Predict the Batman vs Superman: DOJ Box Office

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#1 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Predictions away.

My prediction: $1.4 billion

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#2 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23224 posts) - - Show Bio

1.7 billion

Justice League will cross the 2 billion mark

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#3 Posted by darkman61288 (972 posts) - - Show Bio

800 million. It is being released in March. And I think it will be viewed as being too dark.

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#4 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

1.7 billion

Justice League will cross the 2 billion mark

$1.7 Billion is reasonable.

TDK and TDKR grossed $1.05 Billion and $1.08 billion without the use of 3D. I can only imagine that with the name 'Batman' in the title and 3D, it can gross more.

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#5 Edited by EyeDCyou (7512 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

1.7 billion

Justice League will cross the 2 billion mark

1.7 Billion is reasonable.

TDK and TDKR grossed $1.05 Billion and $1.08 billion without the use of 3D. I can only imagine that with the name 'Batman' in the title and 3D, it can gross more.

I hate 3D :( But it does bring in more viewers.

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#6 Posted by Strider1992 (18517 posts) - - Show Bio

920Mil

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#7 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

800 million. It is being released in March. And I think it will be viewed as being too dark.

It may be dark but it'll have heavy marketing on the toy line.

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#8 Posted by MAZAHS117 (13593 posts) - - Show Bio

1.1 or 1.2 bill

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#9 Posted by buttersdaman000 (23224 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue? I don't know anyone who really cares enough about it to buy the $20 ticket.

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#10 Edited by EyeDCyou (7512 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to say... 1.5 Billion.

*EDIT*

I'm going to change my prediction. I will say that BvS will gross 1.2 billion.

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#11 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92 said:

920Mil

Why under the billion? TDK and TDKR grossed past the 1 billion mark. Batman vs Superman has the benefit of:

  • Steam from Nolan films
  • Batman in the title
  • The concept of Batman AND Superman in the same film will draw people in
  • 3D
@buttersdaman000 said:

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue? I don't know anyone who really cares enough about it to buy the $20 ticket.

Pretty sure it does.

The younger kids opt for 3D, no matter how meaningless it often is (in my opinion, 3D is only good/great for films fully intended for 3D).

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#12 Posted by HumanRocket (11234 posts) - - Show Bio

Prediction on just the ticket sales and nothing more...970 million.

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#13 Edited by MAZAHS117 (13593 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue?

I think it depends on the film. Movies like Avatar, TRON or Pacific Rim that have these larger than life visuals get good money from 3d tix and IMAX but I don't really see a movie like BvS benefiting from it that much.

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#14 Posted by EyeDCyou (7512 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue? I don't know anyone who really cares enough about it to buy the $20 ticket.

Pretty sure it does.

The younger kids opt for 3D, no matter how meaningless it often is (in my opinion, 3D can only be reserved for films fully intended for 3D).

Some people go see 3D so that they can see it in IMAX. I have a buddy who sees EVERYTHING in Imax. Even if it is 3D. He claims it's worth it.

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#15 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@buttersdaman000 said:

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue?

I think it depends on the film. Movies like Avatar, TRON or Pacific Rim that have these larger than life visuals get good money from 3d tix and IMAX but I don't really see a movie like BvS benefiting from it that much.

The Avengers did, IIRC.

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@frozen said:

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue? I don't know anyone who really cares enough about it to buy the $20 ticket.

Pretty sure it does.

The younger kids opt for 3D, no matter how meaningless it often is (in my opinion, 3D can only be reserved for films fully intended for 3D).

Some people go see 3D so that they can see it in IMAX. I have a buddy who sees EVERYTHING in Imax. Even if it is 3D. He claims it's worth it.

I honestly think Digital IMAX is much better. But IMAX 3D can be deceptively useful for gaining $

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#16 Posted by EyeDCyou (7512 posts) - - Show Bio
@frozen said:

@eyedcyou said:

@frozen said:

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue? I don't know anyone who really cares enough about it to buy the $20 ticket.

Pretty sure it does.

The younger kids opt for 3D, no matter how meaningless it often is (in my opinion, 3D can only be reserved for films fully intended for 3D).

Some people go see 3D so that they can see it in IMAX. I have a buddy who sees EVERYTHING in Imax. Even if it is 3D. He claims it's worth it.

I honestly think Digital IMAX is much better. But IMAX 3D can be deceptively useful for gaining $

Oh it's wayyyy better. Trust me, I don't think you'll find someone that hates 3D more than me. But generally, if a film offers 3D, there isn't a digital IMAX option. That's why I love Chris Nolan so much. He understands that 3D can detract from the viewing experience.

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#17 Posted by SaintWildcard (22102 posts) - - Show Bio

It will pass the 750 million mark easily

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#18 Edited by Uncanny_Doom (845 posts) - - Show Bio

Lots of these predictions seem extremely high for a movie with mixed and indifferent public opinion, and no trailer.

I think 800 million is a solid number at this point in time. There is no reason to believe Batman vs Superman will be a billion dollar movie or doing Avengers numbers. It has a bad, non-summer release date and it's long-term revenue will be killed off by Captain America and X-Men.

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#19 Posted by MAZAHS117 (13593 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@shazam117 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@frozen:

Does 3D really bring in any revenue?

I think it depends on the film. Movies like Avatar, TRON or Pacific Rim that have these larger than life visuals get good money from 3d tix and IMAX but I don't really see a movie like BvS benefiting from it that much.

The Avengers did, IIRC.

True. I just don't know if the 3d/IMAX hype is as strong as it was 3-4 years ago. BvS will make bank off the title alone, and I'm sure 3d/IMAX tix will sell for it, but it just seems like (and I could be wrong) that most people will settle for standard showings unless it's a film that gets complemented by veiwing it in 3d/IMAX (i.e..Episode VII, TRON, Avatar etc.)

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#20 Posted by EyeDCyou (7512 posts) - - Show Bio

@uncanny_doom: Do you know how many bad movies have passed the billion dollar mark? Hell, Transformers passed it and it's still in theaters. Even if BvS is bad (I sure hope not) it will pass the billion dollar mark.

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#21 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@eyedcyou: I love that he was against 3D and opted for IMAX. Really enhanced the visuals (which created more benefits). Interstellar I think is being shot in Digital IMAX, I wish more films were made for IMAX but I guess it doesn't rake in the money 3D does.

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It will pass the 750 million mark easily

That's a very low mark for it even be touted at.

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#22 Posted by rogueshadow (29589 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not sure how good it will be, we know next to nothing about it. Only negatives for me are that Gadot is a terrible actress and Jesse Eisenberg is a mediocre one, but they are secondary components for this film.

If it's bad I still think it will scrape a billion, about 1.1. If it's good, about 1.4 billion, if it's amazing and has a great advertising campaign maybe 1.8 billion?

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#23 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@uncanny_doom said:

Lots of these predictions seem extremely high for a movie with mixed and indifferent public opinion, and no trailer.

I think 800 million is a solid number at this point in time. There is no reason to believe Batman vs Superman will be a billion dollar movie or doing Avengers numbers. It has a bad, non-summer release date and it's long-term revenue will be killed off by Captain America and X-Men.

Captain America beats the film with both Batman and Superman....

Yeah....no

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#24 Posted by EyeDCyou (7512 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: It is. Nolan doesn't shoot in 3D and he never will. He also doesn't shoot in digital... he only uses film.

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#25 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
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@frozen: It is. Nolan doesn't shoot in 3D and he never will. He also doesn't shoot in digital... he only uses film.

Thanks for the correction. I got confused with the term.

Yes, shooting in film is truly glorious.

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#26 Posted by The_Kidd (12584 posts) - - Show Bio

750m-1b

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#27 Edited by SaintWildcard (22102 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: I'm a glass half empty guy. If it passes the billion dollar mark I'll go streaking out of joy and rub it in the face of MoS haters

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#28 Posted by johnfrank120 (6702 posts) - - Show Bio

Around 1.4 billion

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#29 Edited by Uncanny_Doom (845 posts) - - Show Bio

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@uncanny_doom: Do you know how many bad movies have passed the billion dollar mark? Hell, Transformers passed it and it's still in theaters. Even if BvS is bad (I sure hope not) it will pass the billion dollar mark.

Transformers had a huge hype machine from the moment it was announced, and it is also a property that does not have to deliver quality to satisfy people. Six out of the 19 billion dollar movies aren't good, but many of them are sequels or had insanely high quality marketing to create positive hype.

@frozen said:

@uncanny_doom said:

Lots of these predictions seem extremely high for a movie with mixed and indifferent public opinion, and no trailer.

I think 800 million is a solid number at this point in time. There is no reason to believe Batman vs Superman will be a billion dollar movie or doing Avengers numbers. It has a bad, non-summer release date and it's long-term revenue will be killed off by Captain America and X-Men.

Captain America beats the film with both Batman and Superman....

Yeah....no

This isn't comics we're talking about. Captain America is already proven to be a bigger box office draw than Superman and all but the last two uber hyped (and lived up to their hype) Batman movies. There's a reason why Warner Bros. moved their release date to avoid having to directly compete with Captain America 3. The reception for Winter Soldier was overwhelmingly positive which carries into the next movie, along with benefits from the hype machine that Avengers helps create. Iron Man didn't break the billion mark until after Avengers, keep that in mind.

I also didn't say Cap would beat the film, even though it very well could. It comes out later, and will have it's own hype to go with it that will keep people from repeat viewing BvS in theaters which has a lot to do with a movie making box office history.

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#30 Posted by EyeDCyou (7512 posts) - - Show Bio

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@uncanny_doom: Do you know how many bad movies have passed the billion dollar mark? Hell, Transformers passed it and it's still in theaters. Even if BvS is bad (I sure hope not) it will pass the billion dollar mark.

Transformers had a huge hype machine from the moment it was announced, and it is also a property that does not have to deliver quality to satisfy people. Six out of the 19 billion dollar movies aren't good, and many of them are sequels or had insanely high quality marketing to create positive hype.

True, but BvS has a ton of hype as well. The movie doesn't come out for over a year, so once it gets closer and we get trailers and what not, you'll see how much more the hype will grow.

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#31 Posted by Uncanny_Doom (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@eyedcyou said:

@uncanny_doom said:

@eyedcyou said:

@uncanny_doom: Do you know how many bad movies have passed the billion dollar mark? Hell, Transformers passed it and it's still in theaters. Even if BvS is bad (I sure hope not) it will pass the billion dollar mark.

Transformers had a huge hype machine from the moment it was announced, and it is also a property that does not have to deliver quality to satisfy people. Six out of the 19 billion dollar movies aren't good, and many of them are sequels or had insanely high quality marketing to create positive hype.

True, but BvS has a ton of hype as well. The movie doesn't come out for over a year, so once it gets closer and we get trailers and what not, you'll see how much more the hype will grow.

It has a completely regular level of movie buzz right now, which is low for a superhero movie.

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#32 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@eyedcyou said:

@uncanny_doom said:

@eyedcyou said:

@uncanny_doom: Do you know how many bad movies have passed the billion dollar mark? Hell, Transformers passed it and it's still in theaters. Even if BvS is bad (I sure hope not) it will pass the billion dollar mark.

Transformers had a huge hype machine from the moment it was announced, and it is also a property that does not have to deliver quality to satisfy people. Six out of the 19 billion dollar movies aren't good, and many of them are sequels or had insanely high quality marketing to create positive hype.

True, but BvS has a ton of hype as well. The movie doesn't come out for over a year, so once it gets closer and we get trailers and what not, you'll see how much more the hype will grow.

It has a completely regular level of movie buzz right now, which is low for a superhero movie.

How?

It already has more buzz than Avengers 2.

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#33 Edited by Erik (32502 posts) - - Show Bio

It's going to be the highest grossing film of all time. Even after being adjusted for inflation. So whatever that is.

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#34 Posted by Uncanny_Doom (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:
@uncanny_doom said:

@eyedcyou said:

@uncanny_doom said:

@eyedcyou said:

@uncanny_doom: Do you know how many bad movies have passed the billion dollar mark? Hell, Transformers passed it and it's still in theaters. Even if BvS is bad (I sure hope not) it will pass the billion dollar mark.

Transformers had a huge hype machine from the moment it was announced, and it is also a property that does not have to deliver quality to satisfy people. Six out of the 19 billion dollar movies aren't good, and many of them are sequels or had insanely high quality marketing to create positive hype.

True, but BvS has a ton of hype as well. The movie doesn't come out for over a year, so once it gets closer and we get trailers and what not, you'll see how much more the hype will grow.

It has a completely regular level of movie buzz right now, which is low for a superhero movie.

How?

It already has more buzz than Avengers 2.

Mixed leaning toward negative opinions on the internet due to casting and carry-over mixed/negative reception from Man of Steel. General public perception seems to be indifferent about it because it's not Nolan Batman and that's how people are early on with reboots/recasting. The positive buzz it has right now is pretty much just people being hopeful. Avengers 2 has different buzz because being a billion dollar sequel, the movie has a lot more buzz in the real world than the internet. I know I'm going to see Avengers 2. I know I'm going to buy a ticket. I don't feel any need to talk about it on the internet or wonder if it will be good or not, because I'm seeing it already based on what the previous movies/universe has delivered on, and I'm not the only one. BvS doesn't have that luxury.

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#35 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

It's going to be the highest grossing film of all time.Even after being adjusted for inflation. So whatever that is.

This is also feasible.

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#36 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

It's going to be the highest grossing film of all time. Even after being adjusted for inflation. So whatever that is.

Seriously doubt that, but it's definitely going to gross at least 1 billion.

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#37 Posted by Erik (32502 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

It's going to be the highest grossing film of all time. Even after being adjusted for inflation. So whatever that is.

Seriously doubt that, but it's definitely going to gross at least 1 billion.

Avengers took 3rd place with 1.5 bil and it's not nearly as popular as Batman or Superman.

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#38 Posted by Mrnoital (8471 posts) - - Show Bio

@uncanny_doom: obviously it doesn't have a commercial yet, it comes out in almost 2 years

and yeah, the first captain did sooo much better than mos (ca:tfa=$370 mil, mos=$668 mil)

oh wait, worldwide, supes first movie almost doubled caps first movie

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#39 Edited by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

@matthewparker said:

@erik said:

It's going to be the highest grossing film of all time. Even after being adjusted for inflation. So whatever that is.

Seriously doubt that, but it's definitely going to gross at least 1 billion.

Avengers took 3rd place with 1.5 bil and it's not nearly as popular as Batman or Superman.

The Avengers as a whole are more popular then both Superman and batman (at least at the boxoffice), one could even argue Iron Man's more popular (at the boxoffice) since Iron Man 3 outgrossed Batman Begins, TDK, TDKR, and MoS. I don't doubt BvS will out gross Avengers, and maybe it will even out gross Avengers 2, but i just don't see it making more than 2.7 billion.

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@matthewparker: The Avengers is not more popular. The TDK trilogy had no 3D; whereas Iron Man did.

Placing Batman and Superman, two of the most iconic characters in the SAME film is a milestone, opposed to having them individual. There needn't even be a buildup (as Avengers had). People who have no interest in comic books or perhaps even comic book movies will watch it solely because two of the most iconic fictional characters will share screen time in a live action film.

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@matthewparker: The Avengers is not more popular. The TDK trilogy had no 3D; whereas Iron Man did.

Placing Batman and Superman, two of the most iconic characters in the SAME film is a milestone, opposed to having them individual. There needn't even be a buildup (as Avengers had). People who have no interest in comic books or perhaps even comic book movies will watch it solely because two of the most iconic fictional characters will share screen time in a live action film.

Sure, i never said it wasn't i just don't think it will gross more than 2.7 billion.

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#42 Posted by DrF8 (3309 posts) - - Show Bio

I think it can even pass the 2 bilion mark. Justice league will most certainly pass 2 bilion

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#43 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen also i'm curious to know, was MoS shown in 3D?

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#44 Posted by Erik (32502 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@matthewparker: The Avengers is not more popular. The TDK trilogy had no 3D; whereas Iron Man did.

Placing Batman and Superman, two of the most iconic characters in the SAME film is a milestone, opposed to having them individual. There needn't even be a buildup (as Avengers had). People who have no interest in comic books or perhaps even comic book movies will watch it solely because two of the most iconic fictional characters will share screen time in a live action film.

Sure, i never said it wasn't i just don't think it will gross more than 2.7 billion.

I don't see why not. Dawn of Justice will apparently also have 3D, which will boost its gross.

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#45 Edited by Uncanny_Doom (845 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

@matthewparker said:

@erik said:

It's going to be the highest grossing film of all time. Even after being adjusted for inflation. So whatever that is.

Seriously doubt that, but it's definitely going to gross at least 1 billion.

Avengers took 3rd place with 1.5 bil and it's not nearly as popular as Batman or Superman.

What planet are you living on? The best Batman movies of all time were marketed better than Avengers, one of them is better than Avengers, and Avengers still outgrossed them.

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@uncanny_doom:

and yeah, the first captain did sooo much better than mos (ca:tfa=$370 mil, mos=$668 mil)

oh wait, worldwide, supes first movie almost doubled caps first movie

Man of Steel should have grossed more than Cap's first movie just based on the situations around their release.

@matthewparker said:

@frozen also i'm curious to know, was MoS shown in 3D?

Yes, it was.

@frozen said:

@matthewparker: The Avengers is not more popular. The TDK trilogy had no 3D; whereas Iron Man did.

Placing Batman and Superman, two of the most iconic characters in the SAME film is a milestone, opposed to having them individual. There needn't even be a buildup (as Avengers had). People who have no interest in comic books or perhaps even comic book movies will watch it solely because two of the most iconic fictional characters will share screen time in a live action film.

3D is a profit boost, but it's not a 500 thousand dollar profit boost. TDK movies were also shown in IMAX.

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#47 Posted by SymbioticSpider-Man (3595 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably around 900 million.

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#48 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

@matthewparker said:

@frozen said:

@matthewparker: The Avengers is not more popular. The TDK trilogy had no 3D; whereas Iron Man did.

Placing Batman and Superman, two of the most iconic characters in the SAME film is a milestone, opposed to having them individual. There needn't even be a buildup (as Avengers had). People who have no interest in comic books or perhaps even comic book movies will watch it solely because two of the most iconic fictional characters will share screen time in a live action film.

Sure, i never said it wasn't i just don't think it will gross more than 2.7 billion.

I don't see why not. Dawn of Justice will apparently also have 3D, which will boost its gross.

Well we will see, at this point all we can do is speculate. I'm sticking with my earlier statement that it won't gross more than 2.7 billion.

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#49 Posted by Erik (32502 posts) - - Show Bio

@erik said:

@matthewparker said:

@erik said:

It's going to be the highest grossing film of all time. Even after being adjusted for inflation. So whatever that is.

Seriously doubt that, but it's definitely going to gross at least 1 billion.

Avengers took 3rd place with 1.5 bil and it's not nearly as popular as Batman or Superman.

What planet are you living on? The best Batman movies of all time were marketed better than Avengers, one of them is better than Avengers, and Avengers still outgrossed them.

You should build up to your emotional extremes in order to avoid looking like a lunatic. This was not a discussion about quality, speedy. This was only about money. Avengers has never been as popular as Batman or Superman. This is the first time both of these iconic characters are going to be... assembled in one big-budget film. I would bet you your next anger-management counseling session that Dawn of Justice is going to kill Avengers' gross.

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#50 Posted by MatthewParker (4562 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrnoital said:

@uncanny_doom: obviously it doesn't have a commercial yet, it comes out in almost 2 years

and yeah, the first captain did sooo much better than mos (ca:tfa=$370 mil, mos=$668 mil)

oh wait, worldwide, supes first movie almost doubled caps first movie

MoS isn't superman's first movie...

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