Hello, so I have a series where I take subjects that aren't often very well-liked, and go over reasons to like them. This most recent episode went over Thor. Reviews are super mixed for it and lots of folks say it's among the weakest of the MCU movies, so it felt like a good choice for an episode. If you're interested, pop a watch and chat it over with me. Thanks a lot if you do-

The first Thor has its flaws, but at least gave Thor a character arc. I just think Marvel neutered Thor desperately trying to "ground" him and humanize him by explaining Asgardians as super-powered aliens. It strips away the essential characteristic of Asgard and its characters (and multiple realms). At least it was better than the godawful "Dark World" sequel.

@haveatthee: Feige hates the idea of Gods and magic

The Thor movies aren't THAT bad, not like the two Hulk movies or IM3, and if we go beyond just the MCU films they're far superior to anything FOX did with the F4.

I enjoyed the Thor movies. Maybe not the death of characters that's just way to soon for Thor I mean killing off his mother for no reason. Loki was awesome in the movie and showed such potential for future projects. Loki the explorer one that says heck with the throne who has time for such nonsense.

Sif and the Enchantress looks promising in future movies however no fan what so ever of Jane tell me again why we even need her?

If anything they are rushing movies that could be epic that would make Thor not only the hero of Earth but the 9 Realms as well as Loki for he has always been council for Thor in myth why not bring that back?

Maybe a rough start but indeed a start is better then no movie stuck on the drawing boards and never brought to life because fans were stuck with noses secured in places I care not to talk about.

@kgb725: And this is exactly why I'm afraid of how they're going to handle another legendary classic character based on the magical. Doctor Strange.

I hope they don't treat him like a Tony Stark-lite "scientific" magician where the magic he learns is some type of "unknown science." That screams massive *yawn*.

And the second Thor (The Dark World) was just such an awful, awful film. No character development whatsoever. Another horribly plain, weak villain. Multiple reshoots and edits. The first director being fired (Patti Smith, I believe, who is now directing Wonder Woman). It was like a room full of execs and editors made up the movie to try and hit key demographics. They wanted to draw the Star Wars crowd as well as the Twilight crowd with all the "human falls in love with an immortal" garbage with Jane Foster, especially making her a walking plot-device in the movie itself.

And I think a massive problem that Hollywood has is obsessively trying to make gods or godlike characters "relatable." It's a tired trope of gods being more obsessed with humanity and wanting to live like humans (a la Clash of the Titans). The more you try to humanize these type of characters, the more generic and vanilla they become.