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The Marvel Universe You Know Is Ending

There goes the universe. Find out what Tom Brevoort and Axel Alonso have to say about the upcoming mega event, SECRET WARS.

If Marvel claims it's going to make “the announcement to end all announcements” in New York, you can bet Comic Vine is going to be there to hear what the publisher has to say. So, we traveled into the Manhattan (as expected, traffic was a delight) and joined several other outlets at Midtown Comics' downtown location. Chis D'Lando, Tom Brevoort and Axel Alonso quickly welcomed us and then dropped something huge. As Brevoort puts it, "the Marvel Universe as you know it is done. The Ultimate Universe is done." That's right, it's time for an "all-new Marvel Universe."

From left to right: Tom Brevoort, Axel Alonso, Chris D'Lando
From left to right: Tom Brevoort, Axel Alonso, Chris D'Lando

If you've been following the news about SECRET WARS (if not, what gives?), then it should come as no surprise this new universe will be formed on Battleworld. Brevoort stated it's "possibly the biggest event Marvel has ever done" and said this has been building since Jonathan Hickman began writing AVENGERS and NEW AVENGERS. In fact, the idea has been floating around for quite some time and goes years back. When we're already an issue or two into SECRET WARS, Brevoort said you'll be able to spot some hints way back in Hickman's FANTASTIC FOUR run and possibly his SECRET WARRIORS run. “It is difficult to imagine something that would be larger in scope than SECRET WARS. We’ve never done anything like this.”

Alonso added the event is receiving input from all divisions at the House of Ideas and he called it the "most coordinated event" the publisher has ever done. As for the recent events, the teams were aware of what's going on and it was building towards this one. "Every time we were planning an event, we had to be mindful of SECRET WARS and make decisions based on the fact that SECRET WARS was heading our way."

The two then went on to discuss what'll happen with the Ultimate Universe (you can read thorough detailed coverage of that here). Basically, it and the 616 universe will "smash together." Who will remain? Who will be left out? We'll just have to wait and see, but it seems safe to guess that Miles Morales will stick around, right?

Battleworld will be the "new melting pot where the new Marvel Universe will be created." Brevoort said that "during, through and after SECRET WARS; all there is is Battleworld." So yeah, say goodbye to the universe as you know it. Alonso stressed the point that none of the locations on the map are now alternate realities and everything there has "legs and will import new things into the Marvel Universe moving forward." He called every spot on the map a building block.

Remember all of those teasers that built up to the SECRET WARS announcement? You know, all of the various covers that everyone thought would just be "what if?" titles or fun little multiverse adventures? Well, it turns out those aren't the only titles that are coming our way. The three said lots of new announcements are coming over the next two weeks and D'Lando pointed out they haven't even announced half the titles. Let the speculation begin.

SECRET WARS #0 will be available on free comic book day and it'll obviously aim to catch up new readers and help everyone prepare for what's to come. Also included will be the AVENGERS/ATTACK ON TITAN story. The first and second chapters of SECRET WARS will drop in May.

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As for the covers, Alex Ross will provide all 8 and, as expected, there will be a bunch of variants. They also revealed the second cover and it includes a whole lot of Thors. Could this be their way of making sure Thor and the Goddess of Thunder both exist on Battleworld? Brevoort stated the second chapter is a "gargantuan, over-sized issue." He also praised Esad Ribic's artwork, calling it stunningly beautiful.

Several companies are on board to help create SECRET WARS collectibles. As for the movies and whether the publisher's inspired by the Marvel Cinematic Universe, Alonso pointed out that all of those stories started in comic book pages. "We tell our own stories. You will be shocked by the chances we're taking in this story and beyond." Additionally, he said they understand if they receive an equal amount of love and hate about which characters will stay and which will be left behind.

When asked what this means for current ongoing stories, Brevoort replied that the creative teams have known this is on the way and several will be on new titles. He emphasized that "nobody is blind to it" and this has required "years of preparation."

One outlet asked, "Is this meant to be a new generation's Marvel Universe?" Alonso answered with "read and find out." He pointed out again they're taking chances, but also wanted to make it clear this isn't a reboot. He stated that Marvel's history "is not broken" and this is their way of expanding it.

Photo credit: Marvel.com
Photo credit: Marvel.com

SECRET WARS #1 and #2 go on sale this May.

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Intresting

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After seeing that image, I want a Thor Corps comic.

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This clears things up a bit... I feel a bit better about all this.

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@k4tzm4n: if you were really there do you know what he said at the end when this video ended?

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they ended mid sentence, just saying the universes as we know them are done

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fingers crossed that they make Apocalypse not garbage anymore

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@mrnoital said:

@k4tzm4n: if you were really there do you know what he said at the end when this video ended?

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they ended mid sentence, just saying the universes as we know them are done

If I was really there? How do you think I took that first picture, silly? :P

He went on to say the "all-new Marvel Universe starts in May" and added it "technically" starts in the second issue, which also goes on sale in May. So I guess SECRET WARS #1 concludes with the forming of Battleworld and the second is all about explaining what it is and exploring it. Basically, elements from those two universes -- and many others -- will be on Battleworld and, when it comes to the new MU, Battleworld is all there is (or so we're told).

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I'm really worried this is going to be more of a soft reboot and less of a full on continuity destruction ala what DC did with flashpoint. It would just be easier to have Marvel reboot everything.

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Its a wait and see for me

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I hope this is good

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@k4tzm4n: haha good point

I'm interested in seeing how this turns out

do you think this is a reboot?

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This is the "Crisis'' of Marvel...And nothing will ever be the same again....

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Cool, but I still don't see this as the "biggest announcement ever" or however it was promoted.

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Cool, but I still don't see this as the "biggest announcement ever" or however it was promoted.

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I think it'll be 616 history, but with some alternate universe characters hopping over.

Vain Hope: Nightman, Prime, and a few other 'Ultras' come over.

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I'm really worried this is going to be more of a soft reboot and less of a full on continuity destruction ala what DC did with flashpoint. It would just be easier to have Marvel reboot everything.

I would agree..its like they are doing a reboot they just don't want to call it that. Pretty much both companies are doing the same thing at this point.

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I'm sure The Illuminate tampering with the Incursions have some to do with this, but someone REALLY powerful has to be behind this as well. The Beyonder?

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I can't waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait.

This is going to be insane, and I'm ready.

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looks interesting. as long as they don't destroy what is currently going on in the current universe, then im all in. Let me rephrase that... As long as they don't mess with the current Amazing Spider-man, Spidey 2099, and Doc Green Hulk titles then im fine with it.

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This is either going to be really good or really bad.

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Alex Ross + Esad Ribic = F'n WINNING

I just hope the writing is up to par

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So, it's basically Flashpoint?

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Gregg has the best and most conversational articles on the Vine. This was an enjoyable read.

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@bladewolf said:

Cool, but I still don't see this as the "biggest announcement ever" or however it was promoted.

They are dismantling the entire multiverse, how is that not big?

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Well this is a good way to clean house. I hope they bring back Charles and Wolverine.

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@shazam117: I forgot what series it was but i remember the Beyonder being on the cover of it while toying with someone so I'm assuming he'll be involved in this someway

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@jonny_anonymous: Because they made it sound like the biggest announcement in the world.

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interesting to see how this is going to work if they are not going to change history but just add characters/events to the current 616. i want an adult jean grey please!!! yall had many chances to bring her back and here is another one. dont mess it up again

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If they are just gonna smash universes and replace some characters with their counterparts, then that would suck.

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@shazam117 said:

I'm sure The Illuminate tampering with the Incursions have some to do with this, but someone REALLY powerful has to be behind this as well. The Beyonder?

It's been revealed that the energy that comes from the Incursions have the same frequency as the energy that the Molecule man have, because The powers of the Beyonder and those of the Molecule man are related we can guess that the Beyonder is related to all this.

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OK I'm gonna take another stab at this event one more time after AXIS. :p

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8 issue series twice a month, all new marvel starts in September is my guess.

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Combining Ultimate and 616? Very Fascinating

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This is a way to do a lot of house cleaning of story lines that hinder characters can be wiped clean. Popular characters from other universes that have been in limbo can be brought into a singular universe. Pretty much what Crisis did in the 80's.

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@br_havoc: Exactly. I really like this idea. It seems well thought out and much needed.

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Can Marvel please stop rebooting series and universes? I can't keep track of it all anymore.

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@earthsmightiest: I should've guessed it was New Avengers. It's the only logical series for him to show up in right now haha

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reminds me of the other guys when david urshawn kept bribing them then saying not a bribe. this sounds like a reboot. I hate the idea of pulling a New 52 so just don't do it. I trust them, but this better not be an effing reboot.

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Not a reboot. Same characters coming to a new world and fighting it out.

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@jashro44 said:

@boschepg said:

@sirfizzwhizz@mr_ingenuity@jashro44@serrure@higorm

I guess there is going to have to be a distinction between pre-battleworld Marvel and post-battleworld Marvel in any battles now

I hope its temporary.

I don't know. DC Nu52 is decent, IMO. I think MARVEL has kind of jumbled everything the last ten years with so many cross-over and big events that development has really lacked

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@boschepg: The new 52 was really fun at first but now its just really confusing and continuity is a mess IMO.

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The all new 52.. Yay!

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Now the "Peter/MJ/kid" thingy got interesting.