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    Bruce Wayne, who witnessed the murder of his billionaire parents as a child, swore to avenge their deaths. He trained extensively to achieve mental and physical perfection, mastering martial arts, detective skills, and criminal psychology. Costumed as a bat to prey on the fears of criminals, and utilizing a high-tech arsenal, he became the legendary Batman.

    Grant Morrison says "Batman is very Gay and a sexual deviant"

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    #1  Edited By QuickFlash

    "I got interested in the class element of Batman: He’s a rich man who beats up poor people. It’s quite a bizarre mission to go out at night dressed as a bat and punch the hell out of junkies. And then he goes home and lives in this mansion. There’s an aspirational quality to him—he’s an outlaw and he can buy anything. He has a new Batmobile every movie. He’s very plutonian in the sense that he’s wealthy and also in the sense that he’s sexually deviant. Gayness is built into Batman. I’m not using gay in the pejorative sense, but Batman is very, very gay. There’s just no denying it. Obviously as a fictional character he’s intended to be heterosexual, but the basis of the whole concept is utterly gay.I think that’s why people like it. All these women fancy him and they all wear fetish clothes and jump around rooftops to get to him. He doesn’t care—he’s more interested in hanging out with the old guy and the kid.”

    http://www.playboy.com/playground/entertainment/culture/the-super-psyche

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    MuyJingo

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    #2  Edited By MuyJingo

    Grant Morrison always has strange interpretations that no one shares

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    #3  Edited By DEGRAAF

    that is funny though

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    #4  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator

    Grant Morrison says a lot of things..most of which I don't pay attention to.

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    #5  Edited By WARLOCK2792

    He is so accurate....

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    #6  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

    Gay isn't exactly the word I'd use but the man has a point

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    @White Mage said:

    He is so accurate....

    sarcasm?

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    #8  Edited By TheBlueAngel93

    Batman's not gay.
     
    End of discussion.

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    #9  Edited By Blood1991

    So hes sayng while Batman isn't gay, the concept of which is character was built is gay?

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    #10  Edited By nandizzle

    I'd say he's more of a flamboyant emo goth misogynist. Women hurt him, so he stays away from them and just pumps and dumps them, the emo goth connection is obvious and he's flamboyant in having a bat costume etc...He's also a bit of a yuppie prick, but that's more of a mechanism to hide his bat qualities. Still love him though.

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    #11  Edited By WARLOCK2792

    @primepower53 said:

    @White Mage said:

    He is so accurate....

    sarcasm?

    Nope

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    #12  Edited By Primmaster64

    I always though Batman was just asexual.

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    #13  Edited By Funrush

    Well, if he likes men, then that just makes him bi-sexual right? Since he goes out with so many women, not to mention having a child with Talia.

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    #14  Edited By Chaos Burn

    @Funrush: Grant isn't saying Bruce Wayne is a homosexual... he is saying that the idea of Batman appears gay in the stereotypical sense

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    #15  Edited By dernman

    His reasons are idiotic.

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    #16  Edited By ReVamp

    @War Killer said:

    Batman's not gay. End of discussion.

    He didn't say he was though. In fact he explicitly said he was hetrosexual.

    @Dernman said:

    His reasons are idiotic.

    Explain. Pwease, that is.

    I, for one, can definitely see what he's saying. I don't agree with him, of course, but I think its definitely an interesting point of view. I just think most of the people are reading this too literally and aren't understand the context behind what he's trying to say. Or perhaps they are and they just don't agree, but I don't think that's the case.

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    #17  Edited By VampireSelektor

    @War Killer: I still don't understand why fans are so defensive about this subject. Homosexuality doesn't automatically hurt the character.

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    #18  Edited By TheBlueAngel93
    @ReVamp said:

    @War Killer said:

    Batman's not gay. End of discussion.

    He didn't say he was though. In fact he explicitly said he was hetrosexual.

    Maybe so, but the creator of this thread is obviously trying to use what Morrison said to suport the idea that Batman is gay, which for anyone who knows Batman this isn't true and it has been shown many times that he isn't, so really I don't see the point in even bringing up the issue.
    @VampireSelektor said:

    @War Killer: I still don't understand why fans are so defensive about this subject. Homosexuality doesn't automatically hurt the character.

     I personally as a fan and a person don't support homosexuality, but that's not my reason for stating what I said.
     
    But to say that it wouldn't hurt the character isn't true because to change a character in a such a drastic manor for no real reason would hurt the character. The fact is that Batman, Bruce Wayne, isn't gay and if people would read the comic books instead of one writer's opinion then this would be obvious.
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    #19  Edited By ReVamp

    @War Killer: Yeah, I see where your coming from. I just wanted to point out that Morrison's quote may be misinterperted and happened to use yours because it seemed to best.

    And agreed on the "turning him homosexual" thing. I'm all for what happened to Shatterstar, love that character even more now, but its completely different.

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    #20  Edited By RedOwl_1

    He's NOT gay. END

    And I really care a F*ck what Grant Morrison (or anybody) thinks about he.

    Also I think on Morrison like a very little version of Van Gogh, he made amazing stuff but How he ended? ..... nuts

    @Primmaster64 said:

    I always though Batman was just asexual.

    LOL.... Batman....yes but let's talk about Bruce Wayne's life......

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    #21  Edited By B'Town

    Well. Hmph.

    There are very good reasons why I love Batman, and the opinions in the article only serve to enhance his awesomeness.

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    #22  Edited By VampireSelektor

    @War Killer: I don't think Morrison is saying that Batman is gay, but that an element of queerness exists around the character and his supporting cast, a true observation in my opinion.

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    #23  Edited By jrock85

    Damn

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    #24  Edited By Hatutzeraze

    @War Killer said:

    @ReVamp said:

    @War Killer said:

    Batman's not gay. End of discussion.

    He didn't say he was though. In fact he explicitly said he was hetrosexual.

    Maybe so, but the creator of this thread is obviously trying to use what Morrison said to suport the idea that Batman is gay

    I don't really see where you are getting that from.

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    #25  Edited By Aiden Cross

    He has a point.

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    #26  Edited By Bleeble

    I'll just leave these here.

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    #27  Edited By sinestro_GL

    I think Morrison has a man-crush on someone...

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    #28  Edited By John Valentine

    @MuyJingo said:

    Grant Morrison always has strange interpretations that no one shares

    This. Silver/Gold Age Batman is, by modern standards, extremely gay, though.

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    #29  Edited By HolySerpent

    Superman>>>>>>>batman

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    #30  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
    @RedOwl_1: He never said he was gay
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    #31  Edited By Funrush

    @Bleeble said:

    I'll just leave these here.

    What are those from?

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    #32  Edited By DarthShap

    Obviously Batman is not gay, Morrison knows it and it has not stopped him from writing some of the best Batman stories and in my mind the greatest run in his 70 years of publication history.

    That being said, he sorts of has a point. In the 50's, Bat-Woman and Bat-Girl were created to make the dynamic duo look more heterosexual because three men living in a mansion raised questions. However, the two woman ended up harassing the two who did not seem very interested in their charms.

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    #33  Edited By Dark_Vengeance_

    Are really back to this again, I though we cleared this a while ago.

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    #34  Edited By sj_esposito

    Whenever this topic comes up, there's always a crazy anti-homosexual backlash from fanboys. That's what Grant wants. Just imagine if he reveals Bruce to be a homosexual before his run is finished...

    For all you who seem to be so irked by this: would it really be that bad? Would you stop reading?

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    #35  Edited By TDK_1997  Online

    Not true.There is just nothing gay about him.

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    #36  Edited By VampireSelektor

    @TDK_1997: So the 40's stories featuring Batman and Robin sleeping in the same bed and getting massages together couldn't possibly be read as gay? A WASP (White Anglo Saxon Protestant) man prowling rooftops with his colorful, Eastern European-descended, leg-baring houseboy couldn't be read as gay?

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    #37  Edited By TDK_1997  Online

    @VampireSelektor: It could but it shouldn't be considered as really gay or Batman being one of the most gay characters.

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    #38  Edited By Nova`Prime`

    Didn't really need Grant Morrison to point this out.

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    #39  Edited By feebadger

    @lykopis said:

    All I can think about as I read this was "The Boys"...

    I thought exactly the same. We must share the same Garth Ennis portion of our brains.

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    #40  Edited By NlGHTCRAWLER

    What?! Bruce is a heterosexual pimp. And Morrison is creepy for assuming that Batman has sexual relations with his son/teenage partner and senior butler who is basically his father. Also, he's Scottish.... so theres that too.

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    #41  Edited By VampireSelektor

    @NlGHTCRAWLER: He isn't assuming anything, he's just acknowledging homosexual overtones in the initial Batman and Robin stories. No one calls Wonder Woman a dominatrix after acknowledging BDSM as the inspiration for her character.

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    #42  Edited By RainEffect

    God I want to punch Morrison sometimes. He's a great writer, but he's just a nutjob outside of his craft.

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    #43  Edited By BatteredArmor

    heh......heh heh..............ha ha ha ha ha..................................hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...hee, Morrison you so craaaazy......still for once he kinda has a point

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    #44  Edited By bamaboykmb

    Is Morrisson the first to say this?

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    #45  Edited By MuyJingo

    Batman is obsessed. That explains the costume, motivation and reluctance to engage in a relationship.

    There is nothing gay about the character unless you choose to interpret it that way, which requires effort.

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    #46  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
    @Primmaster64 said:
    I always though Batman was just asexual.
    You've really never read a Batman comic before have you? 
     
     
     
     Also, people are completely missing the point of what Morrison was saying.  
    Taken on the surface, without any context or knowledge of the character, Batman is a guy who dressed in black tights, spends most of his time with a young man who also wears garish tights and is waited on by an older gentleman. Again, without any knowledge of why this is, it sounds like a deviant homosexual fantasy.  
     
    (I say deviant homosexual fantasy in the respect that it's a deviant fantasy which just happens to be homosexual in nature, not that homosexuals are deviants). 
     
    The way Morrison is talking, all superheroes are "pretty gay". Superman flies around in bright tights only to have daily stare-downs with the rich and handsome Lex Luthor.  
     
    Looking at it from a layman's perspective; Wolverine has lived for centuries and been in multiple military forces, there is no way he hasn't gotten with at least one guy. Again no context, he now wears tight clothing and spends most of his time with other men in tight clothing who call themselves "the X-Men". He is literally two X's away from a gay porn film.  
     
     
    Batman, Superman, Wolverine, none of them are gay. That's not what Morrison is saying. People need to calm down and actually read the article.  
     
    Yes, I know how hypocritical that last sentence was. 
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    #47  Edited By jrock85

    I'm surprised that there aren't 400 comments on this thread by now.

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    #48  Edited By daredevil21134

    Hahahahahahahaha.That was funny,go Morrison.

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    #49  Edited By umbrafeline

    i have this issue. i only read playboy for the articles ^_^ grant also says that for about 4-5 years he was a transvestite and was visted by aliens

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    #50  Edited By Bleeble

    @umbrafeline said:

    i have this issue. i only read playboy for the articles ^_^ grant also says that for about 4-5 years he was a transvestite and was visted by aliens

    Him too? I thought it was just me.

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