Water hand

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#1 Posted by the_red_viper (12541 posts) - - Show Bio

I've heard (numerous times) that Aquaman's water hand can dehydrate people on touch. However I never actually found any scan of Aquaman doing this. Does anyone have such scans? Thanks :)

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#2 Posted by wbr17 (3516 posts) - - Show Bio

I never saw it and when i ask for scans nobody never shows me. I think it's all a misunderstand. In issue #3 or #4 of lady of he lake arc he used the waterhand to counter the magic of an atlantean magical armor that Rodunn was using at time, it has water in it making atlantean survive out of water for longer time. Later he defeats an colossal magical creature with his hand, but he does that by breaking the spell not by dehydration.

But he might used it in JLA but i never read it and again no one ever showed me.

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#3 Posted by batmannflash (6299 posts) - - Show Bio

Never seen it either. so idk

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#4 Posted by ComicStooge (22062 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I've never seen this either.

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#5 Posted by BlackWind (9790 posts) - - Show Bio

He only did it once, IIRC. Also the Lady of the Lake told him to not use the hand that way.

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#6 Edited by Fallschirmjager (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicfan11 might have the scan.

I don't. I got these though, not that it answers your question.

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Detatching / various examples of its healing powers / dispelling magic / scrying / hydrokinesis powers

It also can harden and form into other shapes, shoot water blasts, openportals to other dimensions and pretty much eliminates Aquaman's need hydrate.

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#7 Posted by patrat18 (11728 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea never seen that scan.

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#8 Edited by cosmicallyaware1 (7308 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm hunting for it. heard of it............apparently it doesn't exist?

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#9 Posted by Fallschirmjager (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

i'm hunting for it. heard of it............apparently it doesn't exist?

It never happened in Aquaman's main series. So if it did, it happened in some one shot or something.

Its listed on the official DC wiki for its powerset, but I haven't seen the scan.

Besides, the Water Hand is specifically given to Arthur so he can "heal the world". The Water Hand's healing properties are extremely powerful and the Lady of the Lake wanted it used only for that purpose. She even got mad when he was fighting too much with it.

So I don't really see it being used that way, even if its within its capabilities.

And its not like he needs it anyway, the hands' abilities are hax enough.

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#10 Edited by MysticMedivh (32250 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager said:

@comicfan11 might have the scan.

I don't. I got these though, not that it answers your question.

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Detatching / various examples of its healing powers / dispelling magic / scrying / hydrokinesis powers

It also can harden and form into other shapes, shoot water blasts, open portals to other dimensions and pretty much eliminates Aquaman's need hydrate.

Just adding onto your feats.

Taken from Aquaman's Comic Vine wiki page:

Water-Hand (Magic)

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The mechanical harpoon hand was replaced by a magical hand made out of water from the secret sea, given to him by the Lady of the Lake which grants Aquaman numerous abilities. Ones such as the ability to control water on a massive scale (like creating, controlling and splitting colossal tidal waves plus creating hard water construct's), the ability to dehydrate anyone he touches with it, killing them instantly, the ability to change the shape and density of the hand (for example Orin can make his hand into a sword or harder than steel), shoot jets of scalding water, healing abilities, the ability to create portals into mystical dimensions, communicate with the Lady of the Lake through the water bearer hand and the ability to nullify magic even from powerful sorcerers like Tempest and utilize magic of it's own to dispel potent reality warps by individuals like Ocean Master. Since the transformation to the Dweller and his return to the living, Aquaman now appears to have a normal hand. Whether he retains any mystic abilities has yet to be determined.

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#11 Posted by Chimeroid (9183 posts) - - Show Bio

he cant dehidrate like that. he controls water with it by expanding the hand to encompass the water he wants to control.he is capable of entering people with water hand and then he could drain

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#12 Posted by wbr17 (3516 posts) - - Show Bio

No. Aquaman never dehydrated anyone.

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#13 Edited by EcstaticGrace (6948 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been wanting to make a thread about The Waterhand's abilities and info on it, but I'll just post everything here since it's named Waterhand.

First of all Waterhand Aquaman to my knowledge has never dehydrated anyone. What he has done was absorb the magic out of things Neron cursed Black Manta, A sea creature morphed by Hagen I believe, and etc.

Undoing Sorcery

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Part of Sins of Youth just a look at Black Manta in the Manta Suit
Part of Sins of Youth just a look at Black Manta in the Manta Suit
A weakened Aquaman undoing Neron's sorcery
A weakened Aquaman undoing Neron's sorcery
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How the Thirst was weakening the Waterhand
How the Thirst was weakening the Waterhand
The power of Neron's contracts
The power of Neron's contracts

The reason I suggest that the power of the Water Hand was weakened was because, for one the story implied it and here's how.

A weakened Aquaman

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I share the power of this hand with The Lady of The Lake
I share the power of this hand with The Lady of The Lake

"The hand you wield is an aspect of me"

During the arc and around the power he had when he was healing Black Manta

His power companion and himself were weakening as The Thirst got stronger
His power companion and himself were weakening as The Thirst got stronger
"The Thirst has taken two fingers, but there's 'enough' left of the healing hand"

Basically the above scene states that Aquaman is acknowledging his power with the Water Hand is at a low. 2 fingers suggest he only has 1/2 of his original power since the Lady said 4 sisters (fingers) going down and we lose control of the Waterhand. Yet even on 1/2 the power he was able to undo Neron's sorcery.

The Secret Sea/Dimensions/Reality

The Secret Sea was what the Waterhand was connected to also in a way. Through the Waterhand Aquaman has access to the secret sea and several other water dimensions.

The Secret Sea

Getting to the Secret Sea
Getting to the Secret Sea
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The Secret Sea in the above scans is in a way explained as a Universal Conscious. Every Idea or Thought is what the Sea is composed of.

Aquaman with the Water Hand can see through physical reality
Aquaman with the Water Hand can see through physical reality
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The Secret Sea is Anti-Magic

Creatures of the Secret Sea are Anti-Magic
Creatures of the Secret Sea are Anti-Magic
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Creates a Portal to Earth.

First of all in a way Arthur could technically dehydrate people but it also wasn't him but technically was him.

Who is The Thirst?

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Well for one

"This time it's you Arthur"

The Thirst was Aquaman.

"We're two sides of the same coin"

The only person The Thirst couldn't drink dry was Aquaman and the reason why was in a way they were the same person. Aquaman was suppose to be "The Light" and The Thirst was all the negative stuff about his soul, his "darkness". They were only allowed to battle because of positions Aquaman wielding the Bearer and The Thirst being his dark half. During the arc though The Thirst dehydrated Humans, Valkyries, and Goddesses so he wasnt really limited. If you had a soul he could dehydrate you and then you'd become his slave. Unless of course you had a Waterhand and we're his light side. The Thirst is probably his most power villain not including Quisp ofcourse.

The Water Hand also allowed Aquaman the ability to control water, and heal the sick, injured or dead/near dead (to an extent)(Recharge)

I think the Anti-Magic stuff about the Waterhand was the coolest perk though as well as healing ofcourse. I feel like that's why Aquaman was taken out of the picture in World WAR 3 because of the nature of Teth and his powers and how Aquaman could counteract that.

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#15 Posted by Chimeroid (9183 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecstaticgrace: water hand still can't drain people. Arthur cant even control water remotely. the tirst draomed people using the chalice, something arthur doesn't have. and they are not the same person.

what issues are thhe deep sea devil stories, I never read that one

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#16 Edited by EcstaticGrace (6948 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: They technically are the same person that's what it even said during the arc.

It can't get any more clearer then The Lady of the Lake, saying "This time the "The Thirst" is you" and by that I mean That the Thirst is like in a way a reflection of Aquaman but a negative one.

On top of that The Chalice and The Thirst are connected in the same regard that Aquaman and The WaterHand are. The Thirst even in the arc says me and "The Chalice are one in the same"

To top it all off The Thirst and Aquaman merge into "The Waterbearer" no longer wielding the Chalice yet still going for the attempt of draining the Lady of the Lake.

You'll have to go further in depth with the stories your asking about, cause I don't get what you mean.

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#17 Posted by Chimeroid (9183 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: They technically are the same person that's what it even said during the arc.

It can't get any more clearer then The Lady of the Lake, saying "This time the "The Thirst" is you" and by that I mean That the Thirst is like in a way a reflection of Aquaman but a negative one.

On top of that The Chalice and The Thirst are connected in the same regard that Aquaman and The WaterHand are. The Thirst even in the arc says me and "The Chalice are one in the same"

To top it all off The Thirst and Aquaman merge into "The Waterbearer" no longer wielding the Chalice yet still going for the attempt of draining the Lady of the Lake.

You'll have to go further in depth with the stories your asking about, cause I don't get what you mean.

sry, you just used an out of context quote to prove that Thirst. Who existed for thousands of years before Arthur was born and acted as the Thirst for previous water bearers is the same person as Aquaman. It is simply wrong. Them being one and the same is by the fact that they are two parts of the WaterBearer. Not two parts of Aquaman.

And water bearer doesn't come from aquaman it is the other way around. Once the Lady gave arthur the hand he became a new part of the equation, but that is it. That doesn't turn Thirst into Aquaman.

And yes, they are one and the same, but not in the way you are using here. They are one and the same as in - We are both waterbearer, and there is only one waterbearer.

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#18 Posted by EcstaticGrace (6948 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecstaticgrace said:

@chimeroid: They technically are the same person that's what it even said during the arc.

It can't get any more clearer then The Lady of the Lake, saying "This time the "The Thirst" is you" and by that I mean That the Thirst is like in a way a reflection of Aquaman but a negative one.

On top of that The Chalice and The Thirst are connected in the same regard that Aquaman and The WaterHand are. The Thirst even in the arc says me and "The Chalice are one in the same"

To top it all off The Thirst and Aquaman merge into "The Waterbearer" no longer wielding the Chalice yet still going for the attempt of draining the Lady of the Lake.

You'll have to go further in depth with the stories your asking about, cause I don't get what you mean.

sry, you just used an out of context quote to prove that Thirst. Who existed for thousands of years before Arthur was born and acted as the Thirst for previous water bearers is the same person as Aquaman. It is simply wrong. Them being one and the same is by the fact that they are two parts of the WaterBearer. Not two parts of Aquaman.

And water bearer doesn't come from aquaman it is the other way around. Once the Lady gave arthur the hand he became a new part of the equation, but that is it. That doesn't turn Thirst into Aquaman.

And yes, they are one and the same, but not in the way you are using here. They are one and the same as in - We are both waterbearer, and there is only one waterbearer.

Think of it as reincarnation if you will... I'm not saying that The Thirst was always Aquaman that's where your getting mixed up..

The Thirst was the Shadow aspect of whoever was The present Waterbearer. In modern times it was Aquaman. It was his shadow aspect not the last guy or the guy before that.

Aquaman brang The Thirst back to life by how he used The Waterbearer in violence (Physical against Rodunn). So it was that dark aspect of his that recreated the Thirst.

I really don't know how it gets any more explanatory than Aquaman saying him and The Thirst are one of the same coin, or The Lady of the Lake saying this "time" it's you. Note the "Time" part of that. Meaning it wasnt always.

Bearer means that who bears, Aquaman bears the Waterhand. I didn't say the Waterhand came from Aquaman either what I suggested was that he was "The Waterbearer" what the volume suggested was he was The Lady of the Lake's chosen "Waterbearer".

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Read this carefully.

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#19 Edited by Chimeroid (9183 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecstaticgrace: he has no soul and is animated by the new bearer. but he has all the memories of his past lives so he is clearly a separate entity. it's juat his animation source and personality that changes.

also just because the thirst can do it doesnt mean arthur can too, and vice versa

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#20 Posted by wbr17 (3516 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecstaticgrace: @chimeroid: Cool. I also think that Thirst and Aquaman are different beings, the villain being his dark part is more a philosophical thing.

I don't remember Aquaman opening a portal to other dimensions, only to the Secret Sea. Did I miss something?

I like the healing and anti-magic properties but not so much the water manipulation.

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#21 Edited by EcstaticGrace (6948 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid said:

@ecstaticgrace: he has no soul and is animated by the new bearer. but he has all the memories of his past lives so he is clearly a separate entity. it's juat his animation source and personality that changes.

also just because the thirst can do it doesnt mean arthur can too, and vice versa

I never suggested because The Thirst can do it Aquaman can to, your making implications that I didn't say or attempt to make. Aquaman was The Light Aspect of the equation he was suppose to heal and unite the world, The Thirst was the Dark aspect he killed by dehydration and wanted to conquer and enslave the planet.

I'm not suggesting The Thirst had a soul, I'm suggested the bad stuff about Arthur (his rage, malice, and selfishness) is what transferred over. It might not have been part of his soul but it was some of his mind.

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@ecstaticgrace: @chimeroid: Cool. I also think that Thirst and Aquaman are different beings, the villain being his dark part is more a philosophical thing.

I don't remember Aquaman opening a portal to other dimensions, only to the Secret Sea. Did I miss something?

I like the healing and anti-magic properties but not so much the water manipulation.

You'd have to explain why they were one of the "same coin" or why The Lady of The Lake said "This time its you" to Arthur when she said the history of the Waterbearers

Regardless when he became The Waterbearer he had the chalice inside him

He opened it to the Earthly Dimension, As the waterbearer they passed first into Heavenspan, and I assumed every other Water Goddess realm they had access to.

I didn't mind the water manipulation, but I liked the idea of Water being more of this source of life overpowering magic in that aspect and healing. Pretty symbolic and less generic.

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