The "Can Adamantium be Broken/Destroyed" Thread

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#1  Edited By DeadCosmos

I believe marvel says adamantium cannot be destroyed, but I believe there must be someway, because adamantium is "VIRTUALLY" indestructible, it can be destroyed.

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#2  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

adamantium can be destroyed.

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#3  Edited By Dracade102

There must be some force in the universe that could break it. It has to break.

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#4  Edited By Enzeru--defunct

The serpent recently destroyed Captain America's shield by sheer strenght. I'm seeing him for example also being able to do something nasty to Adamantium.
Magneto manhandled the Adamantium more then once aswell.
 
But a straight answer would be ...
The One Above All could turn Wolverine's Adamantium-claws into flowers, or even simply break it them :-7

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#5  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

anti-metal also works. Hulk also damaged Ultron during Secret Wars

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#6  Edited By ReVamp

Beyonder level's can.

People like Thor and Hulk can't.

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#7  Edited By Joeybagad0nutz
@ReVamp said:

Beyonder level's can.

People like Thor and Hulk can't.


If I remember correctly, they have dented it. And I think that is canon.
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#8  Edited By SC  Moderator

Anything and everything can be broken. In fiction, its even easier to. 

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#9  Edited By PikminMania

@Joeybagad0nutz: @ReVamp: @Dracade102:

Superman's skin can break it, or Silver Surfers.

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#10  Edited By SurelockeHomes

It could easily be done if the writers wanted to. Plus, with all the powerful beings out there, there definitely has to be one who can break/bend it. Was it the humans who first said it was indestructible? Because they could in theory destroy it and say it was a misthought or ccalculation on the humans' part. Kind of like how Thor Dented Captain America's shield and it recently got broken, when it was previously thought to be impenetrable.

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#11  Edited By ReVamp

@PikminMania said:

@Joeybagad0nutz: @ReVamp: @Dracade102:

Superman's skin can break it, or Silver Surfers.

Superman isn't in this continuity, so its best not to bring him into the scene. Secondly the skin itself won't break it, it has more to do with the force applies in combination with said skin. I don't think silver surfer can break it either way. Galactus probably could.

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#12  Edited By PikminMania

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#13  Edited By ReVamp

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I stand very corrected.

EDIT: Nevermind, I do not. I just noticed that wasn't 616 Wolverine, which changes A LOT of things. In the Ultimate Universe for example, the Hulk can break Adamantium (albeit in small quantities) and the Hulk in the Ultimate universe is arguably weaker than his 616 version.

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#14  Edited By SurelockeHomes
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I stand very corrected.

EDIT: Nevermind, I do not. I just noticed that wasn't 616 Wolverine, which changes A LOT of things. In the Ultimate Universe for example, the Hulk can break Adamantium (albeit in small quantities) and the Hulk in the Ultimate universe is arguably weaker than his 616 version.

There's also that that is zombie Wolverine. I'm not completely sure because I can't see the dialogue and the rest of the pictures are small, but to me it looks more like his skin giving way, not the adamantium breaking.
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#15  Edited By PikminMania

@ReVamp: @SurelockeHomes: The zombie universe is supposed to be exactly like the 616 one, except there are zombies. If it was just his skin then wouldn't Wolverine still be able to move his arm?

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#16  Edited By SurelockeHomes
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Well, the decaying of his dead skin could have something to do with it if it was his skin giving way, but again, I can't completely make out the rest of the pictures or dialogue. He shouldn't be able to move it if his muscles or ligaments are torn along with the skin.
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#17  Edited By ReVamp

@PikminMania said:

@ReVamp: @SurelockeHomes: The zombie universe is supposed to be exactly like the 616 one, except there are zombies. If it was just his skin then wouldn't Wolverine still be able to move his arm?

Not really, if there are zombies its not the same, LOL, so you can't really claim that everything is absolutely the same. A lot of worlds are similar, or nearly the same, but end up having the odd difference or two on top of the big difference (which in this case would be zombies)

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#18  Edited By SC  Moderator
@PikminMania said:

@ReVamp: @SurelockeHomes: The zombie universe is supposed to be exactly like the 616 one, except there are zombies. If it was just his skin then wouldn't Wolverine still be able to move his arm?

 
Financially Marvel could wish it to be as successful as Marvel 616, but they know it won't, and since this is fiction, and laws of reality are at creators wishes, therefore Zombie Universe, is actually suppose to be a lot, hugely, different to be 616, because the most, important thing as far as laws of reality that govern 616 Universes to others, are those that apply in real life creatively, not within the narrative consistency.  Lest that's just my understanding of it. 
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it can in the UU

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#21  Edited By Timandm

The fact that Magneto can easily rip it from Wolverine's body tells us that, at the very least, a strong enough magnetic field can rend it... The magnetic field would exert a force on it through the electrons, but it is still a 'force.' That should be enough to suggest that it is possible...

Also, as Enzuru mentioned, the Serpent broke Captain America's shield with his bare hands. Now, the shield is not pure Adamantium, but it's an adamantium / vibranium alloy so it's still nigh indestructible. I think that suggests that it's possible to break adamantium with a strong enough force.

When it comes down to it, it's matter... it has mass and occupies a volume. It is made of atoms. ALL matter can be broken down... In fact, the universe is supposed to collapse back in on itself one day... Can you imagine what would happen if the Adamantium didn't cooperate with the rest of the universe?

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#22  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Joeybagad0nutz said:
@ReVamp said:

Beyonder level's can.

People like Thor and Hulk can't.

If I remember correctly, they have dented it. And I think that is canon.
To my knowledge, Thor only dented Cap's shield when he was Rune King Thor.
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#23  Edited By SC  Moderator

Normal powered Thor has dented a can of it way way back in Avengers. He hit it as hard as he could and was surprised he barely dented it (which is still denting it) that being said like all fiction and all characters own account, these things are inherently flawed and inconsistent usually as soon as a new panel issue, writer takes over.  

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#24  Edited By ReVamp

@SC said:

@PikminMania said:

@ReVamp: @SurelockeHomes: The zombie universe is supposed to be exactly like the 616 one, except there are zombies. If it was just his skin then wouldn't Wolverine still be able to move his arm?

Financially Marvel could wish it to be as successful as Marvel 616, but they know it won't, and since this is fiction, and laws of reality are at creators wishes, therefore Zombie Universe, is actually suppose to be a lot, hugely, different to be 616, because the most, important thing as far as laws of reality that govern 616 Universes to others, are those that apply in real life creatively, not within the narrative consistency. Lest that's just my understanding of it.

*BOOM*

That was the sound of heads exploding. :P

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#25  Edited By cyberninja

Matter Eater Lad +  adamantium= nom nom nom 

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Galactus

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#27  Edited By BatteredArmor

pretty sure it melts

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#28  Edited By TheGoldenOne
@JediXMan said:
@Joeybagad0nutz said:
@ReVamp said:

Beyonder level's can.

People like Thor and Hulk can't.

If I remember correctly, they have dented it. And I think that is canon.
To my knowledge, Thor only dented Cap's shield when he was Rune King Thor.
It was King Thor, not Rune King Thor.
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#29  Edited By PowerHerc

If Cap's shield can be broken, then adamantium can be, too.

Captain America's broken shield.
Captain America's broken shield.
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#30  Edited By Enzeru--defunct

In a What If? Cyclops also managed to shoot Wolverines hand away and lost one of his eyes during the process :-7

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#31  Edited By cliffrice

IN guardians of the Galexcy there was a metal harder than adamantium that could shoot through it. Called dragonite or something like that.

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#32  Edited By Nateron2

Hulk can.... and Bump.

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#33  Edited By nappystr8

I was just reading an old 90's Guardians of the Galaxy comic earlier this week where this came up. Vance Astro's suit was made of adamantium, but he got shot from a bullet of some other more powerful metal that ripped right through it. The name of the metal didn't sound familiar, so I don't think it exists in the current Marvel Universe, but rather is something that will be invented sometime before the 30th century. Even then, this other metal must be somewhat uncommon, as the Guardians seemed very surprised that Astro's suit was penetrated.

But I'm sure there are other things that do currently exist that also would break it.

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@nappystr8:

The metal is called Dragonite, I heard that it is even stronger than cap's shield But idk if there is truth to that.

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#35  Edited By Lucia_Aurelius

Can Wolverine stab himself through the skull with his own adamantium claws?

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Can Wolverine stab himself through the skull with his own adamantium claws?

I believe so. Hence this.

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If Cap's shield can be broken, then adamantium can be, too.

Captain America's broken shield.
Captain America's broken shield.

That's PIS if 616. It shoulda never happened.

All forms of Adamantium to have ever been bent, broken, dented, warped, or otherwise have been retconned to be Secondary Adamantium. True Adamantium is indestructible.

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Gladiator snapped one of Wolverine's claws IIRC.

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#40  Edited By Outside_85

@goldking: Not when you are a skyfather level being:

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Note on the SS scan: Yeah, thats Logans adamatium bones being seperated from his flesh and the claws falling out of their sockets.

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#41  Edited By RisingBean

Based on Adamantium's showings and the energy aura shown, I'd chalk it up to skyfather magi-hax more then brute power.

In the time's Captain America's proto-Adamantium (it's not even technically Adamantium) has been broken, there is context.

The best bet for breaking it is with molecular rearrangement. (such as Ultron's equipment or Magneto's powers) One can also hope for secondary Adamantium or bad writing.

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@goldking: Not when you are a skyfather level being:

Note on the SS scan: Yeah, thats Logans adamatium bones being seperated from his flesh and the claws falling out of their sockets.

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@outside_85:

Yeah, but it'd be so much cooler if, imagine a Skyfather level being grabs a hold of the shield, tries with all his might to snap it, and nothing happens. He can't. Would be awesome.

But it's true.... all forms of Adamantium to have ever been broken, destroyed, or whatever were retconned to be Secondary.

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#43  Edited By GoldKing

Lol, I must comment.... after reading through this site for several years, judging by the comments most people make, you'd think Adamantium wasn't much stronger than a piece of toilet paper. Unbelievable.

It's one of the strongest and most durable substances to ever exist. Literally, post-retcon, it's back to being invulnerable. Let me put it into perspective, and this is going to be controversial.......World Breaker Hulk at max rage would be powerless to do anything to it. Let that sink in.

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#45  Edited By BrockTheRock

Adamantium is indestructible, sometimes you will see Hulk or Thor dent it, but they won't be able to say, rip in half or anything...

The one comic where Hulk throws the "adamantium" statue and does some good damage to it is very clear PiS.

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