@cattlebattle said:
@Durakken said:
Sorry, that character on Young Justice not Tim Drake. It neither looks like him nor acts like him so it is not him. Also he's not really on the show so much as he made a cameo just to say he was there.
well, Tim Drake hasn't really had a centric episode as of yet, so while I agree he has just made cameos basically thus far...I don't think its really fair to judge his character portrayal yet
@Durakken said:
While I do like the show I don't like that they called it Young Justice. It has been just about anything but Young Justice. It was Teen Titans and now its more Outsiders. It's irritating that they use everything about Tim Drake, but refuse to call him that, and then when he does make an appearance they make him so radically different it's him in name only, just like it is Dick Grayson in name only.
Thats just it, the show is just called Young Justice as obviously Teen Titans was already a show....they take storylines from both Young justice comics and teen Titans and amalgamate with their own, original stories...so bottom line...Its "Young Justice" in title only. Dick Grayson has had a bunch of different portrayals in the comics dependent on the writer, this version of him is basically a modern retelling of the character, people always seem to be upset that Dick is a computer whiz being that was notoriously Tims schtick. It makes complete sense, regardless of the character, that Batmans sidekick would be knowledgeable of computers especially in a modern setting where they are everywhere.
Not really. Being comfortable with computers and being a "whiz" at them is completely different. While Dick should and does know a bit about computers, he is the athletic type who gets lost in the adventure while out and about. This is why Cyborg fits with Dick in Teen Titans...because Dick isn't a tech nut and would prefer to stay away from it.
Each Robin can be summed up pretty quickly though...
Bruce = Necessity.
Dick = Fun.
Jason = Vengeance.
Tim = Righteousness.
Stephany = Self-Discovery.
Damian = Respect.
Those are the reasons each Robin became Robin.
Every incarnation of Robin i have seen outside of comics is almost always Dick who almost always gets the personality right, but never understand where that fun loving side of Dick is derived and it is made worse by splicing Tim's attributes onto him to make it "modern" which is unneeded. Dick is an athlete, pure and simple. He derives pleasures from the adventure and honing his physical skills to the max, pushing himself further and further. Tim on the other hand is an observer. He has a drive to make himself and those around him better and to do this he sharpens his intellect and his command of the world, deriving his pleasure from cracking a difficult mental puzzle or completely defeating someone long before the first moves have been made.
If I read through the comics there are issues that explain these traits perfectly that I've read and it is shown throughout their modern depictions in the comics (except for the last year which has largely been garbage v.v). One of the more pronounced things I remember about Tim is just how much he lords him knowing everyone else' Secret ID while noone can figure out his. Likewise, the Red Robin series is nearly perfect in showing his character, especially the confrontation with Ra's and the final issue. Dick on the other hand would find those things boring and would much rather just straight up fight Ra's.
I don't like the portrayals of Tim outside of media, for the same reason I hate idiots splicing on Tim to Dick, for the lack of understanding the character. Tim is not Tim. Tim when he isn't in the comics is Jason, a whiny, ignorant, kid, who is out for vengeance and looks on Bruce as a Father figure, mixed with a younger Dick and slightly toned down. That is the character we are always given and it is the character a lot of people hated or found annoying. And again it is a complete misunderstanding of the character. Tim is about doing what is right. He doesn't care about vengeance or "being" Robin, and while he respects Bruce he doesn't have a complex about him.
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