Batman And Robin #1, Good Comic Or Gimmick?
Something that I haven't made obvious, I'm a big fan of Batman. Now we have the "death" of Bruce Wayne. Is this all a gimmick just to get readers riled up and to launch a new series? We know (most likely) that Bruce will return someday. What will this new 'era' bring us? Is it possible that this will be the new status quo? Remember, there was quite some time when Dick Grayson was Robin. Eventually he abandoned that identity. There's no way he'd go back, right? So maybe this new Batman will be the Batman from now on? How does this comic rate?
Even though there's been some talk already, this is pretty much a spoiler-free video, and I'm not just talking about Stephanie Brown.
There you go. That's what I thought. This is the next chapter. From the preview at the end, it looks like it's going to be an interesting ride.
Yes, I actually watched the video for once.... lunch break...
Now, I haven't read the book yes, I'm picking it up tonight, but the art looks amazing. Morrison's writing rarely lets me down, at least on Batman, and we have a new team. How could you not want to read this if you claim to be a fan of Batman? I'm currently re-reading Knightfall right now, preparing for this book... And like G-Man said, Knightfall was incredibly gimmicky, you knew Jean would only be the Bat for a short amount of time and Bruce would take over again. Right now, Bruce is no where to be seen and I'm almost positive we won't see him for YEARS.
Why do I say this?
When's the last time a MAJOR hero died in a crisis event?
How long was he dead for?
Over 20 years.
Will Bruce be gone for 20 years? No clue, I don't own a Daloreon. What I do know is, is that this is what we have for Batman right now. Why not try and get excited about it? It's a fresh start! I was and am a HUGE Steve Rogers fan, he died, I was a little saddened, but in my opinion, the book is better with Bucky as Cap. I think the same will happen with B&R.
Time will tell.
I liked Frank Quietly's artwork on JLA: Earth-2. There's a uniqueness to it - like Perez, Jim Lee, Alex Ross - where it stands out and it doesn't look like anyone else's work. I like Phil Jimenez, but his work looks so much like Perez's.
The reason I was going to skip this was that I hadn't really read anything going on in Batman since Hush. I likedHush, I wish it had been made a little more clear that it was Tommy that was Hush. (Spoiler alert: Bruce Wayne's childhood friend, Tommy, is Hush!) The reviews that I had seen of Hush, Batman, R.I.P. and Battle for the Cowl were not good. And to bring Jason Todd back...And, to have Bruce have a son...
But this is like Wally becoming The Flash at the end of Crisis on Infinite Earths, or Kyle becoming the Green Lantern; or Guy becoming Green Lantern; or John Stewart becoming Green Lantern or that Elseworlds story where Bruce becomes Green Lantern like in the Sinestro War...oh, wait, in Elseworlds things happen that probably shouldn't or couldn't happen...and that Sinestro thing was only temporary...
Interesting that Batman and Robin has the banner Batman: Reborn. Following Green Lantern: Rebirth and The Flash: Rebirth...
I think it is a gimmick. A gimmick designed to make Batman and Robin interesting. I guess we'll see how well it works...
In the first "unedited" version of this video, I actually made a long reference to Steve Rogers and Bucky. I always admired Cap for being able to kick (pretty much) anyone's butt without having superpowers. When he "died" I was bummed but not pissed. I'm enjoying the Bucky stories and I'm sure I'll enjoy these "new" Batman ones as well.
Even tought I never really like much of the character who is now the this new Robin, I really think this new duo can work out really good: One has expirience the other has the brains! - That's a classic team-up. I love the fact the kid is the one who knows how to fix stuff and knows the takes care of everything technical.
I just complain about one thing in this issue, even though it was cool to setup things, I felt that nothing really happens.....
I really think that being spoiler free is a bit unecessary now. Anyone who gives "two" about Bats already knows who the new ROBIN is. As well as the new Bats. I'm just saying.(but I'll still refrain)
If anyone has seen the movie Lucky Number Slevin, there's a story told in the beginning of the film giving an explaination of a scenario to what Bruce Willis' character refers to as a "Kansas City Shuffle". I am feeling that is what Grant Morrison is doing. Making us look right, when everything is coming from the left. Us, as readers and fans are too concerned with it not being "the real Batman" when he's eventually going to come back and be better and more brooding than ever. Morrison was mainly behind the "death" of Bruce Wayne/Batman, and this series right here is probably what's going to bring him back, eventually.
I am not a Batman fan. I've always been loyal to Superman. I love superpowers and Supes is, all in all, the greatest superhero on Earth. However, hardcore Batman fans can say the same thing about Bats, only instead of powers, he's using his noggin to be the greatest hero/detective on Earth. The reason I say that is because now that we're getting this "fresh" take on Batman, I am loving it. Up to near the end of R.I.P., I had about had it with the same ol' Batman. Boring. Now that there's the new line up, it's great because the readers don't know what in the hell to expect. Will the new duo be a successful a team? I think that the new Bats is going to have to prove himself to young Robin IV.
I liked the issue. I wish Quietly was going to be draw more issues in consession, but three is better than none. I thought I read somewhere that he would be back for another run down the road but I may have some facts mixed up. One problem I did have was the lack of dialogue. For me, with a writer as talented and raved about as Grant Morrison, you'd think he'd give you a lot of good descriptive dialogue. Not saying the job wasn't done, I just think guys like him and Mark Millar should give us a little more to read with every issue.
Here's my problem with Frank Quitely's art: When he draws the faces of the male characters, they all are way too square, and he draws them looking they're bloated, and pursing their lips. His pencils seem rushed to me, BUT when he draws things like buildings, scenery, vehicles, yeah, pretty good, and the action scenes, yes, real good.
Also, you CAN identify his work because of his style, I will admit he isn't another Jim Lee or John Byrne clone. However, is it a good thing?
Perhaps I am being nitpicky.
Will I get this one? I don't know, I'm having a hard time justifying a reason to do it.
Many people can't pick up their books until the weekend, or even next week.... Friday is a BIG comic pick up day for many people... At least let the weekend roll by before the spoiler machine comes out
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DANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-NANA-BATMAAAN!!! (sorry I had to do that)
also i dont think that they toned batman enough, it likes like a slightly muscular man from what i have seen. Another thought that i have is that tim said he woul leave town, so i think that he will become nightwing or red robin. However when bruce does eventually show his face and probably become the bat again damian will stay robin dick will become nightwing and tim will be red robin, thats just my thoughts.
Thought the issue was fun. Thought Battle for the Cowl was largely crap, but this series has the makings to be good. My only hope for it is that they give it a chance to run. Eventually they'll bring Bruce back. They will. I just hope that they wait a few years though instead of just dumping him back in there when Batman 3 comes out.
Do we know yet what the heck happened to Tim? Are we supposed to be guessing that he's Red Robin?
Sorry guys but I do not think this issue deserves a 5 out of 5, granted I did love Damian he did just what I expected him to do, but Nightwing really needs to step up his game, he is more than ready to be batman, so their is no reason he should be doubting himself. Its was more like a 4 out of 5 once u wear the cowl u shouldn't question it, loved the artwork by the way.
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