Is wonder woman currently stronger than superman?

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#51 Edited by marvel123 (397 posts) - - Show Bio

haha it would be cool to see her in a battle with hercules, i think she could take him....

and superman is my favorite dc hero, yet i don't mind seeing superman upstaged/ or weaker than WW (i know some people don't like that at all). but for me, i don't think i would loose respect for superman if his strength levels, speed, ect was inferior to wonder woman's.

some people loose respect for the hulk, just because he looses to thor or (vice versa) or any other character in those positions? driving question: do our favorite Heroes have to be the best of the best (the smartest, strongest, fastest) ? i'm just exploring the mentality that some comic book fans display (not u guys in particular)

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#52 Edited by Goddessa (208 posts) - - Show Bio

@marvel123 said:

haha it would be cool to see her in a battle with hercules
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#53 Posted by marvel123 (397 posts) - - Show Bio

cool thanks haha i guess now the're like brother n sister, who knows, maybe we may have more sibling rivalry b/t them

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#54 Posted by Goddessa (208 posts) - - Show Bio

@marvel123 said:

cool thanks haha i guess now the're like brother n sister, who knows, maybe we may have more sibling rivalry b/t them

No worries :)

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#55 Edited by sammandcfan (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@press_oblivion: The Greek gods in the DCU are not nearly as powerful as the Presence in the DCU, who is the Judeo-Christian God and creator of the entire universe. So those Greek gods are more or less like OP superpowered characters, but not completely invincible. I would actually say that Wonder Woman is more powerful than some of the Greek gods. As for her pure physical strength compared to Superman's, she should be equal to him until she takes off her bracelets. Superman is then screwed unless he takes a nice sun bath. The reason people think Wonder Woman is weaker is because Superman is shown moving planets while Wonder Woman is not usually shown doing something on that big of a scale. Superman is the guy who saves the day, while Wonder Woman is the gal who ruins the bad guy's day. As for who wins in a fight, it is 50-50 unless Diana has her handy magic tools that pwn Supes, who is completely vulnerable to magic and enchanted weapons (lasso, magic sword, tiara) or unless Supes supes up with the powa of the sunnyD. If both occur, they are once again 50-50 until Diana takes her bracelets off. She is probably the worst matchup for Supes in the JL because of her many enchanted weapons and blessings.The Spectre is probably just as cool as Batman, BTW.

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#56 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@sammandcfan: Only Pre-crisis superman is moving-planets,not pre-52,i'm have to say in the pre-crisis,superman is far far stronger than wonder woman,only supergirl is equal superman in strength

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#57 Posted by Squalleon (9731 posts) - - Show Bio

No feats to prove it.
And Geoff WW differs from Azzarello's.
Geoff's WW doesn't gain a advantage by removing her wrists
and her wrists become swords doesn't just summon them
as seen in a preview of JL 22

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#58 Edited by sammandcfan (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: Yeah you're right. Didn't Superman destroy a solar system by sneezing in his pre-crisis version? I think for WW vs Supes in post-crisis, pre-52 the matchup is WW wins 60 percent of the time considering all scenarios. New 52 WW from what I saw from her so far would win 75 percent of the time. She is just flat out a bad matchup for Supes.

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#59 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@sammandcfan: though in the silver age only supergirl can match superman

untill post-crisis,wonder woman can match superman

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#60 Edited by GWHH (796 posts) - - Show Bio

JLA--A League Of One-2000

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#61 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@gwhh: .. Never has a female hero can stronger than Superman,only in the Pre-crisis has two female hero is as strong as superman,one is Silver age supergirl,and then Pre-crisis mary marvel

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#62 Posted by TAneT62 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@gwhh said:

JLA--A League Of One-2000

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I've always found this completely ridiculous. It's untrue, inconsistent, and there is proof that what she says isn't true.

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#63 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@tanet62: WW is weaker than superman.. Any version,pre-crisis is weaker than superman,pre-52 wonder woman is weaker than superman..

actual in the golden age,mary marvel is most powerful female hero,in the silver age/bronze age,supergirl is most powerful female hero

wonder woman is most powerful female hero is just Since the post crisis began

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#64 Edited by TAneT62 (1099 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: I know she is weaker, but by very little.

I was referring to the scan, not a past explanation.

I think that scan makes her look weak, vulnerable, etc.

It just seems wrong, why? Because she has proven she can beat Superman in battle, if she needs to.

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#65 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@tanet62: She is a little bit weaker than superman,this is pre-52 wonder woman,not pre-crisis,in the pre-crisis,superman is too much stronger than wonder woman,i'm wonder woman fans,but that it's true,DC Changed her, Since the beginning of the post-crisis,not pre-crisis

however,i agree it,superman no hold back fight wonder woman,she but we never see bloodthirsty wonder woman fight superman

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#66 Posted by matchesmalone21 (10547 posts) - - Show Bio

No feats to prove it.

And Geoff WW differs from Azzarello's.

Geoff's WW doesn't gain a advantage by removing her wrists

and her wrists become swords doesn't just summon them

as seen in a preview of JL 22

Actually Geoff and Azzarello's Wonder Woman only differ in personality,the bracelets doesn't turn into anything as you can see in Justice League 3,while fighting Parademons with swords you still can see the bracelets and she never removed it Jl ongoing. Geoff Johns just doesn't let her demonstate the full abilities.

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#67 Edited by drgnx (3660 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21:

I think Wonder Women's Azz run is in the past, she might not even have the power in JL anymore, we don't know what the fallout will be when she fights the First Born!

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#68 Posted by matchesmalone21 (10547 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx: Azzarelo's run isn't in the past anymore,because in Superman 20 she still is with Orion.

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#69 Posted by CheeseSticks (2867 posts) - - Show Bio

Since Wonder Woman has better fighting skills and more experience, Wonder Woman should easily beat both Superman and Goku.

LMAO get out of here

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#70 Posted by drgnx (3660 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx: Azzarelo's run isn't in the past anymore,because in Superman 20 she still is with Orion.

Ah

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#71 Edited by z3ro180 (8621 posts) - - Show Bio

@marvel123: To answer your question no she is not stronger than him but she can kick his ass.

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#72 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21:But,It really is no continuity,Especially ,No any contact with JLA

@z3ro180: At least wonder woman very close to superman in strength,but no feats can prove it,that too bad

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#73 Posted by matchesmalone21 (10547 posts) - - Show Bio

@powerwoman: Even without this contact, her official powerset is from the main title.

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#74 Posted by PowerWoman (3639 posts) - - Show Bio

@matchesmalone21: Ok.... In fact, I do not like to have a little bit New 52 wonder woman comic art style. . Too Greece

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#75 Edited by 007007007 (58 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say wonder woman is just as strong as superman or even stronger. She already kicked his ass in battle once in Justice League, Paradise Lost. They saw each other as monsters and she destroyed him.

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#76 Edited by MysticMedivh (27271 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

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#77 Posted by ThanoswithIG (93 posts) - - Show Bio

She got her sexy ass kicked by Doomsday

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#78 Posted by Saint_Sophie (7062 posts) - - Show Bio

No.

Yeah this.

I'd say wonder woman is just as strong as superman or even stronger. She already kicked his ass in battle once in Justice League, Paradise Lost. They saw each other as monsters and she destroyed him.

Except that's non canon. So it doesn't really count. Also, they were neck and neck at first, but the reason why Diana was "thrashing" Clark was because Clark saw through the illusion and tried to calm down Diana but all Diana heard was gibberish. He had to point to the mirror and Diana saw her real self fighting Clark.

Besides, a morals off Clark could've killed the being that left Diana for dead.

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#79 Posted by agent41 (8796 posts) - - Show Bio

She got her sexy ass kicked by Doomsday

Time has passed since Doomsday defeated a New 52 WW that wasn't at full power. She at least held her own in her recent fight with Superman.

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#80 Posted by agent41 (8796 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_sophie: What being left WW for dead?. I hope you are not talking about cartoon because comics are what really count. WW has a good trackrecord holding her own againast Superman. I don't think that will ever change.

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#81 Posted by Saint_Sophie (7062 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41 said:

@saint_sophie: What being left WW for dead?. I hope you are not talking about cartoon because comics are what really count. WW has a good trackrecord holding her own againast Superman. I don't think that will ever change.

I'm well aware of that. Did you even read my entire post? You know what, let me just break it down for you.

First off, I said that that stuff was non canon. The user mentioned stuff from the cartoon. He mentioned that Diana was whooping Clark's ass during their fight when they thought that they were monsters. I said that while they were just going back and fourth, Diana was only whooping Clark because he didn't want to fight her. Still, it's non canon so I'm gonna disregard that.

I just mentioned that last bit because even in the cartoon, they showed that Clark > Diana. But she can still hurt him.

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#82 Posted by darkman61288 (969 posts) - - Show Bio

Now She is. Thank you Convergence.

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#84 Posted by Outside_85 (15503 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkman61288: What happened?

Read the front page of CV :) Superman is loosing his powers.

Now since he 'taught' her how to be human, maybe she can teach him how to be a superhuman? :)

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#86 Posted by darkman61288 (969 posts) - - Show Bio
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@darkman61288: What happened?

Read the front page of CV :) Superman is loosing his powers.

Now since he 'taught' her how to be human, maybe she can teach him how to be a superhuman? :)

I would not be shocked if they did that. I can imagine Diana saying " Clark you have to suppress that desire to be human."

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#87 Posted by Outside_85 (15503 posts) - - Show Bio
@outside_85 said:
@somayareece said:

@darkman61288: What happened?

Read the front page of CV :) Superman is loosing his powers.

Now since he 'taught' her how to be human, maybe she can teach him how to be a superhuman? :)

I would not be shocked if they did that. I can imagine Diana saying " Clark you have to suppress that desire to be human."

Actually I hope someone at DC is going to be brave enough to have Clark dive for cover behind Diana in the event of someone trying to shoot him. :)

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#88 Posted by darkman61288 (969 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkman61288 said:
@outside_85 said:
@somayareece said:

@darkman61288: What happened?

Read the front page of CV :) Superman is loosing his powers.

Now since he 'taught' her how to be human, maybe she can teach him how to be a superhuman? :)

I would not be shocked if they did that. I can imagine Diana saying " Clark you have to suppress that desire to be human."

Actually I hope someone at DC is going to be brave enough to have Clark dive for cover behind Diana in the event of someone trying to shoot him. :)

HaHaHa I can see it now Clark saying " Diana, babe, save me."

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