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Comic Vine Battle of the Week Results: TMNT vs. Deadpool

The Heroes in a Half Shell vs. The Merc with a Mouth! Who did the Comic Vine community vote for? Who does the CV staff side with? And who does DEADPOOL writer Gerry Duggan think will take the victory? Plus, a tease for next week's battle!

Ladies and gentlemen, we have our first tie! The poll went back and forth as the week carried on, but it was neck and neck the entire time and it looks like the Comic Vine community thinks this is the closest match yet! It's perfectly understandable why the debate was so perfectly divided, too. While the IDW Ninja Turtles have a solid numbers advantage and potential teamwork on their side, Deadpool's healing factor is by no means an easy obstacle to overcome, especially when taking into account his more than formidable level of skill, agility and physicals. Both sides earned 46% of the votes and 8% deemed it "too close to call." Well, it looks like we have our first match that is actually "too close to call!"

This is the best team-up since Vanilla Ice appeared in 'TMNT II: The Secret of the Ooze.'
This is the best team-up since Vanilla Ice appeared in 'TMNT II: The Secret of the Ooze.'

As for me, I created this one with the belief it was "too close to call." Yeah, the turtles have a numbers advantage and teamwork on their side, but I think their teamwork will fall apart once Deadpool starts running his mouth. Raphael is still easily set off and issue #21 proved he's totally prone to disregarding Leo's orders. Additionally, the IDW turtles only kill as a last resort, so going for lethal measures won't be an immediate factor, and they're immediately unaware strikes that would hinder most may only be a temporary annoyance for Wade. They'll obviously adjust their actions upon seeing that, but it is worth noting. But on the other hand, their shells do provide additional protection from Wade's blades (say that 10 times fast), and while their teamwork may not be a big factor, they are quite skilled (though I'd dispute not as good as a well-written Wade) and thanks to that, someone -- most likely Leo or Raph -- may eventually land a hit which counts as a temporary incapacitation.

All in all, I can see a perfectly rational argument being presented for either side. Deadpool's biggest advantages are his skill (yes, believe it or not, he is very skilled), insanely accelerated healing factor and his ability to disrupt their teamwork with his nonstop banter (also, a single grenade could be a rather big wild card if used properly). Meanwhile, there's no denying the numbers advantage the turtles have and when combined with their more than adequate skill, physicals and weapons, they do indeed have what it takes to potentially win in due time. One-on-one they'd absolutely go down against a properly written Wade, but as a group? The potential is definitely there. At the end of the day, this is without question a fight that would be awesome to see regardless of who's left standing. But who cares what I think? Let's see what a few other people have to say about this melee!

Viner Argument of the Week for 'too close to call' is by Revendawn

"I was going to get into a whole big thing, but I think we all know how this fight really ends. There is no way these characters meet and don't end up just sharing pizza, video games, and hanging out. So I went with too close to call, but only because it was the only neutral option. The truth is when the Turtles meet Deadpool, we win.

I was going to get into a whole big thing, but I think we all know how this fight really ends. There is no way these characters meet and don't end up just sharing pizza, video games, and hanging out. So I went with too close to call, but only because it was the only neutral option. The truth is when the Turtles meet Deadpool, we win."

Mat 'Inferiorego' Elfring, Comic Vine staff writer

"Gregg, you're insane. These guys aren't going to fight. Here's what happens, the turtles spot Deadpool walking around, whistling. They confront him because well, I dunno. Deadpool sees the turtles and is all like "OMG! Talking turtles? I'm going to build you an aquatic habitat." The turtles are very confused by this, but they feel they need a cooler looking living space, so Deadpool builds them a really bad looking, giant habitat, in an old aquarium. The turtles are displeased with it, but welcome Deadpool as a friend because he did something nice for them. Then, they all go and kill Krang together. The end. The real winner is whoever makes this into an actual comic book."

Corey 'Undeadpool' Schroeder, Comic Vine staff writer

"For once, I think one of these is too close to call, but not for the reasons you might think. Now I figure the turtles get the drop on Wade because, despite being a ninja assassin, stealth and subtlety were never his strong suit, but once the battle begins, and it would be an even one as the turtles ARE incredibly skilled, but work best as a unit, and Deadpool is not only versatile, but entirely unpredictable. However, midway through the fight, something...strange would start to happen. A beautiful appreciation (mostly with Raph and Mikey) for the surreal, bizarre trash-talk that Deadpool throws out. And within Deadpool might awaken a deep respect for these strange, anthropomorphic animal ninjas who smell faintly of cheap Italian food. And maybe, just maybe...they stop fighting, put away their weapons, and invite Deadpool out...for some pizza...then Deadpool shrugs, says he prefers Mexican and drops a stun grenade, bodysliding away before incapacitating the fearsome foursome. Deadpool takes it, but keeps it non-lethal."

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Gerry Duggan, co-writer of DEADPOOL

"My son and I play TMNT VS Deadpool quite often. Those are some of his favorite toys. He’s not allowed to read Deadpool or even look at DP comics, so he’s more familiar with the turtles. I think he would say they would beat up DP, but I’m going with whoever has eaten less pizza."

Lastly, here's a tease for next week's battle. Check the homepage on Monday to see who they are! .

Fairly obvious... but this will give you time to research and prepare for Monday.
Fairly obvious... but this will give you time to research and prepare for Monday.

Previous 'Comic Vine Battle of the Week' results

Want to suggest a battle? Feel free to comment below or send it to Gregg via Twitter.

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Black Widow vs Green Arrow of course

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Awesome. I like both, DeadPool and TMNT.

As or next weeks battle.... Black Widow vs. Green Arrow?

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My boy Green Arrow is going to kick Black Widow's ass.

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black widow vs. the green arrow

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Yep Black Widow vs Green Arrow

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Wow the first too close to call bout. I guess it did happen. I can make out Green Arrow on the right but I can't see who the gun toting femme fatale is.

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@lvenger:

It's Black Widow, the Avenger.

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Good turn out for Deadpool and the Turtles! And its obvious next week is gonna be Natalya Romanov vs. Oliver Queen.

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Too close to call?!?!?!? Gregg, HOW COULD YOU?!?!?!?!

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I like Green Arrow more than Black Widow but the movie version of Black Widow which I guessing is the fight for next week. The movie version is practically super human.

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@wolverine08: Yes I can recognise her now. Calling Green Arrow as the winner there.

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Black widow vs Green Arrow (using the Black widow poster from the Avengers)

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Green Arrow stomps Black Widow. Green Arrow can match batman in H2H combat which has been debated he can handle Captain America.

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Where's that Green Arrow pic from?

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Lara Croft vs. Robin Hood?!? (just kidding)

I like how this fight ended in a tie~ it's really a perfect result... hats off to you Katsman

Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Wades blades-Bwades lades DAMN!!!

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ik its widow and green arrow, but i think they are the live action versions , which makes things interesting

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Avengers' Black Widow and Arrow's Green Arrow

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Black Widow has a soviet Super Soldier Serum and far more experience than Green Arrow

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So clearly Black Widow from the MCU and Green Arrow from Arrow.

But my next question is, are we strictly using their live-action feats?

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Movie and TV versions of Black Widow and Green Arrow?

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Natasha vs. Oliver... *chuckles

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Comic versions: Green Arrow wins

Movie Black Widow vs Arrow: the vigilante wins

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TV Green Arrow vs. movie Black Widow? TV Arrow can't match movie Widow's crazy close-quarters skills (remember this is TV Ollie, not comics Ollie who can go toe-to-toe with Batman). So I'm guessing if she closes (and 50ft is not far), she wins, and the question is whether Ollie sticks her before then.

She'd be on him in two seconds, and shooting while she comes.

I'd say comics Arrow beats comics Widow, and movie Widow beats TV Arrow.

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Green Arrow is a master martial artist who was trained by Natas (arguably the best fighter in DC) and has taken on seven men in fights before. He can take down Widow.

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Movie Widow vs CW's Arrow.

Oliver has this.

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Are you gonna do another one of does Batman always win?

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Green Arrow is a master martial artist who was trained by Natas (arguably the best fighter in DC) and has taken on seven men in fights before. He can take down Widow.

Was that Comics Arrow though? Cause this would be TV show Arrow by the looks of it.

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Isn't that the TV show, "Arrow"'s poster? or at least it looks somewhat like that...

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Green Arrow wins...just sayin'

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movie black widow vs arrow?

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It really was too close to call. That was my vote. There would be nothing more out of character than these two sides not becoming good buds. Wade is a lot more vicious and well armed than Casey Jones but he's just as, if not more corrupted by pop culture than the turtles. The fans win this one easy.

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Wow, look at all these Green arrow Fans that came out of the woodwork. Where are you guys on the Battle Threads when Green Arrow is rated lower than Robin?

Also Movie Widow stomps hard.

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Next fight I think is black widow against green arrow?

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Oliver's abs' win.

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Wow, look at all these Green arrow Fans that came out of the woodwork. Where are you guys on the Battle Threads when Green Arrow is rated lower than Robin?

Also Movie Widow stomps hard.

No she doesn't, CW's Arrow has shown greater hand to hand feats than her, and whatever the starting distance is, can take her down before she gets close. The only reason Widow had the upper hand on Clint in Avengers was because they were fighting in close quarters, he could barely draw his bow, let alone fire accurately.

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Green Arrow is a master martial artist who was trained by Natas (arguably the best fighter in DC) and has taken on seven men in fights before. He can take down Widow.

OOoooh no-no- NO he really can't... don't dismiss her that easily. She has trained her whole life! Raised from very early childhood by the U.S.S.R.'s "Black Widow Ops" program, trained in combat and espionage at the covert "Red Room" facility. There, she was biotechnologically and psycho-technologically enhanced, providing a rationale for her unusually long and youthful lifespan.

She's been trained by the USSR version of a Weapon X program, Winter Soldier, Daredevil, Captain America, and SHIELD. She is a world class athlete, gymnast, acrobat, and aerialist capable of numerous complex maneuvers and feats, expert martial artist (including karate, judo, ninjutsu, aikido, savate, various styles of kung-fu, and boxing), she's a marksman and weapons specialist, as well as having extensive espionage training. She is also an accomplished ballerina, and a sexy thang to boot!

The Soviet Super-Soldier Serum resulted in her physical and mental abilities being enhanced slightly beyond human limits coupled with her biotechnological enhancements making her body resistant to aging and disease and dat ass heals at an above human rate as tragically making her sterile (not that that matters in a fight, but at least she wont be worried about taking a kick to the gut). Her bodily tissues have been augmented to superhuman levels. She possesses exceptional durability, strength, endurance, and stamina... her agility is greater than that of an Olympic gold medalist with which she can coordinate her body with balance, flexibility, and dexterity easily. Due to the Soviet variant Super-Soldier Serum, the white blood cells in her body are efficient enough to fight off any microbe, foreign body and other such nastiness, keeping her healthy and immune to most, if not all infections, diseases and disorders, AND she'll beat him in a drinking contest cause it takes quite a bit for her to become intoxicated, not to mention she's virtually immune to being stunned with gas or overcome with pheromones.

Black Widow's reaction time is crazy enhanced and she exceeds the peak of human efficiency and capability, bordering on super-duper-human level. It's even possible for Natasha to dodge a bullet even at point blank range.

I say good luck to poor old outclassed Green Arrow, and all the fanboys who think this'll be a cakewalk. Black Widow will wipe the floor with him, then dress him up in a french maid outfit and make him clean her apartment. OH YEEEeaaaahhh!

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the idiot with the spray paint on his face loses. badly.

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@k4tzm4n How many votes per side? I know it was super close, so how many votes did each side get?

Black Widow and Green Arrow... DUH!

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scarlett johansen vs stephen amell

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@wolverine08 said:

@mynamewasdeleted:

Green Arrow is a master martial artist who was trained by Natas (arguably the best fighter in DC) and has taken on seven men in fights before. He can take down Widow.

OOoooh no-no- NO he really can't... don't dismiss her that easily. She has trained her whole life! Raised from very early childhood by the U.S.S.R.'s "Black Widow Ops" program, trained in combat and espionage at the covert "Red Room" facility. There, she was biotechnologically and psycho-technologically enhanced, providing a rationale for her unusually long and youthful lifespan.

She's been trained by the USSR version of a Weapon X program, Winter Soldier, Daredevil, Captain America, and SHIELD. She is a world class athlete, gymnast, acrobat, and aerialist capable of numerous complex maneuvers and feats, expert martial artist (including karate, judo, ninjutsu, aikido, savate, various styles of kung-fu, and boxing), she's a marksman and weapons specialist, as well as having extensive espionage training. She is also an accomplished ballerina, and a sexy thang to boot!

The Soviet Super-Soldier Serum resulted in her physical and mental abilities being enhanced slightly beyond human limits coupled with her biotechnological enhancements making her body resistant to aging and disease and dat ass heals at an above human rate as tragically making her sterile (not that that matters in a fight, but at least she wont be worried about taking a kick to the gut). Her bodily tissues have been augmented to superhuman levels. She possesses exceptional durability, strength, endurance, and stamina... her agility is greater than that of an Olympic gold medalist with which she can coordinate her body with balance, flexibility, and dexterity easily. Due to the Soviet variant Super-Soldier Serum, the white blood cells in her body are efficient enough to fight off any microbe, foreign body and other such nastiness, keeping her healthy and immune to most, if not all infections, diseases and disorders, AND she'll beat him in a drinking contest cause it takes quite a bit for her to become intoxicated, not to mention she's virtually immune to being stunned with gas or overcome with pheromones.

Black Widow's reaction time is crazy enhanced and she exceeds the peak of human efficiency and capability, bordering on super-duper-human level. It's even possible for Natasha to dodge a bullet even at point blank range.

I say good luck to poor old outclassed Green Arrow, and all the fanboys who think this'll be a cakewalk. Black Widow will wipe the floor with him, then dress him up in a french maid outfit and make him clean her apartment. OH YEEEeaaaahhh!

Both of you guys are wrong, going by the silhouettes, He's using movie and tv versions of the characters, I doubt either of their comic feats will be applicable.

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@mynamewasdeleted said:

@wolverine08 said:

@mynamewasdeleted:

Green Arrow is a master martial artist who was trained by Natas (arguably the best fighter in DC) and has taken on seven men in fights before. He can take down Widow.

OOoooh no-no- NO he really can't... don't dismiss her that easily. She has trained her whole life! Raised from very early childhood by the U.S.S.R.'s "Black Widow Ops" program, trained in combat and espionage at the covert "Red Room" facility. There, she was biotechnologically and psycho-technologically enhanced, providing a rationale for her unusually long and youthful lifespan.

She's been trained by the USSR version of a Weapon X program, Winter Soldier, Daredevil, Captain America, and SHIELD. She is a world class athlete, gymnast, acrobat, and aerialist capable of numerous complex maneuvers and feats, expert martial artist (including karate, judo, ninjutsu, aikido, savate, various styles of kung-fu, and boxing), she's a marksman and weapons specialist, as well as having extensive espionage training. She is also an accomplished ballerina, and a sexy thang to boot!

The Soviet Super-Soldier Serum resulted in her physical and mental abilities being enhanced slightly beyond human limits coupled with her biotechnological enhancements making her body resistant to aging and disease and dat ass heals at an above human rate as tragically making her sterile (not that that matters in a fight, but at least she wont be worried about taking a kick to the gut). Her bodily tissues have been augmented to superhuman levels. She possesses exceptional durability, strength, endurance, and stamina... her agility is greater than that of an Olympic gold medalist with which she can coordinate her body with balance, flexibility, and dexterity easily. Due to the Soviet variant Super-Soldier Serum, the white blood cells in her body are efficient enough to fight off any microbe, foreign body and other such nastiness, keeping her healthy and immune to most, if not all infections, diseases and disorders, AND she'll beat him in a drinking contest cause it takes quite a bit for her to become intoxicated, not to mention she's virtually immune to being stunned with gas or overcome with pheromones.

Black Widow's reaction time is crazy enhanced and she exceeds the peak of human efficiency and capability, bordering on super-duper-human level. It's even possible for Natasha to dodge a bullet even at point blank range.

I say good luck to poor old outclassed Green Arrow, and all the fanboys who think this'll be a cakewalk. Black Widow will wipe the floor with him, then dress him up in a french maid outfit and make him clean her apartment. OH YEEEeaaaahhh!

Both of you guys are wrong, going by the silhouettes, He's using movie and tv versions of the characters, I doubt either of their comic feats will be applicable.

I like how you assume... let's wait for the post to know which 'version' he's gonna use... k?

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Wow, this is one time where I should have voted and it may have made a difference.

I figured most people would realize how outclassed the turtles are...but nope. Disappointing.

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@mynamewasdeleted: If history is anything, K4tz specifically uses the pics up there as the characters. So like when it was Ultimate Cap as opposed to 616 Cap, this should be Movie Widow vs TV Arrow.

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Black Widow vs Green Arrow.........I didn't vote this time but maybe I should have Deadpool should've taken slight majority IMO

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Movie Black Widow vs TV Green Arrow.....

I have no idea what the TV green arrow is capable of. Is he even called green arrow or is it just arrow? I saw 2 episodes. Could not watch it after that

And im so happy with todays result!

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Emerald Archer vs Red Room Widow, should be a good one