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    The Amazon princess, blessed with god-like super abilities, Wonder Woman is one of Earth's most powerful defenders of peace, justice, and equality and a member of the Justice League. She is considered an archetype for many heroines outside of comic book. Her initial origin depicted her as a clay baby brought to life by patron goddess Aphrodite, but in recent years she has been depicted as the daughter of Zeus and Amazon queen Hippolyta.

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    @drgnx:

    inconsistencies happen even characters don't destroy a planet,inconsistencies happen when an speeder is tagged by a someone without super speed,or a powerhouse that takes nuke getting hurt by a regular human,etc,inconsistencies can always happen,it doesn't have anything to do with planet busting feats,it's a lie to say that if you stay away from planet busting feats,inconsistencies won't happen,that's a lie,they happen even with character way below the planet busting level,so there is no reason to stay away from high end feats,inconsistencies happen even with characters that have spider-man level of feats,and sorry for waiting your time king of the universe.

    So basically, your justification for having inconsistencies is that inconsistencies will still happen? Right, so lets just keep adding more?

    Thanks I needed a good laugh...

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    #102  Edited By gokuwarrior

    @drgnx:

    inconsistencies have happended,with high end feats and without them,so your logic is that because inconsistencies happen there shouldn't be high end feats?,by that logic there shouldn't be any kind of feats at all,lo siento pero eso no funciona asi,i think spock is looking at you.

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    #103  Edited By PowerWoman

    @theovoxo: let me tell you what is true wonder woman feats

    pre-crisis wonder woman,earth-two,strength,speed,etc

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    pre-crisis wonder woman ,earth-one

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    pre-52 wonder woman,most powerful wonder woman,stronger than pre-crisis wonder woman

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    this is wonder woman

    read new 52 wonder woman,she even weaker than pre-crisis wonder woman

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    @gokuwarrior: if wonder woman want to show us her muscle strength,lift something is best,destroy planet isnt 100% raw muscle strength,or wonder woman moved earth would be better

    @drgnx: come on man....wonder woman need hige level feats...that not crazy or something

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    @drgnx:

    inconsistencies have happended,with high end feats and without them,so your logic is that because inconsistencies happen there shouldn't be high end feats?,by that logic there shouldn't be any kind of feats at all,lo siento pero eso no funciona asi,i think spock is looking at you.

    There can be high end feats, they just don't need to be THAT high end because they are FAR ABOVE regular showings and therefor highly inconsistent.

    If you can't get that that is what I've been saying for the last several post, then you're not going to...

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    #106  Edited By PowerWoman

    @drgnx: if wonder woman no high feats,how can prove she is stronger than spider man?

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    #107  Edited By gokuwarrior

    @drgnx:

    we are back to the same topic,inconcistencies have happended even with spider-man level characters,so i don't see the problem of having some planet busting feats here and there,characters like superman and wonder woman can have planet busting feats,even if they do it only one time in 10 years,it can be a consistent feat anyway,because it's not like they will destroy a planet and then the rest of the time they will be doing low showings like struggling to lift a car and something like that,they have had countless of feats that include moving islands,destroying asteroids bigger than cities with one hit,moving faster than light,fighting at super speed,taking the power of houndreds of nukes,lava,lightnings,cosmic beams,fighting near the sun,so they have enough high end feats to prove they are consistent about their capability of destroying a planet,you don't need them to do it every year to make it consistent,because they still have other high end feats in a lower scale than planet busting that they do very,very often with complete ease.

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    @drgnx: if wonder woman no high feats,how can prove she is stronger than spider man?

    Are you serious? You can't tell by their average showings? Or their more moderate feats?

    1. Wonder Woman regularly lifts 100 ton objects
    2. Spiderman regularly struggles with objects larger than cars

    Do you really need to compare Wonder Woman moving a planet to Spiderman struggling to hold up a building know she is stronger than him? Really?

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    @drgnx: New 52 wonder woman isnt prove she stronger than spider man,he have more feats

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    #110  Edited By gokuwarrior
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    @drgnx:

    we are back to the same topic,inconcistencies have happended even with spider-man level characters,so i don't see the problem of having some planet busting feats here and there,characters like superman and wonder woman can have planet busting feats,even if they do it only one time in 10 years,it can be a consistent feat anyway,because it's not like they will destroy a planet and then the rest of the time they will be doing low showings like struggling to lift a car and something like that,they have had countless of feats that include moving islands,destroying asteroids bigger than cities with one hit,moving faster than light,fighting at super speed,taking the power of houndreds of nukes,lava,lightnings,cosmic beams,fighting near the sun,so they have enough high end feats to prove they are consistent about their capability of destroying a planet,you don't need them to do it every year to make it consistent,because they still have other high end feats in a lower scale than planet busting that they do very,very often with complete ease.

    Until you have something new and logical to say, I'm not wasting any more time on your posts. It is very clear you can't support your opinion with any form of logic, and I'm not interested in changing your mind. I never initiated this conversation and deliberately ignore your posts for this very reason. The reason we are repeating is because you didn't say anything of any value...at all.

    For the final time, the main issue is with the MAGNITUDEof the inconsistency. If you could not ascertain that by the comparisons I made in my first post, where I clearly demonstrated the difference between Doomsday in the Video to Superman's big fights with others, where he is clearly going all out, then it is just going to have to remain over your head.

    Also,

    include moving islands,destroying asteroids bigger than cities with one hit,moving faster than light,fighting at super speed,taking the power of houndreds of nukes,lava,lightnings,cosmic beams,fighting near the sun

    None of this is consistent with destroying a planet, definitely not hundreds of nukes. At Best an object moving at the speed of light could bust a planet depending in size but that is not really a strength feat. And if these were so consistent with planet busting then why are you begging for the actual feat? Actually never mind, I don't want to hear anything else.

    Until you can justify someone being able to bust planets when they clearly don't regulatory show anything close to that level of power, you've failed to add anything to conversation you've butted into...

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    @drgnx: New 52 wonder woman isnt prove she stronger than spider man,he have more feats

    Didn't she lift an aircraft? Didn't she help lift a boat with Superman?

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    @drgnx: Superman help her,we even dont know superman how much stronger than her ,if superman do 99% she just do 1% that isnt great,we need see wonder woman solos feats,not together

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    @drgnx: Superman help her,we even dont know superman how much stronger than her ,if superman do 99% she just do 1% that isnt great,we need see wonder woman solos feats,not together

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    @drgnx: that it,but not enough

    new 52 wonder woman is most weak of verson

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    @drgnx:

    again,there are a lot of characters that can destroy planets and fight against each other,superman has planet level feats and he fights against doomsday,darksied and other aliens with similar capabilities,wonder woman could have that capability too,and her main opponents are always avatars and sky-father beings that can do planet busting level feats,so there are more than enough characters with similar capabilities to fight each other,so you can avoid inconsistencies,inconsistencies don't happen as long as the writters don't do stupid things like water down powerhouses for the sake of the plot,put characters with incompatible levels to fight each other,that's the only thing that actually produces inconsistencies,if writters avoid that,inconsistencies don't happen.

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    @drgnx: that it,but not enough

    new 52 wonder woman is most weak of verson

    Not enough for what? You think Spiderman has better feats than that? You said

    "New 52 wonder woman isnt prove she stronger than spider man,he have more feats"

    He might have more feats because there was a reboot for DC, but does Spiderman have a feat that actually beats that?

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    lol @ Wonder Woman not having better strength feats then Spider-Man.

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    @drgnx: spider man lift building

    building>plane

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    ben lift boat(that better than superman and wonder woman)

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    nam lift HUGE ship,that much better than wonder woman lift plane

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    even she-hulk is better than wonder woman

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    herc better than wonder woman

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    thor lift million of tons

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    hulk lift fifty billion tons

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    Gladiator lift HIUGE building

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    so,tell me,wonder woman not need high level feats????

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    @powerwoman: This is utterly laughable and pathetic. Are you really saying that you care more about Wonder Woman's feats than her characterisation? What motivates her, what she thinks, how she acts etc? This is something Azzarello delivers in spades in his title and that makes it all the better. Sure action and feats are nice but they need to be supported by a good story. As long as Azzarello's stories are good, that's all that matters.

    That can be quibbled with by anti Azzarello fans granted but if you seriously want feats over story telling, you really are a shallow Wonder Woman fan aren't you? Your logic has been debunked and shown up on here before so do yourself a favour and quit it. You're just showing yourself up.

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    You said

    @drgnx: New 52 wonder woman isnt prove she stronger than spider man,he have more feats

    You said SPIDERMANso that is the only one I'm going to respond to.

    Spiderman did NOTlift the WHOLE BUILDING he replaced ONE SUPPORT BEAM

    Next time read your own scan.

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    Superman help her,we even dont know superman how much stronger than her ,if superman do 99% she just do 1%

    Well guess what? We don't know how many beams there were and therefor we don't know how much weight spiderman did, maybe he did 1%!

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    @drgnx: spider man lift building

    building>plane

    DRGNX correction: 1 Support beam =/= building

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    so,tell me,wonder woman not need high level feats????

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    @kalel121: I'm just want to see wonder woman have really wonder feats,that my mistake?if love a powerful wonder woman is shallow fans,yes,i'm very happey became a shallow wonder woman fans

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    @drgnx: so?that better than wonder woman

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    even she can do this,wonder woman even not prove she was 100 tons level

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    @powerwoman:

    Can you prove it? Because Spidermanis holding beams UNDERWATER, the other unbroken beams would still give support as well as the water resistance. You have an issue with Superman helping Wonder Women lift a ship but not Spiderman holding 1 or 2 beams out of several UNDERWATER?

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    @drgnx: of course i can,superman lift earth weight,wonder woman isnt ,so superman could be do 99.9999999999% wonder woman just 0.00000000000000001%

    Spiderman is holding beams UNDERWATER,he solos this,much better than wonder woman

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    Fun fact: an aircraft carrier from WWII weighted in at roughly 20.000 tons, todays Nimitz-class carrieres clocks in at 100.000 tons. Now Diana and Superman had to catch one of those modern ships to stop it from landing on a city, plus it had a sizable wave following it. So yeah, Diana has lifted far more than a puny 100 tons.

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    @drgnx: of course i can,superman lift earth weight,wonder woman isnt ,so superman could be do 99.9999999999% wonder woman just 0.00000000000000001%

    Spiderman is holding beams UNDERWATER,he solos this,much better than wonder woman

    Yeah I can play too!

    Water can Support +500 ton ships: That building could easily weigh less than 500 tons (a 12 story building can weigh ~2000 tons so the building looking like it is 3 stories could be ~500 tons) So the other Support beams + Water resistance do 99.9999% of the work and Spiderman do .0001% of the work, Wonderwomen lifting a plane > Spiderman ...

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    @drgnx: no,Spiderman far stronger than wonder woman

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    @outside_85: so?wonder woman struggle lift a car,that isnt 100 tons

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    There is obviously something wrong with this feat as even Spiderman is Surprised he lifted it. If you're going to post out of context feats than clearly you've got nothing.

    The other feat proves nothing.

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    @drgnx: no,Spiderman far stronger than wonder woman

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    Whats up with the boat feat?

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    @gokuwarrior said:

    @outside_85:

    hera defeating the amazons is impressive?,please the amazons in arazzellos cmic don't even have feats to prove they are above the peak human level,it doesn't prove hera would beat superman,flash,manhunter,any of them would stomp her,what feats does she has to support the claim that she can beat them?,she has nothing,the gods in arazzello's book are nowhere near the level of the gods from the true geek mythology,stop beliaveing that because they are "gods" it means something,it means nothing if they don't have feats,diana isn't the most powerful member in the JL,she has no feats to prove that,superman,manhunter and flash have done much more impressive feats than her andx the gods she defeated combined,it's debatable if she could defeat green lantern let alone manhunter,superman and flash,she even said in her fight with supergirl that they are equals in strength,speed,so that makes supergirl more powerful than superman,flash,manhunter?,no she has no impressive feats either.

    JL wonder woman and arazzello wonder woman haven't done anything impressive yet.

    This post is just so full of denial and ignorance it's not worth a proper response.

    @outside_85: think about,if flash no any speed feats,superman no any strength feats,you like it?

    i'm not says wonder woman should be do some crazy feats again again,my point is we are waiting for years,wonder woman still no any wonder feats,i feel bad,wonder woman need have some cool feats,speed,skill,or something,not just strength,but just for now,she 0 feats,you like it?

    The problem is that she has feats, you just choose to ignore them for your own reasons.And yeah, I'd be perfectly fine if Supes and Flash hadn't jumped right back into the pool of vomit that is their exponentially grown powerscale. For me New 52 Superman was interesting in Morrisons early days Action Comics, because he wasnt all that powerful, Lobdell instantly killed any interest I had grown in the character when he added the retarded 'benching the world' scene.

    And if I have to be honest, I don't really care for the superpower arms-race there exists with in superhero comics, because one 'omg' feat will only lead to someone else trying to top it;

    First Diana could only fly in her plane, then she could glide on air currents, then she got faster and faster, and suddenly she ended up being as fast as the Flash. Superman could once just manage to lift a car, then a truck, then a locomotive, then a ship and on it went until we have him towing first the moon and later Earth after him... Do you see the problem here?

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    #135  Edited By Outside_85

    @outside_85: so?wonder woman struggle lift a car,that isnt 100 tons

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    I don't see her struggling in that, in fact she is lifting it from an angle where it's weight technically grows and in the first panel she is doing it with one hand.

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    @drgnx: she-hulk can do this,i dont see new 52 wonder woman can do it

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    he also can do too

    that much better than new 52 wonder woman

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    @outside_85: i'm like wonder woman storys,but just for now, she too weak,i';m just want to see wonder woman have better feats,that my mind,you can agree or not

    that my desire,i dont know why you try change my hope

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    I am very familiar with you're habit of post out of context scans, post the full sequence! All you need to do to take down a small building it to take out key beams, that does not compare to lifting a carrier! It also looks like explosives went off..

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    @drgnx: she-hulk can do this,i dont see new 52 wonder woman can do it

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    that much better than new 52 wonder woman

    Post the full sequence all I see is the building blowing up

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    @powerwoman said:

    @outside_85: i'm like wonder woman storys,but just for now, she too weak,i';m just want to see wonder woman have better feats,that my mind,you can agree or not

    that my desire,i dont know why you try change my hope

    Because I am very much against adding feats to stories and situations where they don't serve any purpose other than to awe the audience.Like Lobdell's Superman world lifting feat really served no purpose for the story save to introduce Superman's new doctor friend. The physical activity didn't come into play at all during H'El on Earth because H'El didnt bother with fist fighting most of the time and instead used the Fortress of Solitude to delay, distract and divert them all. When they finally did get to grips with him, H'El just deployed somekind of poorly explained sychic-whammo that planted most people on their rear (very similar to Harvest who's power was to take everything people could throw at them and moan about them being wrong about him and his teenage concentration camp)... and then finally he was brought down through the usual answer to any Kryptonian problem; Kryptonite. If anything the weight lifting display just highligted how useless Superman's otherwise massive strength is against most of his enemies.

    But if you think Azzarello's Wonder Woman is weak, thats your thing, I don't read her as weak in any way and the book is littered with examples of how powerful she is. What's different now in comparison to before Flashpoint is primarily that the book is written by a man who doesn't really let himself get boxed in by how comicbooks are normally written.

    I have drawn the comparison before and I will do so again. Azzarello's Olympians are not powerful in the Marvel Thor way, they are powerful in the Endless sort of way.

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    @drgnx: I'm tired of arguing Spider-Man and wonderwoman who stronger,my point is,there have too many charater was stronger than wonder woman,and i want to see wonder woman feats more powerful than pre-52 wonder woman,if superman can lift earth weight,wonder woman is superman power level,she should be have this power

    just for now,she isnt have enough wonder feats,yes,i'm like story,but i want to see wonder woman great feats

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    @outside_85: i like story and powerful wonder woman both,you just like story,but that isnt enough,wonder woman have super-power,she is superman power level,right?so if superman can lift earth weight,why wonder woman cannot?she is superman power level?

    unless DC keep up superman low level,like struggling lift ship,i would be no any complain,but the true is,dc make superman overpowered and that make wonder woman/JLA looks like Useless and redundant

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    @outside_85: i like story and powerful wonder woman both,you just like story,but that isnt enough,wonder woman have super-power,she is superman power level,right?so if superman can lift earth weight,why wonder woman cannot?she is superman power level?

    unless DC keep up superman low level,like struggling lift ship,i would be no any complain,but the true is,dc make superman overpowered and that make wonder woman/JLA looks like Useless and redundant

    See your problem is that you need to have it on paper in order to accept it. If DC says Wonder Woman is nearly as strong as Superman, then you shouldn't need to see her ape whatever he is doing the same way you don't need to see him ape anything she does.

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    @drgnx: That was Spider-Man with the Uni-Power. One issue later, he punched the Hulk out of orbit.

    Reading this thread is painful; more so than most threads where people whine about how Wonder Woman should be stronger.

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    #144  Edited By lilben42

    @powerwoman: so your saying they should make WW inconsistent because Superman is inconsistent...

    Anyway WW has some feats.

    • Handled 5 zombies with ease

    • Shoots a bullet at Hades from far away

    • Saves Zola from the monsters while battling Poseidon.

    • Beats Supergirl

    • Handles Superman and Hal

    • Tanks a hit from Apollo

    She has lots of feats, and is consistent for now. Sure they aren't high end but one thing is for sure WW would beat the crap out of Spiderman.

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    @lilben42: not really,supergirl is match wonder woman strength and speed,and for now supergirl is more powerful than before,she would be more powerful than wonder woman,unless wonder woman no bracelets

    of course,you can keep up low level,but superman has a feat,lift earth weight,that was too much for wonderwoman,they are isnt in the same level,at least wonder woman no any feats can match superman,i dont like it

    @outside_85: sure,but i want to see a really feat not just a panel

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    #146  Edited By lilben42

    @powerwoman said:

    @lilben42: not really,supergirl is match wonder woman strength and speed,and for now supergirl is more powerful than before,she would be more powerful than wonder woman,unless wonder woman no bracelets

    of course,you can keep up low level,but superman has a feat,lift earth weight,that was too much for wonderwoman,they are isnt in the same level,at least wonder woman no any feats can match superman,i dont like it

    @outside_85: sure,but i want to see a really feat not just a panel

    Bottom line is WW has a good story and a good writer. Who takes his time and builds up to big moments. While Superman has a eh writer who puts weird and random feats in a story just to show how powerful superman is. Do you really want that to happen with WW.

    Who would you rather want Azzerello or Lobdell

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    @lilben42: at least wonder woman needs some really feats,she even not more powerful than GA wonder woman...

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    @citizenbane: Thanks man!

    Yes this tread needs to be abandoned!

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    @outside_85:

    the problem is that her feats are not impressive for wonder woman standard,and sorry but wonder woman had huge feats since her early comics,in this same page you can see that the user "powerwoman" posted scans from original wonder woman(from the 40s)where she is lifting an island with one hand,and even moving the moon,she is showing super speed,being too fast for the human eyes to see,taking bombs,lightnings,etc,so no,wonder woman and superman always had huge power levels,the only thing that changed is they got other powers later like flight,and some of their powers decreased through the years instead of increasing,pre crisis superman was overpowered not current superrman,and golden age wonder woman from the 40s even moved the sun,so don't act like if they were just above human level in their first appearances,they always had crazy feats,some of them more overpowered than many of their current feats.

    i'm not asking for wonder woman to move the sun or something like that,i just want to see her again doing the normal feats from the powerhouses,smashing an asteroid bigger than a city with one hit,taking huge amount of damage,throwing hits at super speed,i want to see her do that in epic fights like she used to do,,and there can be very good explanations to have her doing those feats,ruka and perez were able to create great stories and create the perfect situations to make her do umpressive feats at the same time,her superhero side and epic fights are missing now,i'm not seeing the god like warrior wonder woman that i love,and i also want a proper development for her big villans and want to see them being trwated like powerhouses not like punching bag for street level characters like some writters used them in the past.

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    @kalel121: feats are important, new 52 wonder woman has been around for 1 and half year and she has not done anything impressive, the story is important, but so are the feats, and since arazzello is going to be runing around the drama of the gods for a while, at least give us some good action, some impresive feats That Make look like wonder woman wonder woman, With perez and ruka we had both, great story arcs and great feats, a good comic must have Both things.

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