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    Character » Toxin appears in 96 issues.

    Toxin is the symbiote spawn of the vicious symbiote, Carnage, and grandson of Venom.

    Dead...?

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    #1  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    Venom #13:

    "That Toxin symbiote was a real get, baby"

    "Yes. Well worth the killing it took to acquire."

    Does Blackheart mean they battled and killed Patrick Mulligan to obtain the Toxin symbiote? In issue 12 we saw the Toxin symbiote being contained, but that was a facility seemingly under the control of Blackheart, anyway.

    So, what does everyone think? Did Pat meet his demise off panel?

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    #2  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

    =::(

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    #3  Edited By _Zombie_

    I really hope not. I liked him as Toxin.

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    #4  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    @ZombieBigfoot: @spiderbat87: Agreed and agreed.

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    #5  Edited By Avenging-X-Bolt

    .......toxin fought blackheart........? I want Toxin back........he was my second favorite symbiote

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    #6  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    @Avenging-X-Bolt: No, it was never specifically stated that Blackheart was the one to obtain the symbiote. The way he said it (it, being the dialogue in the OP) was very vague.

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    #7  Edited By InnerVenom123

    At this point, I would say that either Pat gave the symbiote up (he never wanted the thing in the first place) and Blackheart acquired it somewhere else, or Blackheart killed Pat.

    We'll just have to see.

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    #8  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous
    @Avenging-X-Bolt said:
    .......toxin fought blackheart........? I want Toxin back........he was my second favorite symbiote
    he was my first :O
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    #9  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    Nice to see some love for Toxin.

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    #10  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

    I hope he's still alive

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    #11  Edited By GrandSymbiote94
    @InnerVenom123 said:

    At this point, I would say that either Pat gave the symbiote up (he never wanted the thing in the first place) and Blackheart acquired it somewhere else, or Blackheart killed Pat.

    We'll just have to see.

    This.
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    #12  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @k4tzm4n said:

    Nice to see some love for Toxin.

    No one ever knows what they had until it's gone. =P

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    #13  Edited By DameonLG

    Patrick was never shown, Toxin was captured by some private company that Venom and Jack O'Lantern broke into for Crime Master.

    Most likely they sold it to Blackheart and 'the killing' referred to all the security they murdered to get it.

    Is Toxin still alive or was it actually 'killed' to sacrifice? I can't be sure, but I believe they just needed some 'flesh' for the ceremony, not the whole thing. Plus Blackheart had Symbiote clones, so it would make sense he had Toxin stored somewhere to continue to clone samples of since it's arguably one of the more powerful Symbiotes.

    I personally don't think we'll see Pat again, though.

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    #14  Edited By TDK_1997

    I like Toxin,so I hope not.

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    #15  Edited By Strider1992

    @InnerVenom123 said:

    @k4tzm4n said:

    Nice to see some love for Toxin.

    No one ever knows what they had until it's gone. =P

    Toxin is reappearing in Carnage USA (comes out March 1st) it shows him on the team that is going to be sent to help the Avengers along with Venom, Anti-Venom, Scorn and Hybrid.

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    #16  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @Strider92 said:

    @InnerVenom123 said:

    @k4tzm4n said:

    Nice to see some love for Toxin.

    No one ever knows what they had until it's gone. =P

    Toxin is reappearing in Carnage USA (comes out March 1st) it shows him on the team that is going to be sent to help the Avengers along with Venom, Anti-Venom, Scorn and Hybrid.

    Can I have a pic of this?

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    #17  Edited By Strider1992
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    @InnerVenom123: sure

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    #18  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @Strider92: Sorry dude, that's outdated info. Toxin's symbiote is shown in the current Venom story, which takes place before Carnage USA.

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    #19  Edited By kingjoeg

    @Strider92: Does that say Project Mulligan?

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    #20  Edited By Strider1992

    @InnerVenom123: ah i haven't been following the latest Venom series (I don't like Flash as Venom) I just saw the next Carnage USA hadn't been released yet and assumed it was his most recent appearance, my bad.

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    #21  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @kingjoeg said:

    @Strider92: Does that say Project Mulligan?

    It says Patrick Mulligan.

    @Strider92 said:

    @InnerVenom123: ah i haven't been following the latest Venom series (I don't like Flash as Venom) I just saw the next Carnage USA hadn't been released yet and assumed it was his most recent appearance, my bad.

    ... Why don't you like Flash as Venom?

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    #22  Edited By Strider1992

    @InnerVenom123: Well its not that I don't like Flash its that I don't like his version of Venom. I prefer the Classic pointy toothed guy with the long tongue who refers to himself as "us" and Venom wearing armor and using guns just seems wrong to me but it's a matter of taste I guess.

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    #23  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @Strider92: He doesn't start out with the we thing, but he does get it down the line. And he does transform into classic Venom when he loses control. Have you read any of the series?

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    #24  Edited By Strider1992

    @InnerVenom123: I read the origin part and I read the one where he almost got owned by Kraven so not a great deal (as I said, I have trouble looking looking at the "commando Venom" without cringing lol) . If you know of a good issue let me know and i'll give him another shot.

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    #25  Edited By Video_Martian

    @spiderbat87 said:

    I hope he's still alive
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    #26  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @Strider92: I guess given what you like, the best issue for you would be number 9.

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    @Strider92: You should DEFINITELY give it another shot. It's pretty good.

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    NO! I own the entire toxin mini-series. I own the entire venom/carnage series that he debuted in, I hope he's not dead, I havn't got to read any of the new venom series.

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    #30  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    @InnerVenom123: ME GUSTA!

    But, it seems like Pat is still dead, I suppose.

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    #31  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @k4tzm4n: Guess what I found on Venom #14's letter page?!

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    #32  Edited By greenlucario

    If Remender had Pat killed or had Pat give up the symbiote I'm done with Venom (even if it's one of my favorite books). Pat was such a great host and by the end of the Toxin mini it seemed like he finally accepted the symbiote and made piece with it. Better not be dead or gone.

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    @InnerVenom123 said:

    @k4tzm4n: Guess what I found on Venom #14's letter page?!

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    LMAO

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    #34  Edited By The_Martian

    Toxin hasn't really done anything sense his mini-series. I'm surprised that Marvel even acknowledges he exists still.

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    #35  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    @InnerVenom123 said:

    @k4tzm4n: Guess what I found on Venom #14's letter page?!

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    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    They spelled my name wrong :(

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    #36  Edited By VENOMCATEXE

    Going by the issue itself, and everything covered here I'm going with that he's not deceased (does this matter in comics?) and just in character limbo until it's stated in full (likely in a Handbook update). It seems the direction, and logical one, that the writer is going is to fully secure Flash Thompson in the mantle of Venom in every necessary way, being for one by having Brock challenge him of course, and establishing that Brock has what it takes to do so, whereas Flash will win and prove himself worthy of the title, as opposed to where many readers have seen him for a longtime as being second fiddle to Brock, and incapable of taking Brock (on a side note, I noticed this notion and thought to myself that despite the claim that Flash stood no chance against Brock lately, that the symbiote itself compensates for this by having the same wealth of experience, as well as inside knowledge of Brocks thoughts? I think it's just nostalgic fanboyism despite the claim it isn't, and the inability to move foreward from the 80's, dually noting that the news article here focused on the Venom series as if it were Eddie's book and story and Flash was the guest antagonist? Just putting that out here). Likewise I agree with the idea that Brock will become the new Toxin, or at the least remain just Brock to remove him from the mantle either way and secure it for Flash, as his standing as even Anti-Venom still denoted the Flash/Venom character as the second rate version in most peoples eyes. Pat/Toxin unfortunately is in a league of many, many "new" Marvel characters, as well as symbiotes that did receive his own character development and TLC, but that effort was dropped in favor of making him into a plot device used for nostalgic revival support. At least the Flash/Venom and his books cast represent some sort of active change (in a way) as opposed to stasis, it's refreshing to see.

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    #37  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @k4tzm4n: I can make you feel better. Lookit this. Venom #21.

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    #38  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    @InnerVenom123: Ah, a full reveal of the Savage Six! That's a rather...massive...Toxin, haha. Who's the dude with the M?

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    #39  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @k4tzm4n: Oh, you're gonna like Venom # 17.

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    #40  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
    @InnerVenom123: I'm excited to check it out.  Unfortunately, not sure when I'll be heading into the city.
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    #41  Edited By blackadamFTW

    I'm not even a big Marvel fan, and I would be sad if Patrick is dead.

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    #42  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @k4tzm4n: If all hope seems lost, use Comixology.

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    #44  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
    @InnerVenom123: That option has always been tempting, but I'm a collector and I no longer have a smart phone :(
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    #45  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @venomoushatred1001: Put a spoiler on that, dude. Still a bit early to post that freely in the forums.

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    #46  Edited By DEGRAAF

    @venomoushatred1001 said:

    Eddie Brock is now the new Toxin!
    Eddie Brock is now the new Toxin!

    your kidding right? Where is this from?

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    @InnerVenom123 said:

    @venomoushatred1001: Put a spoiler on that, dude. Still a bit early to post that freely in the forums.

    My bad. Fixed.

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    #48  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
    @DEGRAAF: HAY! HAY! I CAN SEE IT! 
    WAHHHHH!
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    #49  Edited By InnerVenom123

    @DEGRAAF: Venom 17. Also it's awesome.

    @k4tzm4n said:

    @DEGRAAF: HAY! HAY! I CAN SEE IT! WAHHHHH!

    Aw. I wanted you to be surprised. :P

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    @InnerVenom123: The thing I don't get is why Toxin doesn't talk in blue speech bubbles.

    @k4tzm4n: My bad, K4tz :(

    @DEGRAAF: Venom #17

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