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    Character » U.S.Agent appears in 964 issues.

    John Walker had his strength enhanced in hopes of being a hero for his country like his fallen brother. After a tenure upholding the mantle of Captain America, Walker re-established himself as U.S.Agent where he went on to have extensive service as a member of, and even leader to, the Avengers.

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    #1  Edited By whacknasty

    So if the process that made Caps shield was pretty much an accident, how did they make a comparable one for U.S. Agent?  Or is Cap's shield the superior of the two...?

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    #2  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @whacknasty said:
    " So if the process that made Caps shield was pretty much an accident, how did they make a comparable one for U.S. Agent?  Or is Cap's shield the superior of the two...? "
    Neither shield is superior.Both shields have been broken or damaged.
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    #3  Edited By whacknasty

    Oh Wow... didnt know that!  I remember seeing a scan of Cap taking a blow from Hulk with his shield and wlaking away pretty much unharmed, so i figured if U.S. Agent's shield wasn't made the same way, it would have to be weaker...

    So Agents shield is straight Vibranium, while Cap's shield is a mysterious mix of Vibranium and some other materials/elements, correct?

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    #4  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @whacknasty said:
    " Oh Wow... didnt know that!  I remember seeing a scan of Cap taking a blow from Hulk with his shield and wlaking away pretty much unharmed, so i figured if U.S. Agent's shield wasn't made the same way, it would have to be weaker...So Agents shield is straight Vibranium, while Cap's shield is a mysterious mix of Vibranium and some other materials/elements, correct? "
    I thought both shields were composed of Vibranium\Adamantium.Like a hybird.
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    #5  Edited By PrinceIMC

    Cap's shield is superior. It was made by accident and the attempts to recreate it ended up creating adamantium. I think USAgents is just adamantium and vibranium.

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    #6  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @PrinceIMC said:
    " Cap's shield is superior. It was made by accident and the attempts to recreate it ended up creating adamantium. I think USAgents is just adamantium and vibranium. "
    How can Cap's shield be superior? You just said U.S Agent's shield is JUST adamantium and Vibranium as if those aren't Marvel's hardest metals.Cap's shield hasn't done anything U.S Agent's couldn't.
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    #7  Edited By whacknasty

    I thought Vibranium's main thing is to just redirect/sap kinetic energy...?

    Like a bullet wouldn't pierce Black Panther's Vibranium armor, but someone could still cut him if it was along the weave of the armor (or something like that...)? 

    Would that be the same as being a "hard" metal like adamantium?

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    #8  Edited By PrinceIMC
    @Vance Astro: Cap's shield is unique, it is stronger than even adamantium and vibranium but since adamantium is nearly indestructible so of course an adamantium shield will appear as indestructible as Cap's.

    From Avengers Annual 2001in e-mail correspondence between Duane Freeman and Edwin Jarvis:

    Duane: 'My files show several references to Captain America's shield being an allow of adamantium and vibranium - but I also have data indicating that adamantium wasn't invented until long after the shield was created. How can this be?"

    Jarvis' response: 'Ah. Much more straight-forward. No -- there's no adamantium in Captain America's shield, though the confusion is understandable. The shield was created by Dr. Myron Maclain, while attempting to create super-strong metals for the U.S. Army.'

    'He was attempting to bond a sample of Wakandan vibranium to a new steel alloy, without success --- until one night, he dozed off in his lab, and awoke to find that the metals had bonded, though he did not know why. He cast the resultant metal into a disk shape for testing -- and that disk is what became Captain America's shield.'

    'Maclain was unable to duplicate the process however -- and has to this day been unable to discover just what is was that bonded the steel and the vibranium. He tried for decades to re-create his miracle metal but the closest he was able to come was his far later creation, adamantium. It's an impressive achievement, to be sure -- a metal almost completely impervious to damage -- even at the hands of the mighty Thor. So it's understandable that people occasionally confuse Dr. Maclain's two great discoveries. But it's no more than that -- the shield pre-dates adamantium by decades."
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    #9  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @whacknasty said:
    " I thought Vibranium's main thing is to just redirect/sap kinetic energy...?Like a bullet wouldn't pierce Black Panther's Vibranium armor, but someone could still cut him if it was along the weave of the armor (or something like that...)? Would that be the same as being a "hard" metal like adamantium? "
    Black Panther's suit isn't solid Vibranium or he wouldn't be able to bend.You can tear Black Panther's suit but not Vibranium.
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    #10  Edited By slimj87d

    Is this topic settled yet? Because there was an issue of Might Avengers where a super villian punches Agent's shield and punches it a second time and shatters it declaring something like "I knew the shield was a phony, not like the real one."

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    #11  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @SlimJ87D said:
    " Is this topic settled yet? Because there was an issue of Might Avengers where a super villian punches Agent's shield and punches it a second time and shatters it declaring something like "I knew the shield was a phony, not like the real one." "
    The shield he has in Mighty isn't the shield he has always had.He has had a shield similar to Cap's and a solid adamantium one.
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    #12  Edited By Andferne

    Didn't U S Agent also use and energy type one at some point? When he was in Force Works or something like that.

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    #13  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Andferne said:
    " Didn't U S Agent also use and energy type one at some point? When he was in Force Works or something like that. "
    Yea.
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    #14  Edited By Andferne
    @Vance Astro:  Was that the same type as Cap used briefly or were those two different types?
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    #15  Edited By geraldthesloth
    @Andferne said:
    " Didn't U S Agent also use and energy type one at some point? When he was in Force Works or something like that. "
    Different kind..let me find a picture...I don't really have one but I remember he had one in Maximum Control when he pounded on Ronan.
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    #16  Edited By PrinceIMC

    I'm thinking that since Bucky is keeping Cap's shield Steve should go back to the energy shield he had that was like USAgent's that he used back early in Avengers vol 3.

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