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    Thor Odinson is the All-father of Asgard /God of Thunder, offspring of All-Father Odin & Elder-Goddess Gaea. Combining the powers of both realms makes him an elder-god hybrid and a being of no perceivable limits. Armed with his enchanted Uru hammer Mjolnir which helps him to channel his godly energies. The mightiest and the most beloved warrior in all of Asgard, a staunch ally for good and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse/omniverse. Thor is also a founding member of the Avengers.

    Why is Thor's intelligence listed as 2?!

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    I think that a definite case should be made that their is a difference in being 'wise' and being 'intelligent'. While the two words definitely have some overlap, they aren't necessarily the same. We can see this in every day life really. Wisdom comes more from life experience while intelligence comes from the capacity of a person's learning. An 11 year old can be classified a genius but how many classify an 11 year old wonder as 'wise'? They simply lack the life experience. This is also why for most people 'wisdom' is synonymous for ' old'. Being an immortal, I suspect Thor is VERY wise, but that isn't necessarily reflected in his intelligence. Just something to think about.

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    #102  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @darkazrael999: Simply stating someone is "wise or intelligent" doesn't prove that they are, hence why we determine everything by feats. Thor has never displayed anything to categorize him above a class 2 rank in intelligence.

    Yes he has.

    Prove it.

    First of all what do mean by that he has only displayed normal intelligence. When me and Vance Astro were talking he said that comic intelligence is ranked differenlty what might seem above normal in real life will apear differnlty in the comic world. Vance word ''We are talking about what is "normal" by comic standards.In comics genius level characters create things that our would have never seen, they know things we don't know.They are adept at things on a level humans can only dream of.Spider-Man is considered "gifted" but by realistic standards Peter Parker would be the smartest person on earth.As far as comics are concerned..Thor is normal''. Do rank normal according to what he said or do rank noraml according to how is like in real life?

    When you're referring to a comic book character, the only way you can relate them to any sort of intelligence standard would be with their own "universe", not reality. What does Thor have to do with our reality/real life? This is a website about comic book characters with their own universes and lives. It's pretty evident that we rank them according to Vance has said.

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    #103  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @darkazrael999: Simply stating someone is "wise or intelligent" doesn't prove that they are, hence why we determine everything by feats. Thor has never displayed anything to categorize him above a class 2 rank in intelligence.

    Yes he has.

    Prove it.

    First of all what do mean by that he has only displayed normal intelligence. When me and Vance Astro were talking he said that comic intelligence is ranked differenlty what might seem above normal in real life will apear differnlty in the comic world. Vance word ''We are talking about what is "normal" by comic standards.In comics genius level characters create things that our would have never seen, they know things we don't know.They are adept at things on a level humans can only dream of.Spider-Man is considered "gifted" but by realistic standards Peter Parker would be the smartest person on earth.As far as comics are concerned..Thor is normal''. Do rank normal according to what he said or do rank noraml according to how is like in real life?

    When you're referring to a comic book character, the only way you can relate them to any sort of intelligence standard would be with their own "universe", not reality. What does Thor have to do with our reality/real life? This is a website about comic book characters with their own universes and lives. It's pretty evident that we rank them according to Vance has said.

    Is that how you rank comic book intelligence? Because the intelligence that Thor has displayed its impressive despite not being genius level when looked in real life situations.

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    #104  Edited By kheranlord12

    @MonkeyToe said:

    I think that a definite case should be made that their is a difference in being 'wise' and being 'intelligent'. While the two words definitely have some overlap, they aren't necessarily the same. We can see this in every day life really. Wisdom comes more from life experience while intelligence comes from the capacity of a person's learning. An 11 year old can be classified a genius but how many classify an 11 year old wonder as 'wise'? They simply lack the life experience. This is also why for most people 'wisdom' is synonymous for ' old'. Being an immortal, I suspect Thor is VERY wise, but that isn't necessarily reflected in his intelligence. Just something to think about.

    You can't be wise without being intelligent. Wisdon is the application of intelligence(logic and problen solving skills) and experience you are bascilly using your intelligence via life experience.

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    #105  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @darkazrael999: Simply stating someone is "wise or intelligent" doesn't prove that they are, hence why we determine everything by feats. Thor has never displayed anything to categorize him above a class 2 rank in intelligence.

    Yes he has.

    Prove it.

    First of all what do mean by that he has only displayed normal intelligence. When me and Vance Astro were talking he said that comic intelligence is ranked differenlty what might seem above normal in real life will apear differnlty in the comic world. Vance word ''We are talking about what is "normal" by comic standards.In comics genius level characters create things that our would have never seen, they know things we don't know.They are adept at things on a level humans can only dream of.Spider-Man is considered "gifted" but by realistic standards Peter Parker would be the smartest person on earth.As far as comics are concerned..Thor is normal''. Do rank normal according to what he said or do rank noraml according to how is like in real life?

    When you're referring to a comic book character, the only way you can relate them to any sort of intelligence standard would be with their own "universe", not reality. What does Thor have to do with our reality/real life? This is a website about comic book characters with their own universes and lives. It's pretty evident that we rank them according to Vance has said.

    Is that how you rank comic book intelligence? Because the intelligence that Thor has displayed its impressive despite not being genius level when looked in real life situations.

    Again, what does a comic book character have anything to do with real life situations? Sounds like you're attempting to give Thor a crutch. The reason why we're assuming the intelligence on a different scale than reality because the vast majority of things accomplished by comic book characters with higher levels of intellect are virtually impossible by realistic standards. For example, Parker creating web shooters at the age of 16 is wildly unheard of in our lives, but in his universe, it's mildly impressive compared to what Black Panther, Bruce Banner, Reed Richards, Tony Stark and Doctor Doom have all done.

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    #106  Edited By MonkeyToe

    @warlord1234 said:

    @MonkeyToe said:

    I think that a definite case should be made that their is a difference in being 'wise' and being 'intelligent'. While the two words definitely have some overlap, they aren't necessarily the same. We can see this in every day life really. Wisdom comes more from life experience while intelligence comes from the capacity of a person's learning. An 11 year old can be classified a genius but how many classify an 11 year old wonder as 'wise'? They simply lack the life experience. This is also why for most people 'wisdom' is synonymous for ' old'. Being an immortal, I suspect Thor is VERY wise, but that isn't necessarily reflected in his intelligence. Just something to think about.

    You can't be wise without being intelligent. Wisdon is the application of intelligence(logic and problen solving skills) and experience you are bascilly using your intelligence via life experience.

    Sorry, I disagree with you. You can have an immeasurable IQ and not be wise in the ways of the world. A college graduate may not be wise enough to know that the mechanic he goes to see is over charging him because the kid doesn't know any better or a high school drop out can transform himself into a king of an underground crime syndicate. One is intelligence and one is wisdom. Wisdom is the application of experience, not intelligence. An astrophysicist is an intelligent person, but how does he apply that knowledge in common life? He could navigate by the stars but couldn't avoid a mugging in central park.

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    #107  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @darkazrael999: Simply stating someone is "wise or intelligent" doesn't prove that they are, hence why we determine everything by feats. Thor has never displayed anything to categorize him above a class 2 rank in intelligence.

    Yes he has.

    Prove it.

    First of all what do mean by that he has only displayed normal intelligence. When me and Vance Astro were talking he said that comic intelligence is ranked differenlty what might seem above normal in real life will apear differnlty in the comic world. Vance word ''We are talking about what is "normal" by comic standards.In comics genius level characters create things that our would have never seen, they know things we don't know.They are adept at things on a level humans can only dream of.Spider-Man is considered "gifted" but by realistic standards Peter Parker would be the smartest person on earth.As far as comics are concerned..Thor is normal''. Do rank normal according to what he said or do rank noraml according to how is like in real life?

    When you're referring to a comic book character, the only way you can relate them to any sort of intelligence standard would be with their own "universe", not reality. What does Thor have to do with our reality/real life? This is a website about comic book characters with their own universes and lives. It's pretty evident that we rank them according to Vance has said.

    Is that how you rank comic book intelligence? Because the intelligence that Thor has displayed its impressive despite not being genius level when looked in real life situations.

    Again, what does a comic book character have anything to do with real life situations? Sounds like you're attempting to give Thor a crutch. The reason why we're assuming the intelligence on a different scale than reality because the vast majority of things accomplished by comic book characters with higher levels of intellect are virtually impossible by realistic standards. For example, Parker creating web shooters at the age of 16 is wildly unheard of in our lives, but in his universe, it's mildly impressive compared to what Black Panther, Bruce Banner, Reed Richards, Tony Stark and Doctor Doom have all done.

    Simply because the things that he has done are considered to be above areage in real life situation. Why would someone want to create a web shooter? I think some of the feat that marvel top genius have done could be done in real life. Long time ago people thouht that some disease could not be slowed down by medicine. Its manily due to resource and sociey somewhat scorn for creavity thinking that these there have not been amazing feats that are compared to comics. Anyway the reason why i judge Thor intelligence above normal is because i judge intelligence in terms of thinking skills.

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    #108  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @darkazrael999: Simply stating someone is "wise or intelligent" doesn't prove that they are, hence why we determine everything by feats. Thor has never displayed anything to categorize him above a class 2 rank in intelligence.

    Yes he has.

    Prove it.

    First of all what do mean by that he has only displayed normal intelligence. When me and Vance Astro were talking he said that comic intelligence is ranked differenlty what might seem above normal in real life will apear differnlty in the comic world. Vance word ''We are talking about what is "normal" by comic standards.In comics genius level characters create things that our would have never seen, they know things we don't know.They are adept at things on a level humans can only dream of.Spider-Man is considered "gifted" but by realistic standards Peter Parker would be the smartest person on earth.As far as comics are concerned..Thor is normal''. Do rank normal according to what he said or do rank noraml according to how is like in real life?

    When you're referring to a comic book character, the only way you can relate them to any sort of intelligence standard would be with their own "universe", not reality. What does Thor have to do with our reality/real life? This is a website about comic book characters with their own universes and lives. It's pretty evident that we rank them according to Vance has said.

    Is that how you rank comic book intelligence? Because the intelligence that Thor has displayed its impressive despite not being genius level when looked in real life situations.

    Again, what does a comic book character have anything to do with real life situations? Sounds like you're attempting to give Thor a crutch. The reason why we're assuming the intelligence on a different scale than reality because the vast majority of things accomplished by comic book characters with higher levels of intellect are virtually impossible by realistic standards. For example, Parker creating web shooters at the age of 16 is wildly unheard of in our lives, but in his universe, it's mildly impressive compared to what Black Panther, Bruce Banner, Reed Richards, Tony Stark and Doctor Doom have all done.

    Simply because the things that he has done are considered to be above areage in real life situation. Why would someone want to create a web shooter? I think some of the feat that marvel top genius have done could be done in real life. Long time ago people thouht that some disease could not be slowed down by medicine. Its manily due to resource and sociey somewhat scorn for creavity thinking that these there have not been amazing feats that are compared to comics. Anyway the reason why i judge Thor intelligence above normal is because i judge intelligence in terms of thinking skills.

    Too bad nothing that happens in comics can be mildly related to real life situations. Let me know when someone creates a fully functional suit of armour that let's them fly a several times the speed of sound and use repulser technology or when they create something that can fend off a massive galactic threat. Hell, scientists in our time have trouble deciding how to get rid of an asteroid if it's on course with Earth.

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    #109  Edited By kheranlord12

    @MonkeyToe said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @MonkeyToe said:

    I think that a definite case should be made that their is a difference in being 'wise' and being 'intelligent'. While the two words definitely have some overlap, they aren't necessarily the same. We can see this in every day life really. Wisdom comes more from life experience while intelligence comes from the capacity of a person's learning. An 11 year old can be classified a genius but how many classify an 11 year old wonder as 'wise'? They simply lack the life experience. This is also why for most people 'wisdom' is synonymous for ' old'. Being an immortal, I suspect Thor is VERY wise, but that isn't necessarily reflected in his intelligence. Just something to think about.

    You can't be wise without being intelligent. Wisdon is the application of intelligence(logic and problen solving skills) and experience you are bascilly using your intelligence via life experience.

    Sorry, I disagree with you. You can have an immeasurable IQ and not be wise in the ways of the world. A college graduate may not be wise enough to know that the mechanic he goes to see is over charging him because the kid doesn't know any better or a high school drop out can transform himself into a king of an underground crime syndicate. One is intelligence and one is wisdom. Wisdom is the application of experience, not intelligence. An astrophysicist is an intelligent person, but how does he apply that knowledge in common life? He could navigate by the stars but couldn't avoid a mugging in central park.

    It true what you say that you can have a immeasurbale IQ and not be wise but to be wise you have to be intelligent. Is bascilly like this all wise people are intelligent but not all intelligent people are wise. Intelligence has nothing to do with knowleadge intelligence is simply thinking skills such has logic, creavity, promblem solving and absract thinking and to some extent empath when it come to dealing with people. Most scientific discovery especially atoms have been discovered through logical deducation(which was intelligence primay is despite the fact that they are different types of intelligence) by drawing conclusion that types of thinking procces can be applied to anything not just science such has solving crime, trying to make the right descion and much more. Take the film Limtless for example the main character gain super intelligence but instead of learning science he dircted his intelligence toward finance and became a finamcial whiz. It all about where your intelligence is directed toward. Like you said someone before with wisdom someone can transform himself into a king of an underground crime syndicate and that because they have applied they intelligence with common knowledge the know the inner working of society, crime and politics, avoiding a mugger in the park take intelligence you first have to analyze them in order determine if they are mugger or not but then again in depend about the area and environment because not all muggers act the same for example a mugger in New York might act different then one in Brazil. At the end of the day is about were they intelligence foucs on.

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    #110  Edited By MonkeyToe

    @warlord1234 said:

    @MonkeyToe said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @MonkeyToe said:

    I think that a definite case should be made that their is a difference in being 'wise' and being 'intelligent'. While the two words definitely have some overlap, they aren't necessarily the same. We can see this in every day life really. Wisdom comes more from life experience while intelligence comes from the capacity of a person's learning. An 11 year old can be classified a genius but how many classify an 11 year old wonder as 'wise'? They simply lack the life experience. This is also why for most people 'wisdom' is synonymous for ' old'. Being an immortal, I suspect Thor is VERY wise, but that isn't necessarily reflected in his intelligence. Just something to think about.

    You can't be wise without being intelligent. Wisdon is the application of intelligence(logic and problen solving skills) and experience you are bascilly using your intelligence via life experience.

    Sorry, I disagree with you. You can have an immeasurable IQ and not be wise in the ways of the world. A college graduate may not be wise enough to know that the mechanic he goes to see is over charging him because the kid doesn't know any better or a high school drop out can transform himself into a king of an underground crime syndicate. One is intelligence and one is wisdom. Wisdom is the application of experience, not intelligence. An astrophysicist is an intelligent person, but how does he apply that knowledge in common life? He could navigate by the stars but couldn't avoid a mugging in central park.

    It true what you say that you can have a immeasurbale IQ and not be wise but to be wise you have to be intelligent. Is bascilly like this all wise people are intelligent but not all intelligent people are wise. Intelligence has nothing to do with knowleadge intelligence is simply thinking skills such has logic, creavity, promblem solving and absract thinking and to some extent empath when it come to dealing with people. Most scientific discovery especially atoms have been discovered through logical deducation(which was intelligence primay is despite the fact that they are different types of intelligence) by drawing conclusion that types of thinking procces can be applied to anything not just science such has solving crime, trying to make the right descion and much more. Take the film Limtless for example the main character gain super intelligence but instead of learning science he dircted his intelligence toward finance and became a finamcial whiz. It all about where your intelligence is directed toward. Like you said someone before with wisdom someone can transform himself into a king of an underground crime syndicate and that because they have applied they intelligence with common knowledge the know the inner working of society, crime and politics, avoiding a mugger in the park take intelligence you first have to analyze them in order determine if they are mugger or not but then again in depend about the area and environment because not all muggers act the same for example a mugger in New York might act different then one in Brazil. At the end of the day is about were they intelligence foucs on.

    Intelligence has everything to do with knowledge because it is defined as "capacityforlearning,reasoning,understanding,andsimilarformsofmentalactivity;aptitudeingraspingtruths,relationships,facts,meanings,etc." Where as Wise is defined as "havingthepowerofdiscerningandjudgingproperlyastowhatistrueorright;possessingdiscernment,judgment,ordiscretion."

    To me it seems the other way around. You can be wise without being intelligent, because you don't need to learn from scholarly sources what feels right and wrong; but you can't be intelligent without knowledge.

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    #111  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @darkazrael999: Simply stating someone is "wise or intelligent" doesn't prove that they are, hence why we determine everything by feats. Thor has never displayed anything to categorize him above a class 2 rank in intelligence.

    Yes he has.

    Prove it.

    First of all what do mean by that he has only displayed normal intelligence. When me and Vance Astro were talking he said that comic intelligence is ranked differenlty what might seem above normal in real life will apear differnlty in the comic world. Vance word ''We are talking about what is "normal" by comic standards.In comics genius level characters create things that our would have never seen, theyknow things we don't know.They are adept at things on a level humans can only dream of.Spider-Man is considered "gifted" but by realistic standards Peter Parker would be the smartest person on earth.As far as comics are concerned..Thor is normal''. Do rank normal according to what he said or do rank noraml according to how is like in real life?

    When you're referring to a comic book character, the only way you can relate them to any sort of intelligence standard would be with their own "universe", not reality. What does Thor have to do with our reality/real life? This is a website about comic book characters with their own universes and lives. It's pretty evident that we rank them according to Vance has said.

    Is that how you rank comic book intelligence? Because the intelligence that Thor has displayed its impressive despite not being genius level when looked in real life situations.

    Again, what does a comic book character have anything to do with real life situations? Sounds like you're attempting to give Thor a crutch. The reason why we're assuming the intelligence on a different scale than reality because the vast majority of things accomplished by comic book characters with higher levels of intellect are virtually impossible by realistic standards. For example, Parker creating web shooters at the age of 16 is wildly unheard of in our lives, but in his universe, it's mildly impressive compared to what Black Panther, Bruce Banner, Reed Richards, Tony Stark and Doctor Doom have all done.

    Simply because the things that he has done are considered to be above areage in real life situation. Why would someone want to create a web shooter? I think some of the feat that marvel top genius have done could be done in real life. Long time ago people thouht that some disease could not be slowed down by medicine. Its manily due to resource and sociey somewhat scorn for creavity thinking that these there have not been amazing feats that are compared to comics. Anyway the reason why i judge Thor intelligence above normal is because i judge intelligence in terms of thinking skills.

    Too bad nothing that happens in comics can be mildly related to real life situations. Let me know when someone creates a fully functional suit of armour that let's them fly a several times the speed of sound and use repulser technology or when they create something that can fend off a massive galactic threat. Hell, scientists in our time have trouble deciding how to get rid of an asteroid if it's on course with Earth.

    I that think nothing impossibe when it comes to science. Long time ago it thought to be impossibe to go to space let alone the moon technology it still vastly improving. It like i said before it times and resource. The reason why marvel top genius can do amazing things is because they have the resource to do it and beside we live in a society that favors self endowment. When global warming was first brought up all the powerful people were terrifed that there going to lose there money and power because they thought that renewable energy would take less energy and there main source of power came from non-renewable but when they found out the technolgy use to make renewable energy work take a lot of energy they started invested there money seeing that the are a lot of prophet invole in the technolgy. Do you really think that mind adanvce tehcology with a mind like that. Most of the techological wonders that you see in comics are design to benefit people you need to have the desire to help to to things like that.

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    #112  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234: Again, you're missing the point. Comics are situated in their own world, with their own realities and possibilites. Half the things we've seen in comics such as Tony's armour was first seen back in the 60's and it's still mind-blowing to see today as it was then. The simple truth is that people in comic book's are just far, far more intellectually superior than our reality because they aren't held down by restrictions hence why it makes no sense to compare Thor to real life intelligence. Which in turn, Peter Parker wouldn't even be able to be graded on our scale.

    Needless to say, Thor has done nothing worthwhile to prove he's above a rank 2 in intelligence. It's not like it's a bad thing, it's stated as what? Average intelligence?

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    #113  Edited By kheranlord12

    @MonkeyToe said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @MonkeyToe said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @MonkeyToe said:

    I think that a definite case should be made that their is a difference in being 'wise' and being 'intelligent'. While the two words definitely have some overlap, they aren't necessarily the same. We can see this in every day life really. Wisdom comes more from life experience while intelligence comes from the capacity of a person's learning. An 11 year old can be classified a genius but how many classify an 11 year old wonder as 'wise'? They simply lack the life experience. This is also why for most people 'wisdom' is synonymous for ' old'. Being an immortal, I suspect Thor is VERY wise, but that isn't necessarily reflected in his intelligence. Just something to think about.

    You can't be wise without being intelligent. Wisdon is the application of intelligence(logic and problen solving skills) and experience you are bascilly using your intelligence via life experience.

    Sorry, I disagree with you. You can have an immeasurable IQ and not be wise in the ways of the world. A college graduate may not be wise enough to know that the mechanic he goes to see is over charging him because the kid doesn't know any better or a high school drop out can transform himself into a king of an underground crime syndicate. One is intelligence and one is wisdom. Wisdom is the application of experience, not intelligence. An astrophysicist is an intelligent person, but how does he apply that knowledge in common life? He could navigate by the stars but couldn't avoid a mugging in central park.

    It true what you say that you can have a immeasurbale IQ and not be wise but to be wise you have to be intelligent. Is bascilly like this all wise people are intelligent but not all intelligent people are wise. Intelligence has nothing to do with knowleadge intelligence is simply thinking skills such has logic, creavity, promblem solving and absract thinking and to some extent empath when it come to dealing with people. Most scientific discovery especially atoms have been discovered through logical deducation(which was intelligence primay is despite the fact that they are different types of intelligence) by drawing conclusion that types of thinking procces can be applied to anything not just science such has solving crime, trying to make the right descion and much more. Take the film Limtless for example the main character gain super intelligence but instead of learning science he dircted his intelligence toward finance and became a finamcial whiz. It all about where your intelligence is directed toward. Like you said someone before with wisdom someone can transform himself into a king of an underground crime syndicate and that because they have applied they intelligence with common knowledge the know the inner working of society, crime and politics, avoiding a mugger in the park take intelligence you first have to analyze them in order determine if they are mugger or not but then again in depend about the area and environment because not all muggers act the same for example a mugger in New York might act different then one in Brazil. At the end of the day is about were they intelligence foucs on.

    Intelligence has everything to do with knowledge because it is defined as "capacityforlearning,reasoning,understanding,andsimilarformsofmentalactivity;aptitudeingraspingtruths,relationships,facts,meanings,etc." Where as Wise is defined as "havingthepowerofdiscerningandjudgingproperlyastowhatistrueorright;possessingdiscernment,judgment,ordiscretion."

    To me it seems the other way around. You can be wise without being intelligent, because you don't need to learn from scholarly sources what feels right and wrong; but you can't be intelligent without knowledge.

    No it dose not. Intelligence is not knowledge but thinking skills if intelligence was just knowleadge then we be in still be in the stone age because most invention are knowledge that is apllication of creavity. Take a test for example anyone that pass a exam its condsided to be intelligent if that the case then intelligence it thinking skills because it an exam there question that you have to answer and you to work out the truth by drawing logical conclusion in order to answer the question. Intelligence can be geared toward anything.

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    #114  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: Again, you're missing the point. Comics are situated in their own world, with their own realities and possibilites. Half the things we've seen in comics such as Tony's armour was first seen back in the 60's and it's still mind-blowing to see today as it was then. The simple truth is that people in comic book's are just far, far more intellectually superior than our reality because they aren't held down by restrictions hence why it makes no sense to compare Thor to real life intelligence. Which in turn, Peter Parker wouldn't even be able to be graded on our scale.

    Needless to say, Thor has done nothing worthwhile to prove he's above a rank 2 in intelligence. It's not like it's a bad thing, it's stated as what? Average intelligence?

    Tony Stark amour is mind blowing to science who not into enegineering and science. Comic book character have more resource and they not in it to make money there in it to help society due to the facts that there are vast amont of people willing to help humility and the reason why i said that Thr intelligence was above arevage was because the intelligence he has displayed people would ranked that above normal. I don't care if for bad if intelligence is not above 2 i am merly just stating the things i have seen in the his comics.

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    #115  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: Again, you're missing the point. Comics are situated in their own world, with their own realities and possibilites. Half the things we've seen in comics such as Tony's armour was first seen back in the 60's and it's still mind-blowing to see today as it was then. The simple truth is that people in comic book's are just far, far more intellectually superior than our reality because they aren't held down by restrictions hence why it makes no sense to compare Thor to real life intelligence. Which in turn, Peter Parker wouldn't even be able to be graded on our scale.

    Needless to say, Thor has done nothing worthwhile to prove he's above a rank 2 in intelligence. It's not like it's a bad thing, it's stated as what? Average intelligence?

    Tony Stark amour is mind blowing to science who not into enegineering and science. Comic book character have more resource and they not in it to make money there in it to help society due to the facts that there are vast amont of people willing to help humility and the reason why i said that Thr intelligence was above arevage was because the intelligence he has displayed people would ranked that above normal. I don't care if for bad if intelligence is not above 2 i am merly just stating the things i have seen in the his comics.

    No, it's mind-blowing to everyone. If it wasn't, we'd have already developed something similar to it. You keep repeating yourself stating that you've seen Thor demonstrate intellect feats that would put him above a rank 2. Prove it, throw up some scans.

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    #116  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: Again, you're missing the point. Comics are situated in their own world, with their own realities and possibilites. Half the things we've seen in comics such as Tony's armour was first seen back in the 60's and it's still mind-blowing to see today as it was then. The simple truth is that people in comic book's are just far, far more intellectually superior than our reality because they aren't held down by restrictions hence why it makes no sense to compare Thor to real life intelligence. Which in turn, Peter Parker wouldn't even be able to be graded on our scale.

    Needless to say, Thor has done nothing worthwhile to prove he's above a rank 2 in intelligence. It's not like it's a bad thing, it's stated as what? Average intelligence?

    Tony Stark amour is mind blowing to science who not into enegineering and science. Comic book character have more resource and they not in it to make money there in it to help society due to the facts that there are vast amont of people willing to help humility and the reason why i said that Thr intelligence was above arevage was because the intelligence he has displayed people would ranked that above normal. I don't care if for bad if intelligence is not above 2 i am merly just stating the things i have seen in the his comics.

    No, it's mind-blowing to everyone. If it wasn't, we'd have already developed something similar to it. You keep repeating yourself stating that you've seen Thor demonstrate intellect feats that would put him above a rank 2. Prove it, throw up some scans.

    I have akready explain why the technology have not been developed it to much time consuming and they have to meet deadline why do you think that medcine do not cure diease not only fight the symptom? When I said above normal i meant what people would associte if they were to it in real life. But since you are eager to know Thor intelligence i give some fea feats. In Thor for asgard Thor being made a cirtical descion when he fought the giants on the battlefield were him and his fellow warriors killed the giants and there kids because the giants were using the kids and women has a shield if Thor did not use attack and retreated his foes might have that tried that tactics and might have damage asgard empire and he was not willing to risk that. This shows that Thor is capable of thinking of the outcome and shows great critcal thinking skills. In Thor blood oath He has the ability to precive magic and understand it realtionship with science and he can see the building block of everything down to sub atomtic level this shows that Thor has great sensory perception. In Thor vol 2 he shown the ability to all language in and in one of old comic he has shown to speak all the language in the nine world this show that Thor has great linguistic skills.In one of the avangers comic Captain America once stated that Thor is a great military leader that his understanding of tactics and stragies encompasses the teachings of cultures over several centuries this shows that Thor has great thought process which need when it comes to military tactics because you need to quicky counter attack and find weakness in the heat of battle.

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    #117  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234: While that's all decently acceptable for a being who has been alive for a few thousand of years, nothing I see there is especially eye-catching. Knowing all the languages of the nine-worlds? Time was on his side. Critical battle decisions? Almost every army General or leader has to make those and Cap has displayed far better feats in that category. I don't know how to categorize his knowledge of both magic and science in comparison to true intelligence but it sounds like a decent feat.

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    #118  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: While that's all decently acceptable for a being who has been alive for a few thousand of years, nothing I see there is especially eye-catching. Knowing all the languages of the nine-worlds? Time was on his side. Critical battle decisions? Almost every army General or leader has to make those and Cap has displayed far better feats in that category. I don't know how to categorize his knowledge of both magic and science in comparison to true intelligence but it sounds like a decent feat.

    Intelligence has nothing to with age. You still have old people who are not very bright.

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    #119  Edited By Mooty_Pass

    @troller said:

    Hulk has Bruce Banners' smarts, and Thor is a dum fck who just smashes stuff and cannot do ANY form of science, philosophy, theory, ideas.

    In short its because Thor is dumb

    hahahaha your funny.

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    #120  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: Again, you're missing the point. Comics are situated in their own world, with their own realities and possibilites. Half the things we've seen in comics such as Tony's armour was first seen back in the 60's and it's still mind-blowing to see today as it was then. The simple truth is that people in comic book's are just far, far more intellectually superior than our reality because they aren't held down by restrictions hence why it makes no sense to compare Thor to real life intelligence. Which in turn, Peter Parker wouldn't even be able to be graded on our scale.

    Needless to say, Thor has done nothing worthwhile to prove he's above a rank 2 in intelligence. It's not like it's a bad thing, it's stated as what? Average intelligence?

    This is basically the point I made.Characters that are only considered gifted in comics would be super geniuses in reality. 
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    #121  Edited By The_Thunderer

    @Vance Astro: You are missing the point I'M trying to make, you said earlier, that "average intelligence is in relation to the entire comic book universe" so therefore your claim is that Thor is only as intelligent as an average guy in the comic book universe which cannot be true simply because of the things he has seen and done..If you look at our world today the average intelligence would be quite low due to the large number of poor countries and corrupt governments who don't provide education so we have large numbers of not very intelligent people, admittedly in the comic book universe there is no mention to poverty or lack of education being a real problem, but that doesn't mean everyone in comics is super intelligent, it means that they might have slightly more intelligence (on average) than in our world, but Thor still ought to be way above average intelligence,

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    #122  Edited By Soulstealer

    @The_Thunderer said:

    @Vance Astro: I think you forget of the millions of normal people in the comic universe against whom Thor is vastly wiser and probably more intelligent

    Those people wouldn't have rankings at all obviously. LOL So I'm going to say their rank of 0 is slightly smaller than Thor's 2... but that's just me.

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    #123  Edited By The_Thunderer

    @Soulstealer: he was claiming that these people are the average intelligence which makes sense, and so they are all 2

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    #124  Edited By Soulstealer

    @The_Thunderer said:

    @Soulstealer: he was claiming that these people are the average intelligence which makes sense, and so they are all 2

    Actually it's average according to the ranking, however it doesn't say if it's average for the universe as a whole or for the super hero community. So there is that...

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    #126  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @The_Thunderer said:

    @Vance Astro: You are missing the point I'M trying to make, you said earlier, that "average intelligence is in relation to the entire comic book universe" so therefore your claim is that Thor is only as intelligent as an average guy in the comic book universe which cannot be true simply because of the things he has seen and done..If you look at our world today the average intelligence would be quite low due to the large number of poor countries and corrupt governments who don't provide education so we have large numbers of not very intelligent people, admittedly in the comic book universe there is no mention to poverty or lack of education being a real problem, but that doesn't mean everyone in comics is super intelligent, it means that they might have slightly more intelligence (on average) than in our world, but Thor still ought to be way above average intelligence,

    I'm not missing the point you're trying to make.There is only one way to prove intellect in comics and that is by matching up to other characters deemed on his level.I don't have a clue what the intellect of the average person would be in the Marvel Universe because those characters don't get any face time and don't do anything but you can't possibly believe that Thor is only character rated a 2 in the Marvel Universe, right? So in that case in order for Thor to ranked higher he would either have to have intellect showings that are on the same level of those who are ranked above him or he would have to have showings that are significantly better than those placed on the same level.I never said anything about EVERYONE in comics being super intelligent.I'm simply saying that what in comics the would called gifted or simply a genius is a character that has done with intellect what no real life person could do.So I think it's safe to also say that what they would consider normal would be above what we believe is average in real life.
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    #127  Edited By The_Thunderer

    @Vance Astro said:

    @The_Thunderer said:

    @Vance Astro: You are missing the point I'M trying to make, you said earlier, that "average intelligence is in relation to the entire comic book universe" so therefore your claim is that Thor is only as intelligent as an average guy in the comic book universe which cannot be true simply because of the things he has seen and done..If you look at our world today the average intelligence would be quite low due to the large number of poor countries and corrupt governments who don't provide education so we have large numbers of not very intelligent people, admittedly in the comic book universe there is no mention to poverty or lack of education being a real problem, but that doesn't mean everyone in comics is super intelligent, it means that they might have slightly more intelligence (on average) than in our world, but Thor still ought to be way above average intelligence,

    I'm not missing the point you're trying to make.There is only one way to prove intellect in comics and that is by matching up to other characters deemed on his level.I don't have a clue what the intellect of the average person would be in the Marvel Universe because those characters don't get any face time and don't do anything but you can't possibly believe that Thor is only character rated a 2 in the Marvel Universe, right? So in that case in order for Thor to ranked higher he would either have to have intellect showings that are on the same level of those who are ranked above him or he would have to have showings that are significantly better than those placed on the same level.I never said anything about EVERYONE in comics being super intelligent.I'm simply saying that what in comics the would called gifted or simply a genius is a character that has done with intellect what no real life person could do.So I think it's safe to also say that what they would consider normal would be above what we believe is average in real life.

    Regardless Thor should be above normal superhero intelligence..

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    #128  Edited By ShootingNova

    @The_Thunderer said:

    @Vance Astro said:

    @The_Thunderer said:

    @Vance Astro: You are missing the point I'M trying to make, you said earlier, that "average intelligence is in relation to the entire comic book universe" so therefore your claim is that Thor is only as intelligent as an average guy in the comic book universe which cannot be true simply because of the things he has seen and done..If you look at our world today the average intelligence would be quite low due to the large number of poor countries and corrupt governments who don't provide education so we have large numbers of not very intelligent people, admittedly in the comic book universe there is no mention to poverty or lack of education being a real problem, but that doesn't mean everyone in comics is super intelligent, it means that they might have slightly more intelligence (on average) than in our world, but Thor still ought to be way above average intelligence,

    I'm not missing the point you're trying to make.There is only one way to prove intellect in comics and that is by matching up to other characters deemed on his level.I don't have a clue what the intellect of the average person would be in the Marvel Universe because those characters don't get any face time and don't do anything but you can't possibly believe that Thor is only character rated a 2 in the Marvel Universe, right? So in that case in order for Thor to ranked higher he would either have to have intellect showings that are on the same level of those who are ranked above him or he would have to have showings that are significantly better than those placed on the same level.I never said anything about EVERYONE in comics being super intelligent.I'm simply saying that what in comics the would called gifted or simply a genius is a character that has done with intellect what no real life person could do.So I think it's safe to also say that what they would consider normal would be above what we believe is average in real life.

    Regardless Thor should be above normal superhero intelligence..

    He just rushes people. Too obsessed with battle and war and too arrogant (although he got better).

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    #129  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @The_Thunderer said:

    Regardless Thor should be above normal superhero intelligence..

    Why? To diminish the validity of the handbook, to please Thor fans, as a joke, I don't get it? He's done nothing to suggest he's smarter than anyone else ranked a 2, nor has he done anything to suggest he is smart enough to be ranked among characters of 3 rank intelligence.
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    #130  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: While that's all decently acceptable for a being who has been alive for a few thousand of years, nothing I see there is especially eye-catching. Knowing all the languages of the nine-worlds? Time was on his side. Critical battle decisions? Almost every army General or leader has to make those and Cap has displayed far better feats in that category. I don't know how to categorize his knowledge of both magic and science in comparison to true intelligence but it sounds like a decent feat.

    Intelligence has nothing to with age. You still have old people who are not very bright.

    Yeah, but you give me a few hundred years and I can learn all the languages on Earth. If it's not about intelligence, then why bring it up?

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    #131  Edited By BatWatch

    Yeah, Thor has never struck me as the smartest character. I would say he has average intelligence.

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    #132  Edited By Werupenstein

    I don't understand how Superman, according to the wiki is described as being super intelligent yet Thor isn't.

    The only reason anyone(Batman, Lex Luthor, Brainiac) ever beats Superman is by tricking him or outsmarting him, there isn't anything inherently intelligent about Superman other than his experience, and surely Thor over thousands of years of life has more experience/wisdom.

    I hate these threads, just ticks me off that Superman has Super intelligence listed as one of his powers here on this site.

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    #133  Edited By ThePhoenX

    @Vance Astro: I hate to disagree (especially with a moderator XD), but ....

    It goes without saying that is totally official (approved by Stan L. & Joe Q.) XD

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    #134  Edited By Soulstealer

    @Werupenstein said:

    I don't understand how Superman, according to the wiki is described as being super intelligent yet Thor isn't.

    The only reason anyone(Batman, Lex Luthor, Brainiac) ever beats Superman is by tricking him or outsmarting him, there isn't anything inherently intelligent about Superman other than his experience, and surely Thor over thousands of years of life has more experience/wisdom.

    I hate these threads, just ticks me off that Superman has Super intelligence listed as one of his powers here on this site.

    Um...one is a DC character that obviously would be held to completely different set of standards, than the other that is a Marvel character. Also last I checked Superman was at least capable of utilizing Kryptonian tech of rather obvious advancity, not to mention all the stuff that the League probably uses everyday.

    Can't say I've ever seen Thor pilot a spacecraft or run a teleporter, or use X-ray vision to look through a piece of technology to discover it's weakness. Or use martial arts. Also there is the fact that his brain is capable of processing info while moving at light speed (given his combat speed feats) and I know we've all seen the Supes busting a moon scan that's floating around as Batman explains the physics involved which Supes obviously understands seeing as he's the one preforming the feat.

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    I'll admit though that we never get verification on the fact Supes understands the science behind this instead of having simply performed the feat enough to know how it's preformed. But still it happened and was done as Batman describes obviously and how many moons could Supes realistically have busted? I'm hardly a DC expert (and by hardly I mean almost not at all knowledgeable) but I can say that Supes doesn't seem like a slouch in the intellect department even if he is the brick that goes in swinging as media tends to paint him to my sensibilities.

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    #135  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: While that's all decently acceptable for a being who has been alive for a few thousand of years, nothing I see there is especially eye-catching. Knowing all the languages of the nine-worlds? Time was on his side. Critical battle decisions? Almost every army General or leader has to make those and Cap has displayed far better feats in that category. I don't know how to categorize his knowledge of both magic and science in comparison to true intelligence but it sounds like a decent feat.

    Intelligence has nothing to with age. You still have old people who are not very bright.

    Yeah, but you give me a few hundred years and I can learn all the languages on Earth. If it's not about intelligence, then why bring it up?

    What i mean is that you still have older people who are not bright.

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    #136  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Vance Astro said:

    @The_Thunderer said:

    Regardless Thor should be above normal superhero intelligence..

    Why? To diminish the validity of the handbook, to please Thor fans, as a joke, I don't get it? He's done nothing to suggest he's smarter than anyone else ranked a 2, nor has he done anything to suggest he is smart enough to be ranked among characters of 3 rank intelligence.

    How would you judge person intelligence in terms of comics?

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    #137  Edited By Dhor

    because even the writers consider him dumb.

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    #138  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: While that's all decently acceptable for a being who has been alive for a few thousand of years, nothing I see there is especially eye-catching. Knowing all the languages of the nine-worlds? Time was on his side. Critical battle decisions? Almost every army General or leader has to make those and Cap has displayed far better feats in that category. I don't know how to categorize his knowledge of both magic and science in comparison to true intelligence but it sounds like a decent feat.

    Intelligence has nothing to with age. You still have old people who are not very bright.

    Yeah, but you give me a few hundred years and I can learn all the languages on Earth. If it's not about intelligence, then why bring it up?

    What i mean is that you still have older people who are not bright.

    Case in point; Thor.

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    #139  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: While that's all decently acceptable for a being who has been alive for a few thousand of years, nothing I see there is especially eye-catching. Knowing all the languages of the nine-worlds? Time was on his side. Critical battle decisions? Almost every army General or leader has to make those and Cap has displayed far better feats in that category. I don't know how to categorize his knowledge of both magic and science in comparison to true intelligence but it sounds like a decent feat.

    Intelligence has nothing to with age. You still have old people who are not very bright.

    Yeah, but you give me a few hundred years and I can learn all the languages on Earth. If it's not about intelligence, then why bring it up?

    What i mean is that you still have older people who are not bright.

    Case in point; Thor.

    What do you mean?

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    #140  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234: You stated that in some cases, older people don't have the wisdom they should have after having a lengthy life. I responded with the example of Thor.

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    #141  Edited By OmegaRed86

    Ok, why the hell does he need to learn Earth technology, Earth Science, Earth Languages, or anything relating to the planet. He's from Asgard and he's knowledgeable in the ways of Asgardian warfare, royalty, magic, etc. He's not an idiot, there's just no point in him learning how to use a computer when he can deactivate every electronic device on the planet.

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    #142  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
    @ThePhoenX said:

    It goes without saying that is totally official (approved by Stan L. & Joe Q.) XD

    What?
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    #143  Edited By ThePhoenX

    @Vance Astro:Sorry! My Fault :(! There's a transparent Gif in my post! Just click on it! XD

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    #144  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: You stated that in some cases, older people don't have the wisdom they should have after having a lengthy life. I responded with the example of Thor.

    When i said that not all old people are smart what i meant is that they do not tale time to learn anything new due to the fact that there do not learn from they mistake or not try to gain an educations. Thor can speak all language on earth and the nine world knows military tatics can arrange battle lines and see weakness in military attacks and has the ability to see the building blocks of the universe on a sub atomic level. Again i am not saying that Thor is a genius just saying that he is highy intelligent.

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    #145  Edited By kheranlord12

    @OmegaRed86 said:

    Ok, why the hell does he need to learn Earth technology, Earth Science, Earth Languages, or anything relating to the planet. He's from Asgard and he's knowledgeablein the ways of Asgardian warfare, royalty, magic, etc. He's not an idiot, there's just no point in him learning how to use a computer when hecan deactivateevery electronic device on the planet.

    He can speak all languages on Earth.

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    #146  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234 said:

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    @warlord1234: You stated that in some cases, older people don't have the wisdom they should have after having a lengthy life. I responded with the example of Thor.

    When i said that not all old people are smart what i meant is that they do not tale time to learn anything new due to the fact that there do not learn from they mistake or not try to gain an educations. Thor can speak all language on earth and the nine world knows military tatics can arrange battle lines and see weakness in military attacks and has the ability to see the building blocks of the universe on a sub atomic level. Again i am not saying that Thor is a genius just saying that he is highy intelligent.

    Again, Thor has been fighting for the majority of his entire life. It's almost mandatory that he should've learned some sort of tactics and learning the languages merely takes time.

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    #147  Edited By Dhor

    apparently the hammer is as smart as Thor :))

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    #148  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234 said:

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: You stated that in some cases, older people don't have the wisdom they should have after having a lengthy life. I responded with the example of Thor.

    When i said that not all old people are smart what i meant is that they do not tale time to learn anything new due to the fact that there do not learn from they mistake or not try to gain an educations. Thor can speak all language on earth and the nine world knows military tatics can arrange battle lines and see weakness in military attacks and has the ability to see the building blocks of the universe on a sub atomic level. Again i am not saying that Thor is a genius just saying that he is highy intelligent.

    Again, Thor has been fighting for the majority of his entire life. It's almost mandatory that he should've learned some sort of tactics and learning the languages merely takes time.

    Which is still intelligence unless you see intelligence has something different. Remeber that i stated before that not all older people have wisdom because they do not learn bother to learn anything from past experience, mistake or to gain an education. So it not really mandatory to speak to speak different languages. In Thor case is impressive because some launguage or difficut to learn depending on which launguage you speak each laungage belongs to a different group and has different dialogue for example a Spanich would be able to learn Portuguese because both of these language are rooted from Latin and there have silmar dialogue but it would be a challenge to learn a different language that has different origin. Anyone who can speak different language that are different from each other an is impressive linguistic ability. Regardless of the situation intelligence is intelligence.

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    #149  Edited By Deranged Midget

    @warlord1234: It's impressive that Thor learned 9 different languages? Not so much.

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    #150  Edited By kheranlord12

    @Deranged Midget said:

    @warlord1234: It's impressive that Thor learned 9 different languages? Not so much.

    He can speak all language on Earth not just languages on is native world.

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