Avengers: Age of Ultron

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#201 Posted by Cloakx14 (9136 posts) - - Show Bio

i also loved the Hulk vs. Iron man scenes.

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#202 Posted by yasbinfirnas (19 posts) - - Show Bio

hawkeye got his chance to shine. And Black Widow was probably more badass then Iron Man

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#203 Posted by Ultron345 (245 posts) - - Show Bio

For a website that demands such diversity from another nameless company it sure doesn't require it for Marvel. Same stuff different day. Crack a few jokes and make the villain a fool to get a laugh here or there and Marvel has done it's job apparently. No diversity needed here keep it moving people. Nothing wrong with a good old double standard I say.

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#204 Posted by Nathaniel_Christopher (3301 posts) - - Show Bio

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First one was better. This was still an amazing film, but there are stylistic differences that made the first better. The look and cohesion of the team here is excellent, but the overall fight scenes of them together were better in the first, which may have something to do with the fact that this entire film is basically about them breaking up/changing of the guard. As i've stated previously, I don't like this because we've only actually seen them work together once. And we can already assume they'll split apart further for Civil War in a year's time (May 6, 2016) It really would've been better to throw in 2-3 more films before this one, where you either have minor team-up's (Like how DC at first planned a Flash/GL movie, before deciding on standalone's) or just another Avenger's movie entirely. This then gives more time to really see this great team in action and building up their trust and faith in each other, and then makes this film and Civil War more tragic overall. As it is, when Civil War comes around we already have Cap and Iron Man at odds, with there really having been no point that we can really say they were friends. (And that goes for most of the heroes as well in fact. They're really not friends at all.) The first was also just more fun to watch with the entire team coming together, yet in this film you really see more of the shared universe, with War Machine and Falcon showing up at different points. I know things like this have been a complaint, with people asking where various characters are when certain things going on (Like the President being kidnapped in the 3rd Iron Man film) and it's then good to see them shown to be doing something here. Also, Hulkbuster vs Hulk was :smokin Perhaps my favorite part of the film, and easily one of the best fights in the MCU so far.

In terms of how this effects the next Avenger's film, Infinity War of which we'll have two parts: I assume that the new team assembled at the end will feature in the first, before the old team, or all the members that left in this film come back to bring home the win. That's great, I love that, however it would again be better had their been another avengers film in-between the first and AOU. That being said, everyone shined in this movie. Iron Man, Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Widow, Hawkeye, Vision (Who i'm not even a fan of, but that hammer scene was well presented based on everyone else's failure to do so at the beginning.) the only one's who I was disappointed in were the Twins and Ultron. Wanda's powers were ill-defined, and I'll just come out and say that Days of Future Past Pietro is the better of the two. Considering they did everything in the world to make it seem like Clint was going to die it was a surprise, but why exactly didn't he just move Clint and the kid instead? Ultron was then cool, and it worked how he was kind of awkward but menacing at the same time, but man it through me off. He speaks like this big conqueror fused with a child, which again makes sense, but I just wasn't expecting it going in. What's more, I felt that his overall threat level was just gone by the end of the film. Toe to toe with Iron Man and Thor, then engages in a fistfight (Admittedly a good one visually speaking) with Captain America...what? And speaking of awkwardness, there was too much comedy in this film. Like this was a dark-ass movie, and it showed, but their were a lot of jokes where there really shouldn't have been. This is obvious to me, because i've noticed a high amount of comedy in previous films, Iron Man 3 (Which sucked because of it, and was also billed as being dark as hell and then wasn't) and Guardians of the Galaxy (Where while I thought there was too much, it at least fit the tone of the story itself) As it is, the comedy didn't kill this film, like it did Iron Man 3, but they should have toned it down some, and definitely needs to do that going forward in my opinion.

Speaking of going forward, Thor's clearly gone to remove him from Civil War and to set him up for Ragnarok (Which is probably the film i'm most excited for right now) but what the fuck are they doing with the Hulk. I know i've heard about a Planet Hulk movie through rumors, but there's currently no stated movie to be featuring him all the way through 2019, that's after both Avenger's films. What really ticks me off about this is that they already have a new Spider-Man film planned for July 28, 2017, already have plans to introduce him in Civil War, but only just gained the rights to use him like a month ago. Don't get me wrong, I love the character, but where's the Hulk respect? I have no problem with them showcasing new characters (Black Panther, Captain Marvel, and the Inhumans all also have their own films coming up after all) but I find it odd that they're not doing more with the original cast. Maybe Hawkeye and Widow can't hold their own films (Which i'm not really sure I agree with, but they also cameo all over the place as well) but Hulk is certainly popular enough to do so. Iron Man's had 3 films, Cap and Thor are about to have 3, and within this continuity Hulk's only had 1, so let's get him another. (And since the first one is still canon, Leader and Abomination are both around anways and the former hasn't even been mentioned or dealt with at all. NOTE: Just talked to a friend that and was told that Marvel confirmed they would not be doing another Hulk film. Not sure how true that is, but regardless I call it a wasted opportunity)

Going back to the characters in this film, the Hulk/Widow pairing made no sense to me, nor did Hawkeye having a family. I'm also confused as to why Tony is Iron Man again with no explanation, when he destroyed all his armors in Iron Man 3. Don't have a problem with him being Iron Man, didn't agree with him destroying his armors, but when a characters makes a decision like that some explanation is needed. It'd be like if Hulk was suddenly on the team again as of Civil War or the next Avengers film with nothing to explain why. I personally liked how it was Wanda messing with Tony's head that really spurred him on to create Ultron how he did, along with Bruce helping him, only because i'm not a major fan of character bashing and I feel that Ultron's creation is something that usually leads to that. I was annoyed that they were then shifting that onto Tony, instead of having Hank Pym do it (Especially as I think some of Pym's most important stories have stemmed from Ultron's creation) but I then see why with how it'll effect Tony in Civil War (Which comic-wise damn near killed the character, so I hope it's handled better here.)

Overall it was a great film, which I may very well see again in theaters, and i'm excited for things going forward. I don't think it'll hold up as well as the first, but it's still extremely entertaining and does a lot to further the cohesiveness of this universe that Marvel has created. I also enjoyed this ending clip FAR more than the one for Guardians of the Galaxy, though I still would have preferred that the Infinity Gauntlet have been created the same way it was in the comics: Thanos gathering the gems and then just fusing them into the gauntlet he was already wearing. No major reason, I just always thought that was cool lol though with the reveal that there are two separate gauntlets, one in Odin's throne room and another whereever Thanos is i'm interested to see the expansion on their past. Know a lot of people wanted Loki, but I didn't miss him. (Though given the end of Dark World it would've made sense to see him on a throne during Thor's vision or something) There was a lot happening in this film after all. I think this film also did a good job of finally revealing another Infinity Stone (Gem).

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#205 Edited by k4tzm4n (41737 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultron345 said:

For a website that demands such diversity from another nameless company it sure doesn't require it for Marvel. Same stuff different day. Crack a few jokes and make the villain a fool to get a laugh here or there and Marvel has done it's job apparently. No diversity needed here keep it moving people. Nothing wrong with a good old double standard I say.

Okay, I'll bite. I don't mean to be rude, but I sincerely have no idea what you're talking about here. How does my review of Avengers: Age of Ultron contradict my opinions of DC? Keep in mind, I love Man of Steel and continue to get more and more excited about BvS and Suicide Squad.

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#206 Posted by Ultron345 (245 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: This particular review has no negative implications towards DC. Would just like to reiterate and agree with that. Why I tend to have a slight problem with it, is that there seems to be a different set of rules for the companies on CV. I think everyone can agree that Marvel has an almost predictable formula about how to make their movies, it's as if they check off boxes on a checklist. In this modern era comic fans claim to want diversity whether it comes to art style, writing style, racial diversity, sexual diversity etc etc. Regardless of what anyone feels about Man of Steel, it was very different to just about any other superhero movie out, yet it was criticized for being things like 'disaster porn' and no one takes a second look when the Avengers destroyed New York as Tony Stark brings a flying Chitauri monster chasing him through the city with 'bringing the party to you' as his announcement. Herein lies my problem, CV and comic fans CLAIM to want diversity but only if it is done within a very particular mold approved by the vox populi. I can only imagine the outrage if a certain nameless company continued in it's current and very different mold to Marvel where the movies are this predictable. But because it's Marvel just keep it moving.

Once again nothing to do with this particular review.

Thanks Katz

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#207 Posted by k4tzm4n (41737 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultron345: Ah, okay. Thanks for clarifying, ultron.

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#210 Posted by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

I am very happy to have Gregg back doing reviews, even if only occasionally. I loved his battle features, but his reviews are top notch.

That being said this is one of the few times I disagree with him, I would go 2 to 3 stars. I'd explain more but I'm a little drunk :)

But two...no three things: Ultron was silly, I want a cold-hearted killer Ultron. The action was visually hard to follow and the plot was also hard to follow (what the heck did the vibranium have to do with anything?). And that reveal with Hawkeye? So out of nowhere and unnecessary.

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#211 Edited by Lee12761 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought the acting was a little flat. I love RDJ but he looked burned out and like he was mailing it in. James Spader is the master of the deadpan and he was given almost nothing work with. And a few of the jokes were not funny...the whole Cap being offended by cursing winding up with him cursing himself felt contrived and phony.

That being said the special effects were amazing. The final battle with the robots was straight out of a George Perez sketch or an Alex Ross painting. And the Hulk / Hulkbuster donnybrook caused an epic nerd-gasm.

Overall, a great and fun summer movie. And I actually think it will eventually hold up better than the first Avengers movie (having watched it multiple times). It is such a good feeling knowing that you can go to any Marvel movie, and while you may like some more than others, you know you are going to get great entertainment.

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#212 Posted by KingStandup (110 posts) - - Show Bio

Some random thoughts:
- I loved the scenes with War Machine. Don Cheadle was hilarious. WARMACHINEROX!
- I was glad that Hawkeye had a bigger role this time around. Clint Barton deserves it.
- Story was strong (enough) and it goes without saying that it was visually stunning.
- Vision was cool, but something just didn't click for me. It just seemed like something was missing, but I can't quite put my finger on it.

- Witch and Silver were nice additions.
- Great to see Ultron on the big screen, but he just wasn't scary enough. Don't get me wrong, I was glad that he was funny...but he might have been too funny.

[4 out of 5 stars]

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#213 Posted by k4tzm4n (41737 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie said:

I am very happy to have Gregg back doing reviews, even if only occasionally. I loved his battle features, but his reviews are top notch.

That being said this is one of the few times I disagree with him, I would go 2 to 3 stars. I'd explain more but I'm a little drunk :)

But two...no three things: Ultron was silly, I want a cold-hearted killer Ultron. The action was visually hard to follow and the plot was also hard to follow (what the heck did the vibranium have to do with anything?). And that reveal with Hawkeye? So out of nowhere and unnecessary.

Thanks! As for the bold, vibranium was for Vision, Ultron's big plan, and I'm pretty certain he used some for his final version. Also, a nice way to give comic fans some Black Panther hype!

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#214 Posted by TheBlueAngel93 (21064 posts) - - Show Bio

Does anyone else feel like Quicksilver's death was a bit forced? Throughout the film we see him being able to movie full-grown people pretty quickly with seemingly little to no trouble, so I'm a little confused as to why he couldn't have just moved both Hawkeye and the little boy, as well as himself, to a safe location?

That being said, I actually could see a way for Marvel to retcon Quicksilver's death in a future film, if they decided to do so. While we know that there have already been four of the Infinity Stone/Gems shown so far in the MCU, two still remain with one being the Soul Stone/Gem and the other being the Time Stone/Gem. The Time Stone/Gem, depending on exactly how its powers work, could be used by Thanos or one of the Avengers (like Scarlet Witch for example) to travel in time and change something in the past, such as saving Quicksilver from getting killed by Ultron.

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#215 Posted by copete (2960 posts) - - Show Bio

I think I'm more invested in finding out why Greg is back than reading the review at the moment.

why did he leave in the first place?

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#216 Edited by Enemybird (5105 posts) - - Show Bio

I dont think this movie would've been as bad if X-Men DOFP hadn't come out. In DOFP we had awesome feats from QS & Magneto. We saw the future sentinels which were way more menacing and deadly than ultron was at his very worst. None of the heroes in avengers were tested, they just smashed robots which should've been an absolute cake walk. The only time avengers is good is when the heroes fight each other. I am glad they have a new team towards the end though maybe that will change things up

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#217 Posted by arthurkerr (2180 posts) - - Show Bio

I found it odd to that Quick Silver would die his first time out thus not making any name for himself at all. In the Xmen movie he was much faster and put this version to shame. I would have to wonder how he got hit at all.

Things I liked about the movie was all of it but the very end that showed Hulk running away from somebody he cared for. Hulk is never afraid of anything yet alone the one person cheering him on. That part made it something I could never watch twice unless they showed that he was simply gathering his thoughts and coming back. Then it would show that the Hulk is not quitter on people.

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#218 Posted by Yung ANcient One (5308 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed the film a great deal. It was all that and a bag of chips. The thing that stops this film from being something epic is that there was no part of the film that made me cry or want to cry. This film is better than the first and had the best portrayal of a villain for "MARVEL's standard." Because the rule is, villains can't be funny, apparently. SO much fan service, so much action, so many beautiful moments, such good writing. (+)

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#219 Posted by copete (2960 posts) - - Show Bio

was actually not very satisfied. was ok, but expected much more. Guardians and Winter Solider were way above this.

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#220 Edited by StarBrand1 (661 posts) - - Show Bio

Whats funny to me is, this movie is over packed with charecters, not all are dealt with well. A thing that other movies get cursed for, this site included. Yet none of those issues that plague so many other movies, get ignored here. This movie didnt't do any better a job than any of the other cursed movie did. But hey its a marvel movie, right?

Saying that, it was a fun movie, if you dont sit here and pick it apart. I just wish the critics didnt soften the blow simply becasue its a marvel movie.

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#221 Edited by k4tzm4n (41737 posts) - - Show Bio

Whats funny to me is, this movie is over packed with charecters, not all are dealt with well. A thing that other movies get cursed for, this site included. Yet none of those issues that plague so many other movies, get ignored here. This movie didnt't do any better a job than any of the other cursed movie did. But hey its a marvel movie, right?

Saying that, it was a fun movie, if you dont sit here and pick it apart. I just wish the critics didnt soften the blow simply becasue its a marvel movie.

Oh no! The jig is up!

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#222 Posted by kid Apollo (961 posts) - - Show Bio

I really wasnt a fan of the extra scene at the end. I get what theyre trying to do but we all know where the series is going, and considering the wide range of characters that are in the cast, they could have come up with something better.

I felt like Quicksilver got more attention while Scarlet Witch barely said anything and jus stood in the background like someone had just backhanded her. not to spoil anything but I really didnt like how things ended for the twins

the only other thing i didnt like was the Vision's face. it reminded me of the Green Lantern costume a few years ago. I'd have preferred a CG/makeup hybrid.

All those things aside i really liked the movie. lots of action, lots of heroes being heroes, more background on Hawkeye and Black Widow, the Vision and the twins are cool. A big part of me wanted a Black Panther cameo

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#223 Edited by jackye (3 posts) - - Show Bio

i like the movie, but it wasn't great i prefer the first avengers, i like vision but the twin were awful and useless, wanda started all in the movie it was her fault, and for what i read about civil war, i think that she is more awful, quicksilver was a really poor character i don't care if he is dead, i prefer him of that way. i think that the twin shouldn't have been in the movie, the old team is great like always.

And the new team are so useless i want the old avengers

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#224 Posted by amazing_webhead (9819 posts) - - Show Bio

this movie had a little more of what I wanted: the Avengers working as a team. a well-oiled unit.

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#225 Posted by Zalewski14 (36 posts) - - Show Bio

I wanna hear yours guys' opinions, a lot of people are saying Avengers is better only because it came out before Age of Ultron, one guy actually said, and i quote, "If Age of Ultron came out first it would be better," those exact words. What do you guys think?

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#226 Posted by MasterKungFu (20773 posts) - - Show Bio

k4tzm always makes good reviews

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#227 Posted by MasterKungFu (20773 posts) - - Show Bio

nice

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#228 Edited by Allaric (75 posts) - - Show Bio

My brief review of the movie:

1) great action

2)Ultron sux he was an idiot - Ultron is supposed be the Ultimate cold calculating Super Android not some act at a 3rd rate comedy dive.

3)WTF Whedon !! Hank Pym created Ultron , he's not inside some little blue alien gem in a staff left behind by Loki.

4) Scarlet Witch is the new Jean Grey - did Whedon even read any Marvel comics

5)Vision - was ok , except NO he doesn't have the yellow infinity stone in his forehead and he has NEVER wielded Mjolnir , nor would be able to since he has never been tested to be worthy.

6)Hulk/Banner was great , he basically saved the movie w/o his character and Black Widow this movie would have totally sux.

7)Hawkeye was ok , got a bit boring though...

8)Captain America was good , was better in Winter Soldier

9)Black Widow , was good , better than Hawkeye

10)Thor was so , so , he really wasn't on screen that much compared to the other characters he was mostly off screen somewhere doing something else his part of the script was probably 1 or 2 pages altogether.

11) Stark was ok, he was better in his Ironman suit than out of it as Tony Stark , and the attempt at a running gag with him picking at Capt was forced didn't seem natural.

12) Quicksilver - WTF - again has Whedon ever read a Marvel comic - first Pietro gives the orders NOT Wanda and second he would have NEVER left Wanda alone and wtf he's dead now , thanks Whedon

The way the movie portrayed the Ultron character ruined the movie , think Jar Jar binks bad , that's what he did to this movie , after the first couple of scenes of Ultron I began to dread listening to his idiotic one liners , he came off as some kind of stupid goon.

3 out 5 stars , get Ultron right and it would be 4 out 5

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#229 Posted by The Impersonator (8477 posts) - - Show Bio

It was a solid, entertaining movie. The humor and action were great. Ultron was a cheesy villain, but at the same time, menacing. I wasn't too fond of killing Baron Strucker. He could have worked with Ultron or being controlled by the Scarlet Witch to work for him. Not to mention, Quicksilver was killed way too quick. My guess is that both studios are owning the speedster, just to avoid the confusion. But I don't see any problem in using the character from both universes.

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#230 Posted by GoblinAlGhoul (115 posts) - - Show Bio

@brinkthemoviemyfavoritemovie: News flash: My username is Goblin Al Ghoul as a reference to Green Goblin and Ra's Al Ghul my two favorite comic book villains.

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#231 Posted by GoblinAlGhoul (115 posts) - - Show Bio

@k4tzm4n: My username is Goblin Al Ghoul as in referencing Green Goblin and Ra's Al Ghul. I like both MARVEL and DC. My post was simply pointing out that people don't know how to appreciate a MARVEL villain because they tend to be "too funny" and not "menacing" like DC character film villains seem to be appreciated. Again, my two favorite comic book villains are Green Goblin and Ra's Al Ghul.

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#233 Posted by GoblinAlGhoul (115 posts) - - Show Bio

@brinkthemoviemyfavoritemovie: Merely pointing out that it is more than painfully obvious that a person can be a fan of both DC and MARVEL since I am proof of that. My username is evidence to that. Have a nice life.

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#235 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11559 posts) - - Show Bio

Am I the only one who thinks this was FAR superior to the first? And in fact the first one suck ass? I gave it a 9/10. Though Ultron wasn't as menacing as he could have been, I kinda liked his personality in that it showed that he shares characteristics with his creator, Tony (both are sarcastic and may in fact hurt people in trying to do the "right thing"). I was really pissed off when they killed Quicksilver, and thought Scarlet or Hawkeye should of died instead (especially since we got to see a softer side of him). He's the only big name speedster Marvel has, and killing him off felt a little unnecessary; it's not like if DC decided to kill Barry off in their Cinematic Universe; they have 3 other Flashes to take his place (Jay, Wally, & Bart). There's ONE quicksilver.

PS. Though I liked DoFP Quicksilver's personality & character better, I just for some reason thought the Avengers Pietro was somewhat better.

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#236 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11559 posts) - - Show Bio

Can we PLEASE geta MCU film where the villain isn't made into a joke at the end. The ONLY time we've gotten this is with the Winter Soldier. GOTG did it the worst. That whole movie made a joke of itself, especially with the dancing. Also, can I ask any of you, what was so good about that film anyway?

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#237 Posted by Farkam (12025 posts) - - Show Bio

This wasn't as bad as I remembered. Needs some editing though.

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#238 Posted by Bat_SAINT (959 posts) - - Show Bio

7/10 was really disappointed with this movie.

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