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Battle of the Week RESULTS: Green Arrow vs. Black Widow

Are bullets really better than arrows? The Comic Vine crowd has picked a winner!

"My name is Oliver Queen. After one week of voting, the Comic Vine community has selected me as their Character of the Month and now I have one goal: to live up to the title. But to do so, I can't simply stand by and accept their praise. To honor the title, I must fight. I must be... in the battle of the week."

Green Arrow's first challenger: Black Widow! The community has been debating and voting on this fight since Monday and one character took a confident lead. Will Natasha's skills as a spy and her onslaught of projectiles put Oliver in his place? Will Ollie's accuracy with arrows defeat the Marvel character? Well, it turns out a decent majority of voters think Green Arrow would be the winner if these two got into a fight!

You may be finished with Black Widow, but you're not even close to done yet, Ollie. You have three more fights to go!
You may be finished with Black Widow, but you're not even close to done yet, Ollie. You have three more fights to go!

The Emerald Archer took a comfortable lead, taking in 58% of the votes. Marvel's talented Avenger wasn't totally obliterated, though. She earned 36% and 6% think this fight can honestly go either way. A fight like this is interesting because one good hit from either weapon truly can turn the tide. If Oliver properly uses a trick arrow, it's either going to leave Natalia vulnerable for a moment or two or downright make her struggle to get back up (e.g. explosive). Meanwhile, Black Widow has a few tricks up her sleeve as well and, thanks to her weapons, she could potentially break Oliver's bow or even disable one of his arms with an accurate shot. Then when it comes to physicals and hand-to-hand combat, they are relatively close and good cases were presented which explained that neither really walks all over the other in these qualities. One could dispute that Widow's more tactical and has better stealth capabilities, but it's a matter of thinking how frequently that could benefit her in a scenario where the bullets and arrows are already flying through the air. However, in the end it was Oliver's uncanny accuracy and plethora of trick arrows which earned him the win. He has what it takes to hold his own if the fight gets close, but the huge amount of options he has at his disposal can definitely make a difference if used correctly. There's plenty of trick arrows he can grab with his hand and use in close proximity, too. Now, let's see some of the posts Viners made about this match!

LokiOfAsgard1

"Green Arrow would take it. The new 52 version has improved a lot, especially in h2h. I feel like even if Black Widow's h2h is a little better, Ollie would still win due to better gear."

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Dedpool

"GA is good but I have to give it to Widow. On top of her training from the Red Room, she's had all that experience working for SHIELD and Avengers. And people in the Marvel U tend to rub off on each other or at least do more training together. Like Cap trained Stark in hand to hand combat, Spidey learned Kng-Fu from Shang Chi, etc. So I don't think it'd be a stretch to say she's sparred with and traded moves with some of the best combatants in the MU like Cap, Wolverine, Shang Chi and Iron Fist, and most likely Hawkeye. And therein lies my point. She has experience against a very accomplished bowman! So I think in the end Widow would pull out the win."

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Owie

"I'm going with Green Arrow here, and I am normally a supporter of Black Widow even when others see her as the underdog. (The popular belief that she has no feats or is a C-lister is not true.)

However, this basically comes down to trick arrows. New 52 Green Arrow is pretty solid in H2H himself, and could give Widow a run for her money even there (although he would eventually lose). However, from 30', he has the advantage. She's got her Widow's bite electrical blast, which could put him down if she connects, but he's a pretty solid dodger and they're not super-great from a distance. She often carries pistols, but again he has a decent chance of dodging and/or only being wounded. Her wristlets also have gas and a grappling line, but she doesn't use them as often and again from a distance they're not as useful.

Meanwhile he has numerous trick arrows, and can get several off in time before closing, or before she goes into stealth. He often shoots multiple arrows at once. So I think the trick arrows will do her in.

Granted that she's a better dodger (by a decent amount) so it's kind of his superior accuracy and good dodging vs her superior dodging and good accuracy. But his weapons have the edge--even given that she's very familiar with the idea of trick arrows from knowing Hawkeye.

If they go to stealth, she's got it then. She's a superior tactician for sure, and better at stealth. But, I don't think it will get to that."

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DrThanos91

"Although I am excited for Ollie getting his shot at being in the much deserved and earned spotlight, I say this match is 60 % leaning towards Natty..I'm not ruling out his skills and feats, trust me we all know what the Emerald archers capable of, but I would like to point on in terms of this city being on limits for all usage. Black Widow has the advantage, being a spy she has dealt with situations such as this, her intellect and strategical skills allow her to quickly assess the fight and formulate a way of combating Ollie's arrows and fighting style.

Once again I'm not bashing or saying Ollie has no chance,I am merely saying I consider these a fact to be in her favor."

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That's it for this week! Check back Monday for a new fight with Oliver Queen. If you want to suggest a match for an upcoming Battle of the Week for Green Arrow, tell us below or share it via twitter.

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"I'm just about done here" was probably one of my favorite moments from Lemire's Green Arrow.

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Finally, he wins something! :D

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I don't care who wins, that's a fight I want to see!

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Why did Ollie have to win? Nothing against him but his skills stanks (not projectile of course).

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a match up between GA against Ninjak or Eternal Warrior would be great

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@zhurong: Greg already did GA vs Punisher a year ago. Frank won. Elektra's an interesting match, though. a GA vs Shredder match would also make an interesting match

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This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

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This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

No, you were not (though I forget who I was going to vote for)

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Green Arrow vs. Conan

Green Arrow vs. Black Knight

Green Arrow vs. Shredder

Green Arrow vs. Predator (you gotta admit, that would be an interesting fight.)

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@surfingthehighway said:

This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

No, you were not (though I forget who I was going to vote for)

I remember two other people complaining and they were also trying to vote Widow. Either way I know it wasn't on purpose or anything, I'm just pointing it out. I didn't have time to get into the site yesterday so I ended up not voting.

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This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

Then make a case for Black Widow and have a debate with the people who voted GA. It doesn't really matter who won the poll, it's just a bit of fun.

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@johnny_blaze:

Green Arrow vs. Conan

Green Arrow vs. Black Knight

Green Arrow vs. Shredder

Green Arrow vs. Predator (you gotta admit, that would be an interesting fight.)

Fair enough. But if AHH-nold could nail the Predator with an explosive arrow without being spotted by his superb scanning equipment, then I GOTTA believe that Ollie could do the same. Or even worse with stuff like Cryo-arrows. To a reptilian species like the Predators, that could be devastating, IMO...

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@surfingthehighway said:

This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

Then make a case for Black Widow and have a debate with the people who voted GA. It doesn't really matter who won the poll, it's just a bit of fun.

I think you may have misunderstood me. I couldn't vote Widow because of a programming bug. I think this may have been the case for many of those who were trying to vote Widow as well. Maybe this bug kept people from voting either way, but if it just kept people from voting BW then it didn't matter wether I made a case for her or not.

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@rick_grayson said:

@surfingthehighway said:

This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

Then make a case for Black Widow and have a debate with the people who voted GA. It doesn't really matter who won the poll, it's just a bit of fun.

I think you may have misunderstood me. I couldn't vote Widow because of a programming bug. I think this may have been the case for many of those who were trying to vote Widow as well. Maybe this bug kept people from voting either way, but if it just kept people from voting BW then it didn't matter wether I made a case for her or not.

I do understand what you mean, I'm just saying if you think it was too one sided you might aswell make a case for BW. Also, I tried to vote for GA and got the same bug so it's likely both sides were affected.

Not being argumentative, I just think if the poll was bugged then lets debate it properly.

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@surfingthehighway said:

@rick_grayson said:

@surfingthehighway said:

This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

Then make a case for Black Widow and have a debate with the people who voted GA. It doesn't really matter who won the poll, it's just a bit of fun.

I think you may have misunderstood me. I couldn't vote Widow because of a programming bug. I think this may have been the case for many of those who were trying to vote Widow as well. Maybe this bug kept people from voting either way, but if it just kept people from voting BW then it didn't matter wether I made a case for her or not.

I do understand what you mean, I'm just saying if you think it was too one sided you might aswell make a case for BW. Also, I tried to vote for GA and got the same bug so it's likely both sides were affected.

Not being argumentative, I just think if the poll was bugged then lets debate it properly.

Ohh, OK then, man. I thought the bug had only affected BW, so making a case for her would have been irrelevant. If it affected both contenders then the best man won.
By the way, this was an exams week so it was impossible for me to make a case either way. I genuinely didn't have the time.

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@rick_grayson said:

@surfingthehighway said:

@rick_grayson said:

@surfingthehighway said:

This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

Then make a case for Black Widow and have a debate with the people who voted GA. It doesn't really matter who won the poll, it's just a bit of fun.

I think you may have misunderstood me. I couldn't vote Widow because of a programming bug. I think this may have been the case for many of those who were trying to vote Widow as well. Maybe this bug kept people from voting either way, but if it just kept people from voting BW then it didn't matter wether I made a case for her or not.

I do understand what you mean, I'm just saying if you think it was too one sided you might aswell make a case for BW. Also, I tried to vote for GA and got the same bug so it's likely both sides were affected.

Not being argumentative, I just think if the poll was bugged then lets debate it properly.

Ohh, OK then, man. I thought the bug had only affected BW, so making a case for her would have been irrelevant. If it affected both contenders then the best man won.

By the way, this was an exams week so it was impossible for me to make a case either way. I genuinely didn't have the time.

Fair enough, I was just interested to see a proper battle. I don't know enough about either character to really get involved but was very interested to see how this one ended up. Hopefully next weeks battle is as good (and works properly).

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Nice battle. Voted for BW

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How about Green Arrow vs. Hawkeye? Or has that one been done?

I would also like to see Green Arrow vs. Deadpool.

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@johnny_blaze:

Green Arrow vs. Conan

Green Arrow vs. Black Knight

Green Arrow vs. Shredder

Green Arrow vs. Predator (you gotta admit, that would be an interesting fight.)

Fair enough. But if AHH-nold could nail the Predator with an explosive arrow without being spotted by his superb scanning equipment, then I GOTTA believe that Ollie could do the same. Or even worse with stuff like Cryo-arrows. To a reptilian species like the Predators, that could be devastating, IMO...

Predator in the movie is basically a little kid Predators, let him face an Elite Predator. Black Knight could be interesting...but Ebony Blade and his armor are pretty powerful compared to what Ollie is carrying.

@k4tzm4n:

Other suggestions:

Green Arrow vs Deadshot

Green Arrow vs Bullseye

Green Arrow vs Robocop

Green Arrow vs Kate Bishop

Green Arrow vs Kenshin Himura

Green Arrow vs Harley Quinn

Green Arrow vs Solid Snake

Green Arrow vs Buffy The Vampire Slayer

Green Arrow vs Moonknight

Green Arrow vs Huntress

Green Arrow vs Any Of The Main Guys From Assassin's Creed

Green Arrow vs Snake Eyes

Green Arrow vs Redhood

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@lukehero: he already did a segment against moon knight and lost.

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Black widow failed the city

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Green Arrow vs Snake Eyes. I like that one.

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That was a fantastic match-up. I'm not impressed by the results, but can understand how Ollie could win. I suppose it's possible.

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Woot! Even though I couldn't vote due to the tech error others have noted, Ollie won! Makes my day.

I'm wondering if one of these fights of the week are going to include Clint Barton? If so I wonder how many aneurysm's it will cause.

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Green Arrow vs Snake Eyes. I like that one.

Snake would womp Ollie. Dude has had his face burnt off and killed everybody who opposed him on at least two different occasions. He is so accurate with his sword that he can hit people to (if memory serves.) the millimeter of where he wants.(During combat he once had to stab Scarlett so she could infiltrate Cobra. He hit near enough to her heart they fell for the ruse. Nobody could get that close and not be trying to kill her. they thought.) He's a beast with an Uzi, a trench knife, his fists and feet...hell, any weapon he has ever touched, I'd reckon. Snake's a level or so above Ollie.

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@risingbean: I haven't read anything on Snake, other than what info he has on here and from the two G.I Joe movies. Lol. I know he should be vastly better in comics, but I just thought it would be a good fight. I likewise don't know that much about Ollie, just that I would like to see a fight between them. Lol

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@surfingthehighway said:

This isn't fair. Due to an error in the site I was unable to vote Black Widow. And know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

No, you were not (though I forget who I was going to vote for)

I couldn't vote either.

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@thevivas said:

@risingbean: I haven't read anything on Snake, other than what info he has on here and from the two G.I Joe movies. Lol. I know he should be vastly better in comics, but I just thought it would be a good fight. I likewise don't know that much about Ollie, just that I would like to see a fight between them. Lol

Snake Eyes has fought Decepticons. (Generally Crossover feats are nixed, but these happened in continuity. As a matter of fact in the same story arc that he stabbed Scarlett.) He's beaten up Cobra Commander while CC was in a mech suit.. He's had his face burnt off with aviator fuel, and decided he wasn't going to go to the hospital until after the mission. He's killed more ninja in comics then anybody in comics except for Wolverine. Snake Eyes is one of the scariest men in comics. Hands down.

@granitesoldier Anything you want to add?

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Green Arrow vs The Arrow (from Arrow :) )

or Justin Hartley GA vs Stephen Amell Arrow :D

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@thevivas: I will give you three stories to get you started. If you like those, IDW and some other companies also had the rights to G.I. Joe so you may want to look for their stuff as well. I'm gonna go old school with the original Marvel series. It was my personal golden era.

Silent Interlude. G.I. Joe issue #21. No dialogue at all. Plot is pretty much Snake Eyes sneaking into Destro's castle to save a kidnapped Scarlett.

The Snake Eyes Trilogy G.I. Joe issues 94, 95, 96 Snake Eyes has just gotten his face repaired. Baroness shoots Scarlett in the head. Sorta like Die Hard with ninja.

The Untold Origin. G.I. Joe issue 144. An expanded origin for our favorite Joe. Good stuff.

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Green Arrow definitely takes this foam Arrow then normal Arrow to the head GG BW.

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Green Arrow vs Batman Beyond

make it happen plz

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Green Arrow Vs Huntress

Green Arrow vs Catman

Green Arrow vs Hawkman

Green Arrow Vs Aquaman

Green Arrow vs Katana

Green Arrrow vs Moon Knight

Green Arrow vs Sabretooth

Green Arrow Vs Carnage

Green Arrow vs Green/Hob Goblin

Green Arrow vs Spiderman

Green Arrow vs Electra

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GREEN ARROW IS KING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALso GREEN ARROW vs NINJAK

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Didn't get to vote, but would probably have gone with GA.

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A lot of information on Black Widow states she is on par with Cap, being a result of the Russian version of the SS program.

That information never seems to be honored or even acknowledged. Is there any truth to it?

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Can't wait to see Green Arrow vs Hawkeye, that ought to be a good battle in the comments section.

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@muyjingo: correct,although I wouldn't say on par with cap,but yeah your right she is a rusiina super soldier( dont mean to sound rude,sorry)

and you're right it never gets acknowledged or mentioned

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@lvenger said:

Can't wait to see Green Arrow vs Hawkeye, that ought to be a good battle in the comments section.

I wouldnt... i already know how most of these battle of the weeks are gonna turn up (im thinking of boycotting this months) and id rather it get saved for when it will be given thought and careful thought and comparison of scans

as it stands now i see both sides saying

"Screw you Green Arrow is better" or "Screw you Hawkeye is better"

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Nice battle, but I do agree GA would take this with slight majority, that aside there was some nice points made by viners on Katzman's OP. Can't wait for the next GA battle.

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