I'm pasting the portions of the Snyder interview from the other thread I made
Let’s talk a little about Duke Thomas, who’s been the focus of the “Cursed Wheel” back up stories for the duration of “All Star.” This issue left him in a bit of a tenuous spot — can you tease what readers should expect to see from Duke and his role in the Bat Family in the future?
Definitely. Duke’s played a big role for us in terms of supporting cast for a while and we want people to get used to seeing him with the Bat Family. I get worried sometimes that throwing somebody into the mix in Gotham without a “home” — no matter how cool the character may be — they can kind of wind up vanishing.
With Duke, it’s about long discussions with Geoff Johns and DC about finding the most viable place to land him. Is putting him in the mantle of a known character of somebody else that exists like a Robin or a Nightwing? Or is it trying something original?
We veered towards the latter, so with the next issue, you’ll see a big change in terms of his status and his mission. It’s going to lead into the story I’m doing with Greg Capullo. [Duke] evolves within that story, and you’ll see his role within the Family really crystallize at the beginning of the event [this summer].
So [the “Cursed Wheel”] is going to end with a bit of a cliffhanger. You’ll see the transformation of him into a character will have a very distinct role in Gotham, and with the rest of the Family; and also reveal things about some mysteries going on around the DC Universe as well.
I’ve always really liked “Lark” for him, and that name got a little shout-out in this issue.
Yeah, I do too! Not to talk too “inside baseball” here, but the fact is that I’m really interested in giving a new writer [from my class] a chance with him, and an artist. So the concern I had with [the name Lark] was pointed out by DC, which I think is logical. It’s that that name doesn’t have quite the “teeth” for a series. It doesn’t sound…y’know, [Laughs] “Let’s go get ‘em!”
For as much as I like [the name], it needs a little more “muscle,” according to [editorial], and I would agree with that. So, we’ll see! These are the discussions we have long, long talks and lots of things on the board over.
The takeaway from it is this: At this point in my career, it means a lot more to me to try and create new characters and land them in ways that open up avenues for other writers and artists to drive in. I think [Duke] will get new kinds of stories. If he works [solo], nothing would make me happier. If he doesn’t, he’ll always have a home with the Bat Family.
In 2013 GMO gave an interview to IGN, it was one of his final interviews regarding his Batman run, some portions:
IGN: I think Damian has been a great example of showing that a character can age and evolve beyond the usual accepted status quo of superhero comics. What are the challenges of accomplishing something like that as a writer operating within the structure of a larger universe?
Morrison: For me, it was always to keep in mind that I had one Batman story to tell, and this is how it worked, and he was a story arc, and here’s how it would play out. I always knew I was going to give Batman back kind of like, “This is the way I found the guy.” He’s got his cave, he’s got his butler, he’s got his Batmobile, he’s got his allies, and that’s it, you know? I didn’t want to leave the kid for future writers who may not want to have to deal with that stuff. That’s why Damian’s death was always going to wind down my run, because I wanted to take away anything that could date Batman or trap Batman within a certain set of circumstances.
I tried to bring him up and give him an arc and then take him away within the context of my run. I don’t want the other writers to be stuck with something I’d come up with and was intrinsic to what I was doing. So I kind of kept him to my stuff and there are a lot of other writers who have done great stuff with Damian, but the whole arc of who he was, what he became, and how he’d wind up, was hopefully contained in my Batman run.
Amazing right? the difference in mentality is so striking that I just had to make a thread about it. Morrison literally didn't care about what happened to Damian after him. The fact Damian is back and is enjoying a successful run is...I honestly have no words for it, remarkable maybe. Duke on the other hand...well I have no words for him either. Snyder keeps trying and trying and trying and its just not working. If Duke was going to fly then he would have flown by now, somethings are not in the hands of creators no matter how well intentioned and talented they may well be. Some things are just a matter of luck, timing and fate.
Maybe one day another creator will come up with a cool Black sidekick for Bruce but Duke IS NOT that character and the only thing he does is potentially hurt that eventual character. When it's all said and done DC is going to blame Duke not taking off on the fans and their lack of interest in Black characters. They're going to look at all the times they pushed him and conclude that people dont care for such characters. They're gonna say "oh we gave him an ongoing, we gave him All Star Batman, we ignored Robin from the Batman books, we had him written by hot shots like Snyder and King, we had him star in an event but he still couldn't take off".
Snyder, if you're looking,please just stop.
The bolded part is particularly interesting because that's exactly how I feel about the current Batline. Tynion's book in particular is already dated and so is Night of the Monster Men event. In comparison Wagner's Monster Men from 2005 feels more modern and all because it didn't have to deal with Spoilers and Dukes and Gotham Girls.