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Best Battles in New Comics: 11-20-15

This week, we're featuring fights from STAR WARS: VADER DOWN #1, SUICIDE SQUAD #14, and STAR TREK/GREEN LANTERN #5.

It's that time of the week. Time to look at the latest edition of Best Battles in New Comics. Comics often feature big battles with superheroes fighting supervillains. Sometimes we even have superheroes fighting other superheroes. Get ready to cheer and possibly cringe at the brutal punches being thrown.

There will be some spoilers below!

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STAR WARS: VADER DOWN #1

(By Jason Aaron, Mike Deodato, and Frank Martin Jr)

Darth Vader follows a lead to where Luke Skywalker is currently at. It's his goal to track him down and turn him to the Dark Side. When he comes out of hyperspace, he learns that Luke isn't exactly alone.

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The Rebel pilots were having a drill above the planet. Their drill just got lively as they found themselves facing an Imperial ship. Little do they realize it's Vader piloting the ship.

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He takes out a whole squadron so they order all units to attack.

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We all know they don't stand a chance against Vader. But they figure if they can get a lock on him with the torpedoes, it's all over. What do you think?

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But guess what? Luke is in his X-Wing. He does some fancy flying of his own and then...things get really interesting. You won't want to miss this story.

SUICIDE SQUAD #14

(By Sean Ryan, Philippe Briones, and Blond)

Amanda Waller tries getting the Squad to listen to her since she knows Vic Sage, their government appointed supervisor, is a traitor. In order to get to him, she takes the team offline. That means the neck bombs in them are no longer turned on. You can imagine how that makes them feel.

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It's time for Deadshot, Boomerang, and Harley Quinn to get their revenge against Amanda for everything she's made them do under her control.

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She seems to be handling the team pretty well. She even tries reminding them that they outnumber her and could be working together. She also has some advice for Boomerang about being too dependent on his weapons.

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She keeps talking to them, trying to explain that they need her. Eventually, being outnumbered does take its toll. Deadshot uses Harley's attack as a distraction to get the drop on her. Looks like this could be the end for Amanda.

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Amanda does still have a pretty big ace up her sleeve. So don't worry about her.

STAR TREK/GREEN LANTERN #5

(By Mike Johnson, Angel Hernandez, and Alejandro Sanchez)

There's a War of Light happening in Federation space. Sinestro has attacked and Hal Jordan has taken over as Captain of the Enterprise.

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It's not just Sinestro they have to deal with. You can see Atrocitus above. And there's also Larfleeze wanting all the shiny things for himself.

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When Kirk wakes up from being knocked out, Hal and Carol Ferris decide to go out to the fight to stop Sinestro and company.

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Sinestro breaks free of Hal's grasp and unleashes his light against him.

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Lucky for Hal, he has some friends that just arrived to save his "butt."

Honorable Mention

I HATE FAIRYLAND #2 by Skottie Young & Jean-Francois Beaulieu)

It was short and sweet, almost like Gert. She's short but definitely not sweet. Using the axe of an assassin sent after her, she causes all sorts of mayhem.

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That's it for this week. Thanks to CalvinR for his suggestions.

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What are your top three fights from this latest round of new comics? Support what you love and tell the world below. Also, don't forget to make nominations every week in this thread, especially if you feel we missed a great battle. If you're sad we missed one, speak up next week! You can even make suggestions via Twitter and use the hashtag #CVBattles.

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Edited By Ultimate_Knight

I did not know that Amanda Waller is THAT good. Gertrude has made Gilad proud with that axe...

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Posted By WollfMyth209
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Posted By Dredd_78

@wollfmyth209: http://blog.oxforddictionaries.com/2011/11/grammar-myths-prepositions/

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Posted By SirFizzWhizz

Star Trek Ships stand no chance vs lanterns, why are they even in a battle?

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Posted By Owie

Vader Down was pretty great. Looking like he's about to do the same thing to a bunch of troops that he just did to those X-Wings, too.

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Posted By huthimamwa

@wollfmyth209: there's nothing grammatically wrong with ending a sentence with a preposition.

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Edited By Ambaryerno

Vader Down: Ok, look, Vader's a badass, no question about that. But this is taking shit to ridiculously Mary Sue-levels.

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Posted By mak13131313

All great battles this week!

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Edited By TheExile285

Star Trek/Green Lantern looks like something I should be reading.

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Posted By StMichalofWilson

Epic battles this week! Vader Down and Star Trek/Green Lantern are great.

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Posted By lebefrei

@ambaryerno: Agreed. This also just doesn't feel like it matches his power level in the films. If he'd been this much of a badass then there is little excuse for the loss of the Death Star. They're overdoing it, rewriting his history and scale to godlike levels.

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Posted By MuyJingo

@wollfmyth209 said:

Darth Vader follows a lead to where Luke Skywalker is currently at.

Did you just end your sentence with a preposition?

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It's not being a GN. The writing on this site has some pretty serious issues sometimes, and it's appalling since they actually ask people to pay for it. How about some basic quality control and editing?

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Posted By RetconCrisis

@muyjingo: But there is nothing wrong with ending a sentence with a preposition in certain contexts. In this context, there is no problem from doing so.

The only grammar issue I see all the time is using a singular person (he/she) with "their" instead of him or her.

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Posted By SirFizzWhizz

@lebefrei said:

@ambaryerno: Agreed. This also just doesn't feel like it matches his power level in the films. If he'd been this much of a badass then there is little excuse for the loss of the Death Star. They're overdoing it, rewriting his history and scale to godlike levels.

That happens with anything. Power creep is a common factor for all great fiction.

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@lebefrei said:

@ambaryerno: Agreed. This also just doesn't feel like it matches his power level in the films. If he'd been this much of a badass then there is little excuse for the loss of the Death Star. They're overdoing it, rewriting his history and scale to godlike levels.

Couldn't agree more. At this point I can't even consider the comics part of my personal Star Wars canon. Luke is also way too powerful (though on a different scale than Vader).

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Posted By SynCig

@lebefrei: And yet the Marvel Star Wars comics have still stuck closer to film power levels than the EU/Legends ever did. I agree that it is a bit ridiculous but at least we haven't seen a Sith Lord devour every soul on a planet to gain their power like the old EU.

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Posted By shihan

Nice & awesome battle

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Posted By MuyJingo

@muyjingo: But there is nothing wrong with ending a sentence with a preposition in certain contexts. In this context, there is no problem from doing so.

The only grammar issue I see all the time is using a singular person (he/she) with "their" instead of him or her.

I'm not going to argue with you on that point, I'd just have to look it up. My point was that the posts don't get proofread, even to a cursory level. They often contain typos, spelling mistakes and ill-formed sentences, such as "I like Superman, if not more, than the next person." from essential comics on 11/11 post. For a site whose primary content is written articles, I don't find that acceptable, especially when they ask for money. But then, I don't really come to the site for the articles. I just thought I'd point out that there are legitimate issues...

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Posted By HolySerpent

@lebefrei said:

@ambaryerno: Agreed. This also just doesn't feel like it matches his power level in the films. If he'd been this much of a badass then there is little excuse for the loss of the Death Star. They're overdoing it, rewriting his history and scale to godlike levels.

That happens with anything. Power creep is a common factor for all great fiction.

Especially if they become popular. Look at Harley Quinn. She was never that good off a fighter. Now shes taking out former league of shadow members

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Posted By RetconCrisis

@muyjingo: Yeah, I agree with you. At least basic grammar proofreading or editing should be put in place for these kinds of articles, considering they aren't just independent blogs.

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Posted By justice teen

I love this Waller.

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@lebefrei said:

@ambaryerno: Agreed. This also just doesn't feel like it matches his power level in the films. If he'd been this much of a badass then there is little excuse for the loss of the Death Star. They're overdoing it, rewriting his history and scale to godlike levels.

Well the Death Star was only lost because Han came in and saved the day at the last second. He was wrecking Red/Gold Squadrons just as easy he was doing in Vader Down. Only difference here, instead of 2 squadrons(Red/Gold) he was dealing with 3.

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Posted By Jacthripper

@lebefrei said:

@ambaryerno: Agreed. This also just doesn't feel like it matches his power level in the films. If he'd been this much of a badass then there is little excuse for the loss of the Death Star. They're overdoing it, rewriting his history and scale to godlike levels.

Well the Death Star was only lost because Han came in and saved the day at the last second. He was wrecking Red/Gold Squadrons just as easy he was doing in Vader Down. Only difference here, instead of 2 squadrons(Red/Gold) he was dealing with 3.

And if you want to get really technical, it's because Vader's subordinate pilot caused him to spin out, he had no control over the situation from that point forward.

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Posted By Ambaryerno

@wolfrazer said:
@lebefrei said:

@ambaryerno: Agreed. This also just doesn't feel like it matches his power level in the films. If he'd been this much of a badass then there is little excuse for the loss of the Death Star. They're overdoing it, rewriting his history and scale to godlike levels.

Well the Death Star was only lost because Han came in and saved the day at the last second. He was wrecking Red/Gold Squadrons just as easy he was doing in Vader Down. Only difference here, instead of 2 squadrons(Red/Gold) he was dealing with 3.

And if you want to get really technical, it's because Vader's subordinate pilot caused him to spin out, he had no control over the situation from that point forward.

There's also the fact that Vader was only fighting them 1-on-1 (or 3-on-3 if you want to be technical) while the Rebel pilots were in the midst of their torpedo runs and therefore couldn't disengage or maneuver out of the way. IE, perfect, sitting ducks. We only see Vader take down ONE pilot who was outside the trench, and that was Red Leader. Y'know, the guy who a few seconds earlier ALMOST blew up the Death Star if his torpedoes hadn't "just impacted on the surface."

So even though the tactical situation was stacked in Vader's favor, he STILL nearly failed to defend the Death Star even without having his fighter clipped and knocked out of control by a collision.

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Posted By Wolfrazer

@ambaryerno: Right, but it's not like he was expecting Han Solo to come in at the last second and save the day, otherwise, the only hope of destroying the Death Star Luke Skywalker would have been blown outta the skies(space?).

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Posted By PrinceAragorn1

vader was a freaking boss there.

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Posted By Ambaryerno

@ambaryerno: Right, but it's not like he was expecting Han Solo to come in at the last second and save the day, otherwise, the only hope of destroying the Death Star Luke Skywalker would have been blown outta the skies(space?).

Like I said: LAST hope. Had Red Leader's timing been a TEENSY bit better when releasing his torpedoes, HE would have been the one getting the medal.

So no, the situations are NOT comparable. Vader in the Original Trilogy was certainly powerful, but still very much mortal. According to how he's presented in THIS book, Vader should never have been taken by surprise by Han in the first place. He would have sensed him coming, and reached out and crushed the Falcon with the Force while juggling Luke's torpedoes with the other.

Hell, why even bother with the AT-AT assault in Empire? According to Vader Down, he could have walked in ALONE and taken out Echo Base.

At NO POINT in the Original Trilogy was Vader EVER depicted as this godlike. You can argue the limitations of the special effects if you like, but that doesn't change that what's ON SCREEN is what's canon.

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@ambaryerno: No Luke was the only one capable of making the shot, the computers were in error hence why Red Leader missed despite the fact the targeting computer was on point and that Obi-Wan told Luke to use The Force as the targeting computer wouldn't cut it.

Vader was clearly focused on Luke, hence why not sensing Han.

The difference between Empire and Vader down is, Vader is all alone, backed into a corner. Empire he had the full resources of his fleet at his disposal, there was no point in going all out for him there. Plus the Rebels were entrenched in defensible positions with cannons and Snowspeeders, compared to Vader Down where the majority of the Rebel Force is just Troopers with some tanks that came to Vader with no defensive position.

Just because in the OT he wasn't portrayed as such, doesn't mean he can't be. The movies only tell a part of the story.

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Posted By mogo1

Is captain kirk going to get a ring or what! I was hoping this issue would end with it but it hasn't. I will feel let down if he doesn't save the day with a ring

I'm a huge GL fan but this is a star trek story

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Posted By Ambaryerno

@ambaryerno: No Luke was the only one capable of making the shot, the computers were in error hence why Red Leader missed despite the fact the targeting computer was on point and that Obi-Wan told Luke to use The Force as the targeting computer wouldn't cut it.

Vader was clearly focused on Luke, hence why not sensing Han.

The difference between Empire and Vader down is, Vader is all alone, backed into a corner. Empire he had the full resources of his fleet at his disposal, there was no point in going all out for him there. Plus the Rebels were entrenched in defensible positions with cannons and Snowspeeders, compared to Vader Down where the majority of the Rebel Force is just Troopers with some tanks that came to Vader with no defensive position.

Just because in the OT he wasn't portrayed as such, doesn't mean he can't be. The movies only tell a part of the story.

All I see is a bunch of handwaves and excuses. This is BATMAN level of Mary Sue. The same sort of over the top crap the old EU liked to pull with Luke, and was rightly criticized for.

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Edited By Wolfrazer

@ambaryerno: Not really handwaving or excusing when it's true. Not sure why people get bent out of shape over this.