Talia is a Batman supporting character, Diana is not a part of Superman's mythology.

@darkman61288:

How is that relevant at all? I don't understand the point you're trying to make. Are you saying it'd be fine if it were Steve Trevor's baby?

@sog7dc: "she" is a character without agency, usually written by men who impart her a personality and she's sometimes "used" as an accessory in male centric stories such as sm/ww, Injustice and dozens of other comic books. She's "useful" as a motivation for a male hero, as a trophy girlfriend, useful as a child-bearer but useless as a freestanding hero within those stories.

Which you have nho proof of that being true. On top of that in injustice it is elseworld and if you played the game, you'll see the main universe wonder woman put that one in her place for letting a man change her morals and reduced herself to his faithful pet.

So, Wonder Woman had her little girl-power psa-like moment in the game, how does that prove me wrong? Instead of having Wonder Woman pay a lip-service to feminism they should work on portraying her as a character that women can look up to

That's what you missed from the story in the game the books lead up to. The "real" Diana had to defeat that worlds version and pretty easily while lecturing her on the path she strayed from because she fell for an evil superman. She isn't an item in the main world and has a fine relationship with superman with hints of it growing. She has been in no way recently made as a trophy in any story to drive any male character other than.....Azz books....Hades comes to mind, oh and firstborn, oh and Orion......and.....see where I am getting at here?

In the comic book her role was help push Superman past the point of madness and once that goal was achieved, Tom Tayler plunged her in a coma she hasn't woken up from. I will plead the fifth on sm/ww because you know how I feel about that heinous relationship. No one in her eponymous book claimed Wonder Woman as a trophy, Hades was her mentor, she spurned the First Born and the beautifully dysfunctional relationship brewing between her and Orion was dashed because someone else claimed Wonder Woman

How you can say in one sentence that SM/WW relationship is heinous and then turn around and refer to her relationship with a misogynistic ass as "beautifully dysfunctional" is beyond me. While Azzarello wrote the interplay between Diana and Orion in a very humorous way, her accepting a relationship with Orion would have been the monstrosity you claim SM/WW is.

Because I understood Orion is not a "misogynistic ass" but a troubled man that hides his insecurities behind a blustery, macho, overbearingly confident front so, in other words, he overcompensates. Buried beneath all this bravado there's a good man and a good reliable friend that Wonder Woman met in New Genesis. She would've peeled those layers and that would've been a pretty good story in my opinion.

<<This is never okay.

I'm speechless.

Yes because he is her supporting character. You made the comparison with Damien but it is different because it doesn't cross mythologies.

@csg_cl: I wouldn't go as far as to label Orion a misogynist based on the way he treated Wonder Woman and the way he conducts himself around women in general. When he slapped her bum I went ballistic and so did Wonder Woman but the subsequent events changed the way I feel about Orion, and the way she feels about him. SM/WW is an entirely different matter because I don't dislike Superman or the way Superman treats Wonder Woman, I dislike Soule and Daniel's portrayal of Wonder Woman.

so it's okay for a guy to treat her like a piece of meat as long as he "means well", but it's not okay for a truly heroic man to be concerned for her even when he treats her with absolute respect at all times? There are so many problems with that mentality.

I just explicitly told you I don't hate sm/ww because of Superman or the way he treats Wonder Woman but because I object to Soule and Daniel's treatment of Wonder Woman in it, you know the things I've been complaining about for the last 10 or 11 months...

it amounts to the exact same thing ... Soule/Daniels have been the definitive team on SM/WW ... if you hate the treatment you in effect hate the relationship. I find it amazing that you of all people like Orion!

@foamborn Orion/WW is worst than SM/WW.

of course you resort to name calling when you don't have a good argument for something ... but perhaps you should do some homework before you start attempting to hurl insults ... many chimps are basically as intelligent as a human (present company excluded of course) next time call someone as intelligent as a turkey, generally believed to be amongst the worlds least intelligent creatures, I'm sure you can relate.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/17/science/17chimp.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

As to your sad argument ... you continue to claim it's "the portrayal of WW" you dislike, but in the same thread you sit around and claim you would like a portrayal of her dating a man such as Orion. How could you possibly think a portrayal of Diana dating a man who has no respect for women would be a good portrayal?

@csg_cl: Hello. If a user insults you, please flag them, and you can address them but please avoid insulting them back, even if its a relatively more passive insult (giving an example of what is considered an unintelligent animal and asserting that another user can relate) The other user I will address in private message. Let me know if you have any questions via PM. Thank you.

That's called Biased. And if this doesn't give you hope then nothing will... http://www.newsarama.com/22457-new-artist-brings-new-approach-to-dc-s-superman-wonder-woman.html

I am cautiously optimistic about the new creative team Mightus, I was hopeless about the previous one. Losing Soule filled me with hope and Tomasi's interviews are quite reassuring so we'll see

Im very excited too because in truth she wasn't represented enough for a shared book and it looks like the scales are gonna tip on her side this time around.

Hmmm no I think that might be to obvious of a conclusion, chances are they won't reveal who Wonderstar actually is just to keep people guessing.