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The Avengers are Earth's mightiest heroes and foremost super-team... "There came a day, a day unlike any other, when Earth's mightiest heroes found themselves united against a common threat. On that day, the Avengers were born - to fight the foes no single super hero could withstand! Heed the call, then - for now, the Avengers Assemble!"
Where do you place Spider-Man and Wolverine as Avengers?
Personally I've never liked them on the team. It's cool to have Spider-Man as a reserve member (crossovers and stuff) and all, but I perfer he remains solo for the most part. Wolverine seems like he's in ten different books at once, so it was kinda like over saturation of the character when Bendis added him to the new team back in 05' or 04'.
I'd place Wolverine on Secret Avengers. Spider-Man on street level Avengers like old New Avengers & new Mighty avengers
I like them being on the Main Team. Let's them handle the Minions and have amazingly witty banter in the meantime.
Personally, not a fan of them on the team.
I'd rank them below longer standing and more appropriate characters, but maybe higher than a few one-time Avengers.
I don't think Wolverine should be on the team (too much over saturation) but Spidey should as he has some nice team dynamics. It would be cool if he appeared in some powerful armor (like Spider-Armor Mark 3) during his Avengers and FF adventures so he doesn't get relegated to being a jokester most of the time.
I love Spidey being there. I could live without Wolvy being there though.
pretty much this.
I really love what Spider-man brings to the group dynamic, and I think it was one of the best things they could have done with his character to have him join the team. He's one of the classic marvel heroes and has long since earned his place among the other classic Avengers.
Wolverine, I liked being an Avenger, especially when he was on Luke Cage's outlaw New Avengers. He had a great dynamic with the rest of the team (especially Spidey and Cage), and as a mutant and former member of the Alpha Flight program, it made a lot of sense that he would be on the side resisting registration. It likewise made sense that he would feel obligated to help found the Avengers Unity Squad, and that did lead to some pretty important developments for his character at the time.
That said, to me, Wolverine will always be one of the marquees X-men characters more than anything else, so I don't know that I'd be especially interested in seeing him on the team at this point. Maybe for particular stories, but not as a regular member.
@oldnightcrawler: well stated sir.
Personally I've never liked them on the team. It's cool to have Spider-Man as a reserve member (crossovers and stuff) and all, but I perfer he remains solo for the most part. Wolverine seems like he's in ten different books at once, so it was kinda like over saturation of the character when Bendis added him to the new team back in 05' or 04'.
They both should have never become Avengers.
i agree with these statements fully. thnk u
Personally I've never liked them on the team. It's cool to have Spider-Man as a reserve member (crossovers and stuff) and all, but I perfer he remains solo for the most part. Wolverine seems like he's in ten different books at once, so it was kinda like over saturation of the character when Bendis added him to the new team back in 05' or 04'.
They both should have never become Avengers.
i agree with these statements fully. thnk u
I love Spidey being there. I could live without Wolvy being there though.
pretty much this.
I really love what Spider-man brings to the group dynamic, and I think it was one of the best things they could have done with his character to have him join the team. He's one of the classic marvel heroes and has long since earned his place among the other classic Avengers.
Wolverine, I liked being an Avenger, especially when he was on Luke Cage's outlaw New Avengers. He had a great dynamic with the rest of the team (especially Spidey and Cage), and as a mutant and former member of the Alpha Flight program, it made a lot of sense that he would be on the side resisting registration. It likewise made sense that he would feel obligated to help found the Avengers Unity Squad, and that did lead to some pretty important developments for his character at the time.
That said, to me, Wolverine will always be one of the marquees X-men characters more than anything else, so I don't know that I'd be especially interested in seeing him on the team at this point. Maybe for particular stories, but not as a regular member.
I agree with this. Also, I hope Spidey joins the Uncanny Avengers. It's the only Avengers book that I read on a regular basis right now and I think Spidey would be awesome there.
I agree with this. Also, I hope Spidey joins the Uncanny Avengers. It's the only Avengers book that I read on a regular basis right now and I think Spidey would be awesome there.
I like Uncanny Avengers a bunch, it's probably my favorite Avengers book of the last few years, but I'm kind of more pumped that he's going to be on Cage's Mighty Avengers. I always liked him and Cage together, and he works pretty well with She-Hulk too.
I could go either way, I like both teams/books.
@zearing: then my dreams of Peter and Rogue getting together can finally come true...
Wolverine stays on the x-men where he belongs....he doesn't need to be an avenger too. Spidey stays solo....I think hes better without the team dynamic
Outside of the team. Wolverine should keep going with X-force,X-Men and Spiderman either solo or something like Marvel Knights could be cool.
Simple. I would place Wolverine with the X-M and Spider-man on his own. LOL
I don't like them so much as Avengers these days, but during Dark Reign having them there was great. They held the team together for me IMO especially with all the crap going on with Tony Stark, whether that be with their dialogue/banter or partnership in general. Now they just don't click. I've always hated how the writers portray Wolverine as more of an Avenger than X-Man whenever the two teams come face to face (which has happened a lot in the last few years) and I think Spidey's just outgrown himself on the team.
Wolverine isn't Avengers material IMO solves too many problems With*Snikt*
Besides he's an Xmen, out of all of them they invite Wolverine the killer!?
Spidey definitely to Kool for the Huge team up, but he's been kicking ass all over NYC saving the day. He earn'd it all the way but They don't know how to implement spidey's character in story arcs well because he outshines the Group
I have to admit that recently I've kind of dreamed of the Mighty Avengers being the book that picks up many or the cancelled or less focused on characters and books. Having the Mighty Avengers made up of Luke Cage, Spectrum, Spiderman, She-Hulk and maybe adding Daredevil and Sue and Reed Richards along with Thing could be fun. Not that I want everyone being Avengers but that type of team up could still exuliat and have that classic feel that everybody liked about the other teams and characters that is somewhat lost nowadays.
All that said. I still prefer everything kind of stay seperate.
To me, Wolverine will always be an X-Man and Spider-Man will always be somewhat of a loner. I did like the idea of Spider-Man as a reserve member (as he was years before Bendis came along).
I loved Spider-Man as part of the FF. As Avengers I don't really like either of them on the team but don't necessarily mind them.
For Spidey, I think he would work best as primary member of a more street level Avengers team (say lead by Daredevil or Luke Cage to take on things like the Maggia) but as an on call reserve member for the main team (because damn it after all this time Peter deserves it).
As for Wolverine, I believe that he works best as a member of the Uncanny Avengers (he is 1 of the most prolific X-Men so why not be on the team) and as a member of the Secret Avengers (given his rather liberal view on killing bad guys and his high skill set and powers). Plus this can continue the tradition (and in universe jokes) of Wolverine being everywhere at once.
I honestly both view as honorary members but who have their own duties and only show uo when it gets major, i prefer with wolverine with the x men and spidey being spidey going around on his own doing occasional team ups however they do interact and bring a better group dynamic.
love spiderman working with the Avengers and also on the team but why people do not like him on the team is odd.
I however hate the no getting anywhere Peter Parker stuck in the dark mood wondering when the sky will fall hero.
Maybe just maybe as an Avenger he would climb out of gloom and doomville for once in his life.
It's obvious Spider-Man needs to be integral to the Avengers, he's the foundation of Marvel comics and his image alone generates millions of dollars and tons of merchandise alone. It's a nice symbolism for the character, Peter in his own way looks up to heroes he became one himself of his own violation and has grown into a legend within the fundamental consciousness of marvel's best and most important. Even in universe it's a fact Spidey is a very social crusader and from the avengers themselves he's proved he's as good as them in being a heroic ideal and a selfless figure to humankind. He's important enough to not stray from his city fighting roots but able to take the fight to any threat with any hero(or by himself) and win and it's growth wise he becomes a bigger hero for his benefit of being a greater human being with great responsibility. NO need to limit him and his world, he's been linked to the Avengers since the 80s and has always wanted to join their ranks to prove his merits and put his heroic career to the test, let the guy be a face of Marvel's greatest heroes because he's earned it and he's definitely old enough to be permanently associated with them like Cap and Hulk is
His street level place in Marvel gets more and more tedious and boring, the guy is stronger than 75% of his rouges gallery and he needs to have daredevil level tales? Most of Spidey's best action moments are when he's against similar or more powerful foes like Rhino or Venom or Jauggernaunt and he prevails, not when he's fighting Norman and lame goblin ripoffs who have no fighting versatilities other than bombs and gliders. Peter needs to force the villains like Batman to play his game, make him more proactive in stopping crime and new York and his rouge's gallery. Make him a professional in his heroic class, then when the Avenger recruit him make him surprise them by letting him be better than their own street levelers in fighting freestyle on any threat aka the wingman guy/quick thinker guy.
So if you think about it, Spidey should be more involved with the main avengers if the MCU wants Peter to be apart of the action for the Civil Wars stories.
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