is aquaman a rip off Of namor?

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#51 Posted by theTimeStreamer (2845 posts) - - Show Bio
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#52 Edited by Blackdog2009 (3661 posts) - - Show Bio

@jack_vii: yea 'Submariner' is so groundbreaking . Give me a break. Love both characters but AQ is a the better of the two.

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#53 Edited by M3th (2107 posts) - - Show Bio

Again, back then... "Namor, Marvel's Aquaman... Namor is Marvel's answer for Aquaman... If it wasn't for Aquaman and Flash, Namor and Quicksilver would never exist... Namor is just another ripoff."

NOW!

Well um... Aquaman is more popular so he's not a ripoff... Um... did you know mermaids existed... soo um... that means they're both ripoffs...

Still if it wasn't for Aquaman, Namor would be long gone so he's not a ripoff...

Um... ahhh He's more of an improvement."

Yeah yeah yeah... argue the technicalities all YOU want.

Namor was created first simple as that so eat it.

-m3th.O.D.-

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#54 Posted by braedenalberti (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Namor was one of the first comic book superheroes to be created, only a year or two after superman himself. To say he is a rip off of aqua man is just nonsense, especially after dc gave the new 52 aqua man behavior that basically mirrored namor's

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#55 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio

@braedenalberti: First of all Aquaman acts nothing like Namor nor does he look like him and second of all neither was the the first king of the seas style superhero

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#56 Posted by braedenalberti (11 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: well, from what I've seen, Namor has always been a difficult, hard nosed king of Atlantis for quite a while whereas aquaman was at the top of the lamest superhero list being all jolly and talking to clownfish until dc took notes and gave aquaman the tough guy treatment as well.

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#57 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio
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#58 Posted by MadFacedKid (6596 posts) - - Show Bio

Some say he is some say he isnt. I just want to know...

Well if you still want to know. Namor came before Aquaman yes thats true, but the main and practically only thing he had was being a sea character which is a ridiculous reason for Aquaman to be deemed a ripoff it would be like calling Superman a ripoff cause Namor flew in comic before him.

I think to be a ripoff it requires more like origin and the main stuff and the Atlantis mythos were presented in Aquaman before they were with Namor. Strongly present in the silver age where he was given the modern origin of being half human/half atlantean in Adventure Comics 260 Namor wasn't really given a origin until Fantastic 4 #4. Even between the 2 im pretty sure Aquaman had a title first and more for that matter.

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#59 Edited by joshmightbe (27562 posts) - - Show Bio

@braedenalberti: Umm, Namor had no idea of his Atlantean heritage until years after he first showed up. When he started he was basically an eco terrorist who occasionally did good things when it suited him.

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#60 Posted by braedenalberti (11 posts) - - Show Bio

All in saying is that DC tends to change their characters' origins a lot and this newest version of aquaman reminds me a lot of Namor.

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#61 Edited by BlackWind (9790 posts) - - Show Bio

How? Aquaman isn't a snob who throws a tantrum and his weight around when people look at him funny.

Even the 90s Aquaman who people love to try and compare to Namor was different. All they saw was "Oh hey, they tried to make Aquaman tough. Must be copying Namor." When in reality Arthur was depressed and lonely throughout most of that era and the anger stemmed from it.

Aquaman is like a minority: People find any reason to try and keep him down. And even if he was a ripoff, guess what? The rip off is doing so much better than the original.

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#62 Posted by LyraFay (2643 posts) - - Show Bio

The funny thing isn't Aquaman more famous than Namor solely for his Superfriends appearance in the 1960s. The interesting thing about Namor was that he was one of the first anti-heroes (unless we count the original Batman) and does have his place in comics early history. Yes, Aquaman is a rip-off of Namor but Namor is basically a underwater version of Conan/Tarzan. So that's that.

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#63 Edited by Heatblaze (10396 posts) - - Show Bio

@jonny_anonymous: May I ask who was the first? Or at least give me a character that predates both of them with the ''king of the sea'' superhero theme.

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#64 Edited by Jonny_Anonymous (45774 posts) - - Show Bio
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#65 Posted by Heatblaze (10396 posts) - - Show Bio
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#66 Edited by Endanger (218 posts) - - Show Bio

@braedenalberti said:

@jonny_anonymous: well, from what I've seen, Namor has always been a difficult, hard nosed king of Atlantis for quite a while whereas aquaman was at the top of the lamest superhero list being all jolly and talking to clownfish until dc took notes and gave aquaman the tough guy treatment as well

Aquaman, while being the lamest Superhero, STILL has more and better stories than Namor.

Aquaman has at least classic stories like The Trench, Death of a Prince, Throne of Atlantis, in which most comic book readers know about.

Namor, doesn't have one single famous story attached to him. Maybe The Depths...maybe.

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#67 Posted by Heatblaze (10396 posts) - - Show Bio

@endanger: Have you even read the New Avengers? Or even post Civil War? Namor is about the same league

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#68 Posted by Endanger (218 posts) - - Show Bio

@endanger: Have you even read the New Avengers? Or even post Civil War? Namor is about the same league

Last time I checked, New Avengers is not a Namor solo book is it? Unless New Avengers stars Namor and HIS supporting cast, it doesn't count.

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#69 Edited by dagmar_merrill (12701 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not like king of Atlantis is a super original idea anyway.

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#70 Posted by Heatblaze (10396 posts) - - Show Bio

@endanger: ok what about Namor breaking an iceberg that led to the discovery that Captain America is still alive? It was in his own book.

Plus you said famous stories attached to him.

New avengers and Initiative submariner are famously attach to him.

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#71 Posted by BlackWind (9790 posts) - - Show Bio

Even if he was a rip off, look where Aquaman is, and look where Namor is.

Aquaman has been blowing up for a while. Namor is still obscure as hell as Marvel hasn't given him a solo title in years.

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#72 Posted by ArranVid (1829 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Aquaman is a ripoff. Aquaman SUCKS, get over it!

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#73 Edited by BlackWind (9790 posts) - - Show Bio

@arranvid: Let me know when Marvel starts actually paying attention to Namor and one of his books lasts this time.

I.e., never.

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#74 Posted by ArranVid (1829 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackwind: Doesn't matter, Aquaman is still a ripoff. Namor forever.

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#75 Posted by seastone98 (4548 posts) - - Show Bio

I like Arthur WAY better but 2 downplay namor's important as a character is wrong he was the first comicbook character 2 fly & the first anti hero plus his look is crazy iconic spock black adam all have been influence by him [look wise] plus he and the human torch [android] were apart of the first comic book crossover

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#76 Posted by JoeTwoFace (91 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, who cares. Aquaman is a better character.

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#77 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (3272 posts) - - Show Bio

i think both are copies of poseidon

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#78 Posted by tparks (11807 posts) - - Show Bio

Neither are completely original. Both are at least slightly ripped off of Poseidon.

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#80 Posted by DementorDad (107 posts) - - Show Bio

Mermaids and mermen are cited in various mythologies across the world, then it means that both are ripoffs ?

Don't forget the exiled children, or children of exiles from lost civilizations. Those go back to at least the old testament.

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#81 Posted by deactivated-5c1d15b8899b0 (11360 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21 said:

Mermaids and mermen are cited in various mythologies across the world, then it means that both are ripoffs ?

Don't forget the exiled children, or children of exiles from lost civilizations. Those go back to at least the old testament.

Exactly!!

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