@vegetassgss said:

You're right,and I dont think they ever will again. From what I've seen she was originally WW twin sister made from black clay but after that she just became another amazon that WW didn't even recognize, to being thrown to a different earth# (23). Thus removing her as never being related to WW so,she wouldn't have an outright counter besides Genocide that could actually beat her in a fight IIRC.

How the heck do you believe in this statement? This MIGHT be semi-true if we're talking about one individual skill, but we're talking about many dozens of skills that can be intertwined in different ways. The reason thousands of years of training makes a difference is that all of these skills can be mastered and become a matter of muscle memory and developed into new skills through strategic use. You don't actually have to be the best at something to win, if you are smarter at combining multiple skills you can defeat someone much better than you.

Not to mention that there comes a point to where you've reached a certain point of expertise and the only way to improve is to teach. It's not like Diana hasn't had thousands of years to do that with who knows how many different students to learn new ways to hone her skills, adapt what she knows different ways to different fighters? These will teach her new ways to look at different strategies and tactics, and incorporating all of THOSE into her overall personal combat system.

No I've said it before, I'll say it again. Wonder Woman is THE hand to hand/melee fighter in the DCU.

I love how people are going "if Batman had her powers" or "If Wonder Woman didn't have powers," like it makes any real difference.

If its and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a merry Christmas. The only people I could see challenging Wonder Woman are Big Barda and Karate Kid. I'd personally wager Karate Kid can take Wonder Woman 6 out of 10 times.

Wonder Woman is awesome, but skillwise she's nowhere near Cassandra Cain, Lady Shiva, Robert Dragon, or Bronze Tiger and all four of them can take Batman in a tussle. Batman's awesome because he's got the utility edge to make up for it, imho. What's scary about Cassie is she's young enough to keep growing.

All that is is side moving not really forward moving. All it does is make her own style. While not exactly the same thing it's similar the bad argument of Batman mastering a 100somthing martial arts. There is still a ceiling of capability limitations they will always hit. This isn't dragon ball where you keep training you get better.

Further more even if that was true she's nor going to retain everything over the years.

I agree but Superman would beat Diana

/bait

I wish people would stop referencing Marton like half the stuff he came up with hasn't been gone for a long time. Nothings to say she retains everything but wishful thinking. Furthermore most WWs isn't even that old to begin with. For universe's sake I knew I shouldn't have answered this thread question in a WW forum.

@dernman: We, mere mortals, hit a ceiling before our physical and mental capabilities start to slowly but surely decline around the age of 30. F.ex Sharapova is decidedly not a natural volleyer and will probably end her career without honing that skill but if she practiced it for 5000 years I reckon she'd master it, eventually. In fact I'm a lot less inclined to believe it's possible to master a hundred martial arts, no matter how long you live, the human brain probably can't retain/juggle that much knowledge, she'd wind up a jane of all trades and master of none

Batman and deathstroke are the best fighters IMO.WW weapons contribute greatly to her fights aswell

When written by a pro-Superman writer sure, anyone with a degree of common sense; no. :)

kewl

Geoff Johns's statement is official... she is the best fighter by statement, we can't deny that, but in universe they should make a story to make it canon...

@phoenixdiamond616: They say all that but don't actually show it lol. There is no proof. There are no scans. There are no feats. DC logic.

@truethemyscira: not only DC does that, all series/editorials do the same... and the proof is Geoff's word... but we actually need feats...

@phoenixdiamond616: In this case, words don't mean much when we got no feats...