realistic human perception and behavior, one guy with a gun could be considered a potentially insurmountable obstacle.
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