@batwatch: Since the character is called Curtis Holt (not Michael Holt), he will most likely be Mister Terrific the same way Sara Lance was the (Black) Canary.

Came here for some Constantine.

Is Diggle going to become Guardian? That's all I can imagine with that helmet.

Felicity ruined the trailer although the trailer was not so good either and i hope see Helena in this Season

Looking good so far.

1. I see Constantine and Star City

2. I see my girls, Black Canary and Speedy

3. I see my girl Nyssa fighting Malcolm

4. Damien Darhk already seems cool

5. Crazy eyed Thea is intriguing

6. Felicity seems funny again

7. Curtis Holt seems interesting

8. Sara Lance's return

However, Diggle's helmet...

the better the show gets, the more comicvine hates it. Typical.

Why are they trying to make him Batman? I swear this show is stripping Green Arrow of his identity. I mean, they don't even call him Green Arrow (I refuse to call him "the Arrow". It's dumb. "The Hood" sounded cooler). In the beginning, we had awesome flashback scenes that delved into what made him who he was, as well as explain why and how he does what he does. But in season 3's dumb "Hong Kong Adventures", we basically just sit around waiting for the kid to die. So without those being any good, what's left for the Green Arrow character?

The show tries to make him "the one Ras thinks deserves to be his successor". Since when? Ras gives a crap about Oliver Queen? Because of one fight? (which was intense, i admit, but come on. theres no way he survived that). What qualities does Oliver possess to lead a literal League of Assassin's? The reason Ras "respects" Bruce is because of his intellect, cunning, and multitude of other skills that Oliver doesn't possess. What did he see in Oliver? I have no clue.

Now, all of a sudden, Oliver is "the reason bad people exist in this city". Are you serious? Just start calling him Batman and get it over with! But for reasons unknown to me, this show's adaptation of the DC universe refuses to acknowledge Batman's existence. First, we get "Nyssa" instead of Talia (what?), then we get a Harley Quinn tease (come on, who didnt catch that?) without any mentioning of the Joker EVER. Heck, he even fought Solomon Grundy - before he was Solomon Grundy!

Now? How about some good ol' "Batman-ology" thrown into the recipe that is our new and improved Green Arrow? "He creates the very monsters he's supposed to stop"? That is a classic Batman argument! And for the record, I can't be the only one who noticed that in season 3 he literally switched from using his ominous, unique voice changer to actually speaking in "grumbling, throaty Batman voice". It's kind of pathetic. Oh, and let's not forget "he has a son he doesn't know exists". Sure, that's in the comics, but they just threw that plot device in there and forgot about it. I mean, the next time you see the mother, it's not even in Arrow, it's in the Flash!

I'm still not sure I'll be continuing this show. The first two seasons were great, but now it feels like this show is losing focus. And Diggle's Magneto helmet isn't helping.

I hope this finds its way again. Last season was almost unbearable. I am going to give this just one more chance.

I guess I really am one of the few people that like Season 3 lmfao

Arguing that there's no way a character in a universe based off of a comic book always strikes me as so incredibly silly.

And in terms of line from Lance about how Oliver's the reason for evil people existing, that's really not something that's unique to Batman at all. Superheroes in general have for a long time now been accused of being the ones that give rise to villains, or being the people responsible for a variety of terrible events happening in the DC and Marvel U. So while I personally don't like the claim and think its silly (Though also, there's nothing to say that whenever Lance makes it in the show that its going to be a universal opinion or something that won't be countered down the line anyways) someone throwing that claim at a hero doesn't make the hero Batman, just like jumping across rooftops doesn't make someone Batman.

@the_stegman: THIS. I'm really sick of the mentality some people have nowadays when it comes to entertainment. If you mess up just once then you're branded a screw up for life. Season 1 and 2 of Arrow were great but Season 3 was meh so let's trash the show and jump ship? It's incredibly annoying. Even if Season 4 ended up being just as meh as Season 3, you still have 2 good seasons and 2 meh seasons. That's 50/50 and yet people would still see the bad outweighing the good even though they're even. This "glass half empty" mentality makes me weep for the future of our society.

Matt Ryan is too god damn good to keep for only one episode. He better be a recurring character, or I will be livid.

What was so bad about season 3?

@sinestro_gl: The plot. The ending. Laurel. Thea dying. Ra's. Pretty much everything.

seems more like a movie to be honest.

i really want oliver with laurel. Not that cry baby felicity.