Thor Odinson is the All-father of Asgard /God of Thunder, offspring of All-Father Odin & Elder-Goddess Gaea. Combining the powers of both realms makes him an elder-god hybrid and a being of no perceivable limits. Armed with his enchanted Uru hammer Mjolnir which helps him to channel his godly energies. The mightiest and the most beloved warrior in all of Asgard, a staunch ally for good and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse/omniverse. Thor is also a founding member of the Avengers.
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands.
adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium, secondary adamantium and adamantium alloy might be too.
well AOA isn't canon so its qute possible that that realitys version of Cyclops was just more powerful. like how ultimate cap is stronger than regular cap or how mangaverse Thor is way more powerful the 616 Thor.
I always had a problem with an unbreakable metal, like adamantium, I think its durability should be weighed on its thickness. I get it works with Wolverine because the metal bounded with his skeleton and bone is pretty strong stuff to begin with. But if you have a piece as thin as a piece of paper how much could it possible stop ya know.
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands. adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibraniumis too. "
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands. adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibraniumis too. "
Fixed. "
how durable actually is vibranium? since it should be less durable then any form of Adamantium.
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands. adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium, secondary adamantium and adamantium alloy might be too.
This is a good post. Though to my knowledge the Destroyer is also made from enchanted uru?
At any rate the topic's question is a controversial one. Adamantium got pretty abused back in the day to the point where Hulk was wrapping people up in it and Thor was breaking cables as shown. Busiek introduced the concept of primary vs secondardy adamantium in his Avengers run and for many people that retcons all previous instances where adamantium was seemingly damaged to being secondary adamantium or some kind of adamantium alloy.
However there are a couple of instances that might slip through the cracks:
Adamantium's first appearance as shown before. From Thor's dialogue it appears he may have dented it. Though the art doesn't really show anything.
Secret Wars. Hulk apparently damaged Ultron enough to allow the Wasp to slip inside. This was an Ultron created by Klaw with the Beyonder's power though.
Thor slammed Hulk into a pure adamantium statue of himself which Hulk then picked up. When he does so the art shows damage to the base of the statue though its unclear if the base is also pure adamantium.
Nul recently broke through an "adamantium net" (however that works) in Fear Itself.
Hulk recently drove Wolverines claws through his own skull (the question of adamantium damaging adamantium seems relatively open).
At any rate for some people if adamantium is seen being damaged on panel then its automatically not primary/pure adamantium.
"Uru is the most durable substance in Marvel is it not? "
not even close it becomes more durable when it absorbs more magic which is why Thor's hammer is so durable unenchanted uru is soft enough that thor can crush it into dust with his bare hands. adamantine, adamantium(primary and proto) and the material the destroyer is made out(unknown but surprisingly not Uru) of are all harder than uru. vibranium, secondary adamantium and adamantium alloy might be too.
This is a good post. Though to my knowledge the Destroyer is also made from enchanted uru?
At any rate the topic's question is a controversial one. Adamantium got pretty abused back in the day to the point where Hulk was wrapping people up in it and Thor was breaking cables as shown. Busiek introduced the concept of primary vs secondardy adamantium in his Avengers run and for many people that retcons all previous instances where adamantium was seemingly damaged to being secondary adamantium or some kind of adamantium alloy.
However there are a couple of instances that might slip through the cracks:
Adamantium's first appearance as shown before. From Thor's dialogue it appears he may have dented it. Though the art doesn't really show anything.
Secret Wars. Hulk apparently damaged Ultron enough to allow the Wasp to slip inside. This was an Ultron created by Klaw with the Beyonder's power though.
Thor slammed Hulk into a pure adamantium statue of himself which Hulk then picked up. When he does so the art shows damage to the base of the statue though its unclear if the base is also pure adamantium.
Nul recently broke through an "adamantium net" (however that works) in Fear Itself.
Hulk recently drove Wolverines claws through his own skull (the question of adamantium damaging adamantium seems relatively open).
At any rate for some people if adamantium is seen being damaged on panel then its automatically not primary/pure adamantium.
i'm pretty sure according to some very old comics or one of the Destroyers Bio's it is actually made out of a Matter that is unknown in origin and harder than uru, But it's definitely enchanted and i could be mistaken
@pyrogram: @powerherc: @mrdirector786: @god_spawn I know this is a huge bump, but I know it's better to reply to old topics already created than to create redundant threads. Here's my question:
1. Jonathan Hickman retconned it to where all instances of Primary Adamantium being altered in any way was actually Secondary Adamantium.
3. How is it, then, that Thor not using all of his strength shatters Secondary Adamantium, yet it other instance(where he uses ALL of his strength) he can barely dent it?
Questions like these are subject to the behest of the writer at the time and what type of effect he wants on his/her story. The top powerhouses should be able to damage adamantium. It wouldn't be their most impressive feats either.
3. How is it, then, that Thor not using all of his strength shatters Secondary Adamantium, yet it other instance(where he uses ALL of his strength) he can barely dent it?
The really explanation is ofcause that what he used to bent used to be pure adamantium and it has just been retro con. However even though I don't know if this has been clarified directly in the comics a logic assumption most be that there is different versions of secondary adamantium or at least difference in strength or pureness. The closer the adamantium is to being true adamantium the harder it is to destroy.
@haveatthee: So does that mean Thor is or isn't strong enough to dent adamantium?
I would rather people I respond to say "they don't know" rather than not answering at all.
I say "yes." Not just Thor either, but Hulk, Gladiator and Hercules should all be able to. This way if Wolverine was dumb enough to square off with one of these guys they could spank him without some idiotic healing-factor or unbreakable bones plot-device.
With Mjolnir he could. Without, hardly. He needed to Godblast wolverine and cap to do so in King Thor form.
The most comparible thing to it would be Wolverine, even though his skeleton is only covered in a layer of adamantium, thor has never been shown to bend it in his normal form and without Mjolnir.
@xxxddd: Based on Thor's various showings I think it's reasonable and safe to say he can bend, damage or break secondary adamantium using his bare hands or his hammer. I also think it's safe to say that he can't bend or break pure adamantium (yet) without being amped by the Odin-Power or being in his "Rune King Thor" form.
Examples of Thor breaking secondary adamantium relatively easily one time and later, suing supreme effort, being able to do much less damage is terrible writing inconsistency. This is exactly the type of thing Marvel editorial staff should prevent.
If Adamantium is so strong how do they make things out of it?
When Adamantium is first produced, it exists in its natural form-liquid. Scientists keep it at liquid form by keeping it at a high temperature.
To make objects scientists pour the liquid Adamantium into a molding chamber or inject it onto a solid object(like with Wolverine's bones), once the liquid cools Adamantium is indestructible.
If Adamantium is so strong how do they make things out of it?
When Adamantium is first produced, it exists in its natural form-liquid. Scientists keep it at liquid form by keeping it at a high temperature.
To make objects scientists pour the liquid Adamantium into a molding chamber or inject it onto a solid object(like with Wolverine's bones), once the liquid cools Adamantium is indestructible.
Didn't he bullrush Jane foster through a wall of plated with adamantium, and a vibranium core, mjolnil also dented adamantium in the same issue, and Jane with Thor's power weakening bent it with strain (Thor #3-4)
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