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Thor
Character » Thor appears in 8598 issues.
Thor Odinson is the All-father of Asgard /God of Thunder, offspring of All-Father Odin & Elder-Goddess Gaea. Combining the powers of both realms makes him an elder-god hybrid and a being of no perceivable limits. Armed with his enchanted Uru hammer Mjolnir which helps him to channel his godly energies. The mightiest and the most beloved warrior in all of Asgard, a staunch ally for good and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse/omniverse. Thor is also a founding member of the Avengers.
Is Thor written poorly ?
No he is written well enough given who he partners up with. Realistically the role of most of the Avengers should be reduced to clapping when Thor returns from saving the day but obviously that would get boring pretty fast.
Completely, Thor is waaaaaay more powerful then 95% of the Avengers. He just needs to job to fit in.
Thor has always been recognized as the most powerful Avenger (at least the most powerful consistent Avenger). Unfortunately, that means whenever a new threat is created, he's the one that the new character has to beat to show off their power.
Mjonlir back in it's heyday seemed to be able to produce almost effect Thor needed it to produce. As comics developed it became more and more powerful, until one day Mjonlir just seemed to stop having any special powers.
On the one hand, I wouldn't mind Mjonlir not being as powerful as it was in it's classic days. On the other hand, I really wish Thor would use the powers already established by Mjonlir, and start fighting more like Beta Ray Bill. That is, start showing more tactical thinking, and a lot more ruthlessness against his foes. As much as I love the whole "I depower myself to fight more evenly with my foes" personality, at some point I really wish he would re-establish himself as the most powerful Avenger.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@Bo88gdan said:
Yes yes yes
@Floopay said:
Thor has always been recognized as the most powerful Avenger (at least the most powerful consistent Avenger). Unfortunately, that means whenever a new threat is created, he's the one that the new character has to beat to show off their power.
Mjonlir back in it's heyday seemed to be able to produce almost effect Thor needed it to produce. As comics developed it became more and more powerful, until one day Mjonlir just seemed to stop having any special powers.
On the one hand, I wouldn't mind Mjonlir not being as powerful as it was in it's classic days. On the other hand, I really wish Thor would use the powers already established by Mjonlir, and start fighting more like Beta Ray Bill. That is, start showing more tactical thinking, and a lot more ruthlessness against his foes. As much as I love the whole "I depower myself to fight more evenly with my foes" personality, at some point I really wish he would re-establish himself as the most powerful Avenger.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
@BigCimmerian said:
Yes, he is one of the most powerful beings on the planet and he is still used as a punching bag.
If I read You correctly - I agree with You.yes and no
In most popular comics - yes, he seem to be written poorly.
In his other appearances - no, since he currently proved to have all his old abilities, killed Demogorge and The Serpent (last one not only on his own power), stomped Tanarus, fought with The Other, hurt Galactus, put down Glory, destroyed Clor, killed Angrir and (while weakned) took down Nul. Pretty good score for me...
No I don't think so. Thor is a powerful character but he isn't the most powerful marvel character and there are lots of characters in the Marvel U capable of taking him on.
One thing is for sure: there are enough of these threads all over the internet (questions like these must pop up five times a year on this site alone) to indicate that fans of Thor think he is a punching bag.
Yup he hasn't used 80% of his powers in years, Thor really has absolutely no reason to lose any his fights.
Actually he is using them, just not in most popular stories.Yup he hasn't used 80% of his powers in years, Thor really has absolutely no reason to lose any his fights.
Infinity Vortex or other kind of shield - last annual
FTL speed - Astonishing Thor
Immunity to telepathy - fight with Emma in AvX vs.
Drainning/abosrbing powers - Thor tie-in in Chaos War.
Anti-force blast - first issues of Avengers
God Blast - Astonishing Thor
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This belongs in the Thor forum.
But yes. He and Silver Surfer are two characters that most readers recognize as powerful, top tier, heroes, and unfortunately because of that (bad) writers tend to use that when introducing a new villain/threat, by having one of them job to said threat. It's suppose to have the effect of instantly making the new threat seem credible, and the first time it happens it does. When it starts happening consistently though, it just ends up making Thor/Surfer look weak instead.
@XImpossibruXsaid:
Completely, Thor is waaaaaay more powerful then 100% of the Avengers. He just needs to job to fit in.
Fixed.
@Moonchilde said:
This belongs in the Thor forum.
But yes. He and Silver Surfer are two characters that most readers recognize as powerful, top tier, heroes, and unfortunately because of that (bad) writers tend to use that when introducing a new villain/threat, by having one of them job to said threat. It's suppose to have the effect of instantly making the new threat seem credible, and the first time it happens it does. When it starts happening consistently though, it just ends up making Thor/Surfer look weak instead.
The Worf Effect
@czarny_samael666 said:
@solesamurai said:Actually he is using them, just not in most popular stories. Infinity Vortex or other kind of shield - last annual FTL speed - Astonishing Thor Immunity to telepathy - fight with Emma in AvX vs.Drainning/abosrbing powers - Thor tie-in in Chaos War. Anti-force blast - first issues of Avengers God Blast - Astonishing ThorYup he hasn't used 80% of his powers in years, Thor really has absolutely no reason to lose any his fights.
That's the thing thats less than 1/15th of his powers and he was never retconned. Classic Thor was like SA supes, dude had a new power everytime he appeared.
@czarny_samael666: and @czarny_samael666 said:
@solesamurai said:Actually he is using them, just not in most popular stories. Infinity Vortex or other kind of shield - last annual FTL speed - Astonishing Thor Immunity to telepathy - fight with Emma in AvX vs.Drainning/abosrbing powers - Thor tie-in in Chaos War. Anti-force blast - first issues of Avengers God Blast - Astonishing ThorYup he hasn't used 80% of his powers in years, Thor really has absolutely no reason to lose any his fights.
and where is the strength feats.... .... total wimp..... marvel has made him into
The whole AVX thing and tie in concearning Thor has been utterly ridiculous. It's like they have dumbbed down his true power. It's disrespectful to the character, fans , and creators of Thor in Marvel.
Yes, modern Thor was written poorly, just compare him with classic Thor.
exactly....he is written poorly... weak weak weak... no strength
and a punching bag alll the damn time..
avengers... he was slapped around... like a hockey puck
they allowed thanos to mind control hulk who knocked him out using his own hand and hammer......
he did NOTHing without mjolnir....... its painful to watch thor jobbed like this
Jason Aaron is doing a great job writing Thor, and Remender's making the next arc in Uncanny Avengers a Thor-centric arc in which Thor has to stop Apocalypse from killing the ancestors of his teammates, which sounds very intriguing. Normally, most writers are clueless when it comes to team books, so they resort to the standard "let the powerhouse take a beating to show off villain, then street-levelers pull off amazing feats to win the battle" formula. It's why Captain America, Spider-Man and Wolverine get the most shine in major team events, not Thor, Hulk or any other powerhouse.
yes its because of Christians. they are to jealous to see a real mighty god prevail on top, so they try to punk him in the comics.
this is by far, the worst and idiotic comment in history. my brain actually hurts after reading this.
that's what i do. :)
I'm not a fan, and it could be because he is written badly in other media. I haven't read him in comics. But over the years his appearances in cartoons, movies (like The Incredible Hulk Returns with Bixby), always make him seem like an extremely pompous, stupid, jackass. I would imagine a character this popular would be more multidimensional. If I got past the media versions and ultrafans, I might have liked him., Think I was poisoned.
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He's been used fairly well in the current Marvel films. His character has compassion, empathy and understanding. Heck, Loki brought an alien armada to conquer the Earth, and Thor was still trying to talk him out of it and show him support, also showing remorse for ever interfering in Midgard.
@dayvid3 said:
I'm not a fan, and it could be because he is written badly in other media. I haven't read him in comics. But over the years his appearances in cartoons, movies (like The Incredible Hulk Returns with Bixby), always make him seem like an extremely pompous, stupid, jackass. I would imagine a character this popular would be more multidimensional. If I got past the media versions and ultrafans, I might have liked him., Think I was poisoned.,
If your first exposure to Marvel Thor was Incredible Hulk Returns then you were poisoned. That version of Thor was totally unlike the comics version. Thor was originally more like the movie version. A tad reckless and arrogant that got him banished, but never so unlikeable. The movie version where he is still respectful of women and has manners is closer to the comics Thor.
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