Why isn't Silver Surfer an Avenger?

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#1 Posted by White Phantom (1835 posts) - - Show Bio

The Avengers are Earth's Mightiest Heroes right? So why isn't Silver Surfer one of them?

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#2 Posted by fesak (8629 posts) - - Show Bio

He is an alien..

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#3 Posted by Nighthunter (29574 posts) - - Show Bio

besides if he was there they wouldn't need another hero in the team lol

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#4 Posted by The_Ghostshell (83915 posts) - - Show Bio

Cause he's not one of Earths, mightiest heroes. He operates on a MUCH larger scale.

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#5 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio

And he's not always a hero.

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#6 Posted by Kraven (561 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Just because the Avenger's tag line is "earth's mightiest heroes" doesn't mean that they are all the powerful heroes in Marvel. The Avengers are not the JLA.

  2. As has been said, Surfer operates on a much bigger scale, he travels across the universe.

  3. Surfer hates being stuck on earth, it was a curse Galactus once placed on him.

  4. The Avengers teams form by means of "fate." The heroes gather together to fight a larger, common threat and decide that there is a specific purpose to all of them being present at the same time. Surfer has never showed up in one of those cases because he's been in space.

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#7 Posted by White Phantom (1835 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"besides if he was there they wouldn't need another hero in the team lol"

True, so true. Though JLA has GL, Superman, and Martian Manhunter. And a lot of the Avengers seem to be heroes that I for one have never heard of. SS is one of Marvel's biggest heroes. Besides, the Avengers might need someone who can travel in space.


Post Edited:2008-01-12 15:28:22

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#8 Posted by Andferne (38281 posts) - - Show Bio

They have plenty of people who can travel in space. The Avengers have a very rich history of members comeing and going.

As for why the SS is not part of them, well like the others said he travels and operates on a larger scale, and he has not always been on the good side (as far as earth is conserned).

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#9 Posted by kuchiku (4104 posts) - - Show Bio

hes on his planet with his wife that one girl and hes alrewady a defender

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#10 Posted by avengpymhawk (1033 posts) - - Show Bio

I think that the Silver Surfer is a better loner than a team player. He once joined the Defenders. Yet, if you ever read the full run of the first series, he maybe showed-up 12 times tops. Let him remain a hero in space. Their are heroes who are better at doing the whole lone rider thing. Like a certain spider we all know.

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#11 Posted by Eternal Chaos (23185 posts) - - Show Bio

avengpymhawk says:

"I think that the Silver Surfer is a better loner than a team player. He once joined the Defenders. Yet, if you ever read the full run of the first series, he maybe showed-up 12 times tops. Let him remain a hero in space. Their are heroes who are better at doing the whole lone rider thing. Like a certain spider we all know. "

Spider-Man, Spider-Man, does what ever a Spider can...

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#12 Posted by zee crusher (9067 posts) - - Show Bio

Cause he was with the defenders fighting the wild one lol

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#13 Edited by King Hyperion (4428 posts) - - Show Bio

Actually, The Silver Surfer did become an Avenger in "What If The Avengers had fought Galactus?" so I think we could put him down as a member even though it was an alternate version of him. Oh and in Avengers Forever #11, one of the good alternate reality Avengers seen flying about was an alternate Silver Surfer.

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#14 Posted by vance_astro (90042 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer isn't an Avenger for the same reason Jean isn't an X-man anymore.Too damn powerful.

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#15 Posted by warlock360 (28181 posts) - - Show Bio

Cosmic > Earth

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#16 Posted by AtPhantom (14434 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Silver Surfer isn't an Avenger for the same reason Jean isn't an X-man anymore.Too damn powerful."
Not to mention he is the servant of the greatest cosmic predator and all that....
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#17 Posted by vance_astro (90042 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Silver Surfer isn't an Avenger for the same reason Jean isn't an X-man anymore.Too damn powerful."
Not to mention he is the servant of the greatest cosmic predator and all that....
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They could totally get him out of that if they wanted to make him an Avenger but there is no point because then they'd have to depower him.
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#18 Posted by King Saturn (221599 posts) - - Show Bio
AtPhantom said:
"Vance Astro said:
"Silver Surfer isn't an Avenger for the same reason Jean isn't an X-man anymore.Too damn powerful."
Not to mention he is the servant of the greatest cosmic predator and all that....
"
Yes Indeed
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#19 Posted by Assman (1997 posts) - - Show Bio
Nighthunter said:
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besides if he was there they wouldn't need another hero in the team lol

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Took the words right outa my mouth! He'd solo! Besides, a team with Thor and SS on it, why would you need anyone else?
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#20 Posted by Erik (32504 posts) - - Show Bio

Do you really want him to be an Avenger? 

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#21 Posted by LubeMan (1118 posts) - - Show Bio
erik said:
"Do you really want him to be an Avenger? "

No, not really.  He's way too overpowered to be on the team and wouldn't really interact well with everyone else cause he's more of a loner and cosmic character that's never in the same place for long.
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#22 Posted by Kyriakos (171 posts) - - Show Bio

He is not from Earth, although it wouldn't be a bad idea ti show up in the Avengers

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#23 Posted by Meteorite (3479 posts) - - Show Bio
Kyriakos said:
"He is not from Earth, although it wouldn't be a bad idea ti show up in the Avengers
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Crossovers wouldn't be bad, but if he was a member it would be boring.

Other Avengers member:"Oh no! Doctor Doom has taken over the world!"
(Five seconds later) Silver Surfer: "Stopped him".
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#24 Posted by BIackFlash (1937 posts) - - Show Bio

He's not from Earth
They already have a brick like Thor
He could probably solo most of the Avengers enemies in one night

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#25 Posted by jloneblackheart (8559 posts) - - Show Bio

Because the Silver Surfer soars alone......

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#26 Edited by arthurkerr (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought he was a Avenger when he was stuck on earth and Green Lantern is part of the Justice League and he has a whole sector to defend so why cannot the SS be a Avenger. This makes no sense. Distance means nothing to the Surfer so that's not a good reason. ooops he was never a avenger but he has worked with them.

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#27 Edited by Moonlighterstone (387 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer isn't an Avenger for the same reason Jean isn't an X-man anymore.Too damn powerful.

I guess this.

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#28 Posted by TylerDurden7272 (1220 posts) - - Show Bio

@arthurkerr:

Because the Silver Surfer like everyone else has said is a loner, is wayyyyyy to powerful for Earths daily problems, he doesn't like being on Earth for too long because he gets a feeling of claustrophobia and lastly Silver Surfer is nothing like Green Lantern other than the fact that they're both cosmic entities.

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#29 Edited by TheCheeseStabber (8212 posts) - - Show Bio
Probably something to do with this guy...
Probably something to do with this guy...

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#30 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (17529 posts) - - Show Bio

He's already a Defender and an Annhialator. He's much to powerful and handles cosmic problems of a much larger scale.

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#31 Edited by CaptainMarvel4Ever (9879 posts) - - Show Bio

He's always nude, and he's shiny so he doesn't photograph well.

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#32 Posted by arthurkerr (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

@arthurkerr:

Because the Silver Surfer like everyone else has said is a loner, is wayyyyyy to powerful for Earths daily problems, he doesn't like being on Earth for too long because he gets a feeling of claustrophobia and lastly Silver Surfer is nothing like Green Lantern other than the fact that they're both cosmic entities.

lmao um I did not say they were twins.....

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#33 Posted by Fifthchild (732 posts) - - Show Bio

Hes hardly too powerful given whose in the Avengers Now lineup but theres very little reason for him to be an Avenger. Hes not an Earthling, doesnt have many big ties to Earth (not sure what became of that Fraction plot point from the end of the Galactus Seed story), would have little interest in most Earth-centric things etc. Just doesnt fit.

Also - hes owned by Fox in terms of movie rights and unless Hickman had a real hankering to do something with the character I cant see Marvel going out of their way to do much with him (current series notwithstanding).

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#35 Posted by arthurkerr (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

SS is my all time favorite character I just wish they would make a movie already.

The universe is a huge place it would be nice to see him in the avenger story arc doing something to save the day some place in the great void of space.

I mean no matter how strong you are or how fast nobody can be everyplace at once.

This is why you have a team.

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#36 Posted by DatHomieSilverSurfer (714 posts) - - Show Bio

He has no reason to be an avengers. Same reason he doesn't really need to join any other teams, he has too much going on cosmically. Also, he really doesn't like being stuck on earth. If anything, he would be an F4 member, he has a much better repoire with any of them then the Avengers. Earth is just another planet to him, hundreds of other planets have their own superteams and you don't see Surfer joining the.

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#37 Posted by Jmarshmallow (11925 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't imagine his boss would be too happy about that.

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#38 Posted by AsgardianXeno929 (1318 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought he was a Avenger when he was stuck on earth and Green Lantern is part of the Justice League and he has a whole sector to defend so why cannot the SS be a Avenger. This makes no sense. Distance means nothing to the Surfer so that's not a good reason. ooops he was never a avenger but he has worked with them.

A big difference between surfer and green lantern is their connection to earth. Avengers are mostly an earth based team like the Just League. Green Lantern however is from earth, and earth falls within his sector to defend, so he'd both be defending his home planet and a planet within his sector. Surfer on the other hand is not from earth, and doesn't have the job to protect a section of space that the earth falls in, so he has no reason to be on earth except for when he wants to say hi to people on it, but even then he is a loner and wouldnt really want to drop by often.

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#39 Posted by Afewmore (68 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor is a cosmic hero, SS should at least have a card or soemething lol.

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#40 Posted by Warhammer (62 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't know, but I think he's better on solo.

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#41 Posted by Outside_85 (18597 posts) - - Show Bio

Partly because he only visits Earth once in a while rather than live here. Secondly, he is on/off leading the cosmic pac-man around to eat worlds.

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#42 Posted by 4U2NV (165 posts) - - Show Bio

Partly because he only visits Earth once in a while rather than live here. Secondly, he is on/off leading the cosmic pac-man around to eat worlds.

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#43 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (17529 posts) - - Show Bio

@arthurkerr: Silver Surfer wasn't an Avenger when he was on earth. And GL lives on Earth so He can still hang with the league.

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#44 Posted by hirev_starman (2195 posts) - - Show Bio

Too strong

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#45 Posted by phisigmatau (698 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Posted by Vascillator (360 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah he's already an Annihilator, which is awesome

PS: More of the Annihilators, please Marvel!

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#47 Posted by PurePleazure4u (93 posts) - - Show Bio

Because not everyone should be Avengers. In fact, he's better on his own.

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#48 Edited by Infinity_War (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer is too powerful to be on the team. They need to be challenged to make the stories interesting.

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