Comic Vine News

140 Comments

Off My Mind: How 'Peter Parker' Can Return to Being Spider-Man

Nothing is forever in comics and there is an easy way for the recent events shift back to the status quo.

This does not deal with or spoil the 'twist' in SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #1.

By now most people have heard the latest developments in the life of Peter Parker and Spider-Man. It's been all over the news, internet and we even did a video explaining the recent events. Spider-Man's enemy, Doc Ock, was dying and managed to switch bodies with Spider-Man. During their final battle, Doc Ock (in Spider-Man's body) managed to outwit Spider-Man (in Doc Ock's body) with the result of Peter Parker dying along with Ock's body. Otto Octavius now inhabits Peter Parker's body as the mind of Peter died along with Ock's body…or did it?

No Caption Provided

Comic book deaths are nothing new. Characters die and eventually return for the most part. Because of Spider-Man's stature in comics, we know this change cannot be permanent. We have an interesting twist allowing for some different types of Spider-Man stories but at some point, the true Peter Parker has to return.

In a recent podcast, writer Dan Slott has even pointed out how when big changes are made, there's always a back door (this was in reference to the death of Hobgoblin). SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #1 has been released and there is another twist to the plot. It does add a new layer to these developments but returning Peter Parker to Spider-Man may not completely depend on that twist. There is another explanation to how things could return to normal.

One of the big questions many have had is how did Doc Ock actually switch bodies with Peter Parker? The explanation given was Spider-Man put himself in a situation on three occasions that allowed Ock to map out Parker's brain. This gave him a way to jump in and force Parker into his dying body. The only downside was each retained the memories of the other (which is why Ock in Spider-Man's body has the urge to be some sort of hero). The idea of switching bodies due to mapping out a person's brain seems like it could be a stretch but again, we're talking about a comic book plot so our suspension of disbelief needs to be used.

No Caption Provided

An easier way to explain this and to offer a way out is perhaps they didn't actually switch bodies. What this means is Ock never left his body and Peter was never forced to reside in Ock's. What about their actions, thoughts and speech? We know they possess each other's memories. Peter was able to see Ock's full life and vice versa. Ock's plan to switch bodies could have failed but resulted in only each other's memories being forced into the minds of the other. This massive invasion could have taken dominance in both, making them think they actually were the other person in another body. In other words, Doc Ock could have thought his plan worked and now he was really Peter Parker in Ock's body and Spider-Man now thinks he's Ock in his body. That might be a little confusing but just think about it.

No Caption Provided

When Ock's body died, it could have simply been Ock that did actually die. Only he thought he was Peter Parker, trying to switch bodies. The current SUPERIOR Spider-Man could still really be Spider-Man, only under the influence of Ock's memories, making him think he's Ock in the Parker body. At some point, these memories could be sorted out and SUPERIOR Spider-Man could realize he's not actually Ock at all. He's always been Peter Parker.

One simplified way to think about it is when a person is intoxicated. We hear about people doing things when influenced by alcohol that they normally wouldn't. Peter Parker could be drunk on Doc Ock. He could be influenced by those memories that were shoved into his brain which is making him think he's really Ock in his own body. At some point this will wear off or an expert will come in and help Peter sort out who he really is. That way, "Peter Parker" never died at all. Doc Ock didn't necessarily win. Any intimate relations between Peter and Mary Jane would have nothing to do with Octavius (and everyone can STOP bringing that up).

The fact is, Octavius REWROTE Peter's brain with his brain patterns and vice versa. This doesn't mean they actually SWITCHED bodies (like Freaky Friday).

Would this be a cop out? Not necessarily. Once Peter was able to return to having his actual mind in control, he'll have to deal with the repercussions of what happened when he thought he was really Ock in his body. We've already seen in SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #1 that he's taken a more violent approach when dealing with his enemies. Peter will have to deal with that, getting fired from the Avengers as well as the developments that might occur with Mary Jane. There will be the question of what actions were done on his part and which by Ock's influence?

No Caption Provided

What about Doc Ock then? Does this mean he was actually the one that died? It could be. Ock has died before. If this resulted in him actually being dead, it's a good sacrifice to fuel this story and turn Spider-Man's life upside down. He may have been a smart man but would he have been smart enough to actually manage figuring out how to switch bodies?

There's also always the possibility that he didn't actually die. What happened to his body after the battle? He appeared to be dead and there was one image of his body covered in a sheet. Maybe he wasn't fully dead but really close to it. When he was taken away, it could have been discovered he still had a tiny bit of fight left in him. Or maybe even some dastardly villain took his body and put it in some sort of suspended animation to figure out a way to bring him back. Sounds like something Norman Osborn would totally get behind and we haven't seen any mention of him since he awoke from his coma and escaped custody in AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #697.

No Caption Provided

This theory could be wrong of course. This is just how I see a way to revert Peter Parker dying and having Doc Ock in control of his body. While we have the seeds of another route being planted in SUPERIOR SPIDER-MAN #1, I don't feel that's the way it'll go. I see it as more of a multiple personality disorder thing. We'll have to wait and see. What should be noted is if I could come up with this plausible explanation, there's absolutely no reason to doubt that Dan Slott or the powers that be at Marvel haven't thought of an even better one.

140 Comments

Avatar image for comiccrusaders
ComicCrusaders

9

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By ComicCrusaders

The soul particle gun, which appeared in Amazing #700 is what WILL be used to return Peter back to his body, I base that on how Superior 1 ended.

Avatar image for infectedhero
infectedhero

91

Forum Posts

54

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By infectedhero

good point.

Avatar image for mattwing87
mattwing87

441

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By mattwing87

Kind of reminds me of Heroes where Sylar was inside Matt's mind and later Sylar was forced to look like and think he was Nathan Petrelli which end up failing of course. So Peter could still be in his body but thinks he is Doc Ock and eventually his mind will push through and he will be back just like Sylar did.

Avatar image for telepathic666
telepathic666

230

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By telepathic666

just use magic

Avatar image for redowl_1
RedOwl_1

1743

Forum Posts

73

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 16

User Lists: 1

Edited By RedOwl_1

It's a cool theory but I found it improvable...

As for Superior Spider-Man, I liked it more than I thought (I actually loved it), it really overcame my expectations in the first issue.... I'm impressed :I

Avatar image for sentryman555
sentryman555

883

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By sentryman555

my big problem with your theory of Peter not really being dead and just having his mind just re-written is we saw Peter going to heaven, or whatever it was, in the final issue of amazing spiderman. When he met Gwen and everyone else. If his mind was just being messed with that scene makes no real sense to me.

Avatar image for artisticneedham
ArtisticNeedham

2731

Forum Posts

5732

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By ArtisticNeedham

I'm not sure if its my impatience or all the people talking about how they hate the idea constantly or me just not sure about the concept but I am wondering if this is going to be a story I would prefer to read as a collected book instead of issue by issue. Should I wait and get this as a trade after a year? I probably wont, but I just want to know what happens already maybe. Plus I am sick of constant complaining about the comic too.

Avatar image for deactivated-5d6179a9df861
deactivated-5d6179a9df861

347

Forum Posts

453

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 4

@Earth616 said:

Seriously guys, if you don't want to read about Peter anymore, then stop reading Spider-Man! Or just read ultimate Spider-Man, cause he's dead there! The rest of us are eagerly awaiting his return!

I agree with you, there is much whining on the site these days on different series. It is simple don't like it don't read it, the other thing is a waste of tme and money.

Avatar image for earth616
Earth616

181

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Earth616

Seriously guys, if you don't want to read about Peter anymore, then stop reading Spider-Man! Or just read ultimate Spider-Man, cause he's dead there! The rest of us are eagerly awaiting his return!

Avatar image for nrgb2814
nrgb2814

123

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By nrgb2814

I'd like to see an epic battle of the minds, myself.

Avatar image for mbecks14
Mbecks14

2114

Forum Posts

4160

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 15

Edited By Mbecks14

I'm guessing Peter's memories will start becoming stronger until they totally re-write Doc Ock's personallity and he just really is Peter Parker again.

As long as they don't make more deals with the devil...

Avatar image for havik86
Havik86

39

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Havik86

This whole storyline reminds me a little too much of every arc featuring the Chameleon. He takes over Peter/Spider-Man's identity, traps Peter/Spider-Man who eventually breaks out, Peter/Spider-Man defeats the Chameleon, then puts the pieces of his life back together. I don't really see how different this is going to be except that it might go on for more than 4 or 5 issues lol.

Avatar image for xorion
Xorion

447

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Xorion

@Ganthetsward20 said:

I dont want peter back!

yeah when spiderman starteing to get interesting they wanna bring him back? How wonderfull

@AranhaMarcial: when you think there can't be anymore bat books

Avatar image for soir8
soir8

27

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By soir8

@AranhaMarcial: 2 things;

1. Wuh?

2. SPOILERS DAMMIT

Avatar image for phaedrusgr
Phaedrusgr

1715

Forum Posts

83

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 0

Edited By Phaedrusgr

@AranhaMarcial: That toe hits me in the eye...it's so superior...

Avatar image for aranhamarcial
AranhaMarcial

20

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By AranhaMarcial

Fresh News a preview of The Superior # 2 Spider-Man in Marvel,and cry or laugh too fucking.

In Superior Spider-man # 2! See the debut of Spider-Signal!!

When I saw these images of The Superior # 2, almost fell of the chair. I was wondering if it was some story like "time tunnel", the famous DC Comics Elseworlds. Dan Slott had spoken in his desire to write stories of Spider, is inspiring the adventures of Batman. But I never thought he would take it so literally so! Now we have a SPIDER-SIGN and we even have a Commissioner Gordon, personified in the figure of prefeto JJ Jameson! Seriously, I almost thought about leaving Marvete to be after that ... In addition to transforming his identity secret in Casper, now we will have another Batman title, now in MARVEL! Now, only fault has originality to create a nemesis called Joker Goblin.

Let abstracting it to be able to say that issues # 2 and # 3 show Ock Spider-faced his former colleagues of the Sinister Six, one of the first members he will face will be the VULTURE. And it will help the mayor Jameson, very pleased with his attitude to face the Scorpio, something that happened in issue # 1. Meanwhile, Carlie Cooper stunned discovers that Spider-Man is actually DOCTOR OCTOPUS!!

Follow it all in two weeks at The Superior Bat-spider # 2!

Avatar image for spideycap
Spideycap

328

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Spideycap

This is what comics should be. Fun, meaningful, thought provoking. I'm in for the ride.

Avatar image for loki2u
Loki2u

325

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Loki2u

I was on board with the new changes until I read this article and realized how silly this all sounds.

Avatar image for pyrogram
Pyrogram

46168

Forum Posts

13113

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 1

Edited By Pyrogram

@G-Man: That was a... VERY good read 0_0

Avatar image for madrooster81
MadRooster81

186

Forum Posts

8

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 1

Edited By MadRooster81

This also would make the ending to Superior Spider-Man make more sense. I like this theory. Whatever happens, this is going to make for a good story.

Avatar image for aranhamarcial
AranhaMarcial

20

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By AranhaMarcial

My god ... and there are people who still buy it. I can not imagine how a person would agree with this NORMAL GARBAGE history of slot machine ridiculous like that spiderman is tolerated ...

My god ...

Avatar image for mucklefluga
Mucklefluga

2653

Forum Posts

3678

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 3

User Lists: 5

Edited By Mucklefluga

Peter Parker could be drunk on Doc Ock.

One of the best sentences i have ever read ;D

Avatar image for wmwadeii
wmwadeii

3327

Forum Posts

266306

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 2261

User Lists: 3

Edited By wmwadeii

I'm one to believe that since if it is Otto with Peter's memories, it will only take a resident mutant psychic to block/erase the Otto portion leaving only Pete's memories.

Avatar image for millennium
millennium

214

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By millennium

thats one way of doing it but im going to say let the JACKAL bring peter back shit out of all of spidermans villians he would be the only one to tell that its otto in their and not peter

Avatar image for kid_apollo
kid Apollo

961

Forum Posts

14

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By kid Apollo

hahah i was totaly thinkin that Ock in Pete's body and him doing things Ock-style was like being being under the influence of booze (i work in a liquor store in the downtown core so its something i see quite often). then BOOM you mention it.

i know im gonna get lynched for this but theres quite a similarity between Pete being pushed by Ock's memories to go harder/edgier and Cyclops being pushed by the Phoenix Force to kill Professor X. you have to wonder how much of it is the core personality and how much of it is instilled by the new personality. of course thats all based on the theory of Ock's memories over influencing Peter.

Avatar image for mediumflyer7
Mediumflyer7

314

Forum Posts

4

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 7

User Lists: 0

Edited By Mediumflyer7

A part of peters mind is still in his body so I bet he will gradually take back over control of his brain in like 20 issues or something.

Avatar image for mp_simonwilliams
MP_SimonWilliams

19

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By MP_SimonWilliams

Here's my prediction on the inevitable and very lame conclusion to this storyline........around issue No. 14 or 15 or so, of Superior Spider-Man, Octavious Spider-Man will a very brief dream where Peter Parker haunts him. These dreams gradually become more intense and repeat/re-occur with regularity as the subsequent issues unfold.......where it begins to slowly reveal that Peter's buried subsconsious is trapped deep within his mind and his mind is fighting its way back to the surface......

At the end of issue No. 24 of Superior Spider-Man, Otto inexplicably drops over and falls into a sudden coma. The issue ends with a cliffhanger of subconscious imagery showing Otto Octavious and Peter Parker squaring off face-to-face on a battlefield of dream clouds -- both dressed in Spider-Man outfits......with Spidey suits-on, but masks off.....and of course, the Otto Spider-Man has his old Otto head and octopus arms on a Spider-Man body....the subconscious Peter has both fists clenched and screams, "You've stolen everything that's ever belonged to me, Octopus....and now I'm reclaiming what's mine......once and for all!" (Issue ends on that note.....)

In the special, and much-hyped No. 25"Anniversary Issue" of Superior Spider-Man ---- it features an all-out subconscious "mental" fist fight between Octopus Spider-Man and Peter Parker......a climactic subconscious battle that Parker wins and re-assumes the mantel of Spider-Man. Otto is now supposedly dead for real, and Spider-Man wakes from his coma. Peter has lot's of explaining to do and damage repair for all his odd behavior the last two years (caused by Otto Spider-Man). Fans rejoice that Peter is back after a two-year absence and a revitalized Spider-Man returns to his wise-cracking ways. Fine'.

Take that to the bank, folks. Lame......

Avatar image for ganthetsward20
Ganthetsward20

724

Forum Posts

2126

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 23

User Lists: 3

Edited By Ganthetsward20

@FadeToBlackBolt: Well guys, the + is that Dan Slott is still writing this so its planned out, right? My one big concern is that they just lost readership cause I'm not a huge Peter Parker fan and now that it was Otto in his head and Pete was dead I was all " THIS IS SO FREAKING COOL AND ORIGINAL" I was really enjoying the issue and sure i was thinking "man ottot is a douche" but i was expecting that to change over the course of time. Thats his problem in this story. He's got to learn to throw out his old ways and act like the good guy. But not like Peter Parker. Then I got to the end and decided maybe i wont be picking up any more supierior spider-man

Avatar image for fadetoblackbolt
FadeToBlackBolt

23389

Forum Posts

8725

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 25

User Lists: 6

Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@Tony_Shark said:

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Tony_Shark said:

@Ganthetsward20 said:

I dont want peter back!

Me either.

This is why I love the Ultimate universe: Big changes give real consequences. Big changes shake the way everything used to be. They only move forward.

Except that those big changes only ever screw over good characters.

So what?

Life isn't perfect. Captain America died, Stark lost most of his mind at one point, etc.

At one point. And that would actually make sense. 
 
The Ultimate Universe's best character (Reed Richards) was turned evil for absolutely no reason. Writer incompetence strikes again.
Avatar image for overlander
Overlander

618

Forum Posts

8952

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 10

User Lists: 3

Edited By Overlander

Loved it! This really nails what I've been thinking and feeling around the story.

A person is more than just their memories. There is a soul in the body and that doesn't budge for science...not even Octavius science. While I've tried to give Dan Slott a healthy dose of suspended disbelief, it still rings hollow. But your angle makes it work, whether that is the arc this takes or not.

Thanks Tony!

Avatar image for stmichalofwilson
StMichalofWilson

5643

Forum Posts

29688

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 4

User Lists: 107

Edited By StMichalofWilson

@G-Man said:

Ock never left his body and Peter was never forced to reside in Ock's. What about their actions, thoughts and speech? We know they possess each other's memories. Peter was able to see Ock's full life and vice versa. Ock's plan to switch bodies could have failed but resulted in only each other's memories being forced into the minds of the other. This massive invasion could have taken dominance in both, making them think they actually were the other person in another body. In other words, Doc Ock could have thought his plan worked and now he was really Peter Parker in Ock's body and Spider-Man now thinks he's Ock in his body. That might be a little confusing but just think about it.

When Ock's body died, it could have simply been Ock that did actually die. Only he thought he was Peter Parker, trying to switch bodies. The current SUPERIOR Spider-Man could still really be Spider-Man, only under the influence of Ock's memories, making him think he's Ock in the Parker body. At some point, these memories could be sorted out and SUPERIOR Spider-Man could realize he's not actually Ock at all. He's always been Peter Parker.

One simplified way to think about it is when a person is intoxicated. We hear about people doing things when influenced by alcohol that they normally wouldn't. Peter Parker could be drunk on Doc Ock. He could be influenced by those memories that were shoved into his brain which is making him think he's really Ock in his own body. At some point this will wear off or an expert will come in and help Peter sort out who he really is. That way, "Peter Parker" never died at all. Doc Ock didn't necessarily win. Any intimate relations between Peter and Mary Jane would have nothing to do with Octavius (and everyone can STOP bringing that up).

The fact is, Octavius REWROTE Peter's brain with his brain patterns and vice versa. This doesn't mean they actually SWITCHED bodies (like Freaky Friday).

Finally! G-Man says what I've been thinking all this time! This actually makes a lot of sense!

Avatar image for tony_shark
Tony_Shark

2168

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Tony_Shark

@FadeToBlackBolt said:

@Tony_Shark said:

@Ganthetsward20 said:

I dont want peter back!

Me either.

This is why I love the Ultimate universe: Big changes give real consequences. Big changes shake the way everything used to be. They only move forward.

Except that those big changes only ever screw over good characters.

So what?

Life isn't perfect. Captain America died, Stark lost most of his mind at one point, etc.

Avatar image for comicfan93
ComicFan93

27

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By ComicFan93

Of course they're bringing Peter back. Too many fans are cancelling their subscriptions. Marvel may have made a lot of money with Amazing Spide-Man #700, but it's gonna lose a LOT more with Superior Spider-Man.

Avatar image for dedpool
Dedpool

692

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By Dedpool

Already being teased! http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=72378

Avatar image for kennybaese
kennybaese

1241

Forum Posts

1

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 12

User Lists: 0

Edited By kennybaese

I definitely see Peter's personality re-asserting itself as the way that they bring him back. Ignoring the theoretical existence of the soul, who a person is is defined by their memories. If Otto has all of Peter's memories and his own and Peter's memories are powerful enough to push Otto toward being a hero, there's no reason they couldn't overpower Otto's personality altogether.

Either way, I like the change so far, but then I'm generally a fan of stories that take established ideas and do something crazy with them, so I might be in the minority.

Avatar image for fragmentmind
fragmentmind

92

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By fragmentmind

I would really love it if Peter and Otto merge personalities and become ONE entity with Peter being the dominant one, but still uses Otto's brain for tech and stuff.

Avatar image for degraaf
DEGRAAF

8431

Forum Posts

72

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By DEGRAAF

This is so close to how i have been thinking of it. Did they really switch if neither lost anything in the process but instead only gain more knowledge, experience, etc.? I think either

A.) they are both in Peters body

or

B.) Like the story said Peter has been rewritten and confused

I would kind of like to see the first one only because its more plausible that Ock died and if Norman really did take the corpse (dont know why he would, idk how close Ock and Norman were) i see the end result being Otto forgetting everything he knew about Peter and his real relationship to Spiderman as well as ending up in a new body. All of Spidey's villains have been getting upgrades which is hard to do to someone who's main appearance is grafted to him. So the next best thing to do is replace his current body with another one (possibly a clone of Peter Parker with new mechanical limbs or something)

Avatar image for Trodorne
Trodorne

2773

Forum Posts

6416

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 58

User Lists: 15

Edited By Trodorne

@Tony_Shark said:

@Ganthetsward20 said:

I dont want peter back!

Me either.

This is why I love the Ultimate universe: Big changes give real consequences. Big changes shake the way everything used to be. They only move forward.

I second this

Avatar image for spinningwebs
spinningwebs

36

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By spinningwebs

G-Man have you been using Ock's tech to read my mind? Cause this is what I've been saying.

Avatar image for nappystr8
nappystr8

1548

Forum Posts

859

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 19

User Lists: 5

Edited By nappystr8

This was the same thing I thought when I read #699.

Avatar image for smart_dork_dude
Smart_Dork_Dude

3366

Forum Posts

95

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 8

Edited By Smart_Dork_Dude

Okay, this is a great idea. Ock may be a genius, but only when it comes to robotics, radiation, chemicals, things of that nature. Being able to completely move one mind from another and still somehow have all the memories, which doesn't make sense seeing as how if the mind goes with them the memories would too, is kinda out of his league.

Really, put like this it reminds me of a Doctor Who episode "The New Doctor" where a man found a Cyberman's infostamp that held detailed records of The Doctor. He set it off by accident which caused him to legitimately think he was a new incarnation of The Doctor. It all got sorted out though, but still the same premise was there.

With this theory in mind, I might end up buying Superior just to see if it's right and choosing to believe it is since it means Peter didn't really die in the most unheroic and outright painful ways a hero could go. Mary Jane is still an idiot though for not catching the difference

Avatar image for gothamred
GothamRed

2619

Forum Posts

3474

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 23

Edited By GothamRed

I'm going to be honest, I stopped caring about this rather quickly. Mainly cause we've been talking about it almost non-stop since superior was announce. All and all Peter coming back doesn't mean all that much because Marvel is still going on without him, this isn't affecting the company as a whole it's a pretty minor blip on Marvel's scale right now. If he comes back fine if not Marvel still has tons of books completely unaffected by this. Though likely Peter will come back because Comic Books are a medium where Status Quo is God.

Avatar image for bob808
bob808

6853

Forum Posts

30039

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 9

Edited By bob808

I hope Doc Ock stays as Spider-Man.

Avatar image for fadetoblackbolt
FadeToBlackBolt

23389

Forum Posts

8725

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 25

User Lists: 6

Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@Tony_Shark said:

@Ganthetsward20 said:

I dont want peter back!

Me either.

This is why I love the Ultimate universe: Big changes give real consequences. Big changes shake the way everything used to be. They only move forward.

Except that those big changes only ever screw over good characters.
Avatar image for supremehyperion
SupremeHyperion

1811

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 1

User Lists: 12

Edited By SupremeHyperion

I'm fine with oc staying as peter,

Avatar image for powerhouse1122
powerhouse1122

94

Forum Posts

0

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By powerhouse1122

Great theory, one of the best articles Ive ever seen.... But still feeling down until I get parker back.... This(theory) may be really great but im still confused -.- I really just hope on petey coming back

Avatar image for feargalr
feargalr

1245

Forum Posts

431

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 0

Edited By feargalr

@goatman2112: Yeah I guess, but they weren't ever the primary Spider-man.

Avatar image for lvenger
Lvenger

36475

Forum Posts

899

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 50

User Lists: 18

Edited By Lvenger

Interesting theory. Quite thought provoking on the issue of whether Peter is truly gone. Nice to see you've spotted a loophole and haven't spoilt Superior Spider-Man 1 for me.

Avatar image for frozenedge2
frozenedge2

1465

Forum Posts

164

Wiki Points

0

Followers

Reviews: 0

User Lists: 5

Edited By frozenedge2

I hope Peter doesn't come back for a while now. The guy needs some time to rest up in Heaven of wherever dead heroes go in Marvel. At least now he can talk with Uncle Ben and all the other dead superheroes