JUSTICE LEAGUE #12: Superman and Wonder Woman Hook Up

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Posted by gmanfromheck (41910 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is not married to Lois Lane in the New 52. A pairing often speculated on is Superman and Wonder Woman. This was a question I raised back in June 2011. Now it appears we may indeed find out how that will play out.

Entertainment Weekly's Top Shelf had the exclusive cover reveal for JUSTICE LEAGUE #12 showing the new man in Wonder Woman's life.

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Let the speculation begin. Previously the solicit did mention this:

A shocking last page that will have the world talking about this issue!

Apparently this isn't just a "one-issue stunt." Geoff Johns told EW:

This is the new status quo.

JUSTICE LEAGUE #12 goes on sale August 29 so we'll have to wait and see.

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#1 Posted by The Stegman (34890 posts) - - Show Bio

Ohhhhhh Superman is gettin' it!

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#2 Posted by Ulfghuld (39 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably one of those covers that has nothing to do with what is inside....

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#3 Posted by DerfelMacklin (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman/Lois Lane fandom meltdowns in 5..4..3..

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#4 Posted by DarthShap (880 posts) - - Show Bio

So...much...hate...

This...is...so...stupid...

I mean, come on DC! You know you are doing something wrong here! The characters are nothing alike and Superman is still madly in love with Lois!

This just reminds me of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and DK2. You know, the crappy ones.

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#5 Edited by UltimateSMfan (2207 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh Yeah!!!!!!!! Go Superman!!! was praying this wld happen at some point.

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#6 Posted by JohnnyGat (1592 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna miss the Supes Lois pairing as much as I'll miss the Kitty Piotr pairing.

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#7 Edited by SirSparkington (344 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve Trevor, welcome to the friendzone.

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#8 Posted by Big_Nasty (413 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman! Playa Playa of the Year.

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#9 Posted by lvenger (28194 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh no don't do this DC. Diana's still hung up about breaking up with Steve Trevor/him dying in the Villain's Journey. Besides they're better as friends, not lovers. Please don't do this DC.

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#10 Posted by darth_brendroid (1725 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure how I feel about this. It sorta feels too expected, too safe.

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#11 Posted by JohnnyWalker (825 posts) - - Show Bio

yes. i approve. superman get some of dat star spangled a**.

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#12 Posted by Duo_forbidden (1815 posts) - - Show Bio

( •_•)  Well, it would seem...

( •_•)>⌐■-■ ....that those two...

(⌐■_■) ... are tied up.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH­H

....Yeah, I know, that was corny.

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#13 Posted by The Stegman (34890 posts) - - Show Bio
@DarthShap:  
 

So...much...hate...

This...is...so...stupid...

I mean, come on DC! You know you are doing something wrong here! The characters are nothing alike and Superman is still madly in love with Lois!

This just reminds me of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and DK2. You know, the crappy ones. 


@Lvenger:  
 

Oh no don't do this DC. Diana's still hung up about breaking up with Steve Trevor/him dying in the Villain's Journey. Besides they're better as friends, not lovers. Please don't do this DC 


Calm down guys, don't judge the book by its cover, DC is notorious for printing Misleading covers, my guess is, either they're both under some kind of spell that makes them look like each other's lovers (Clark sees Diana as Lois, Diana sees Clark as Steve) or they are just kissing to test it out and realize they aren't meant for each other. I highly doubt DC will make them a couple.
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#14 Posted by Srsly_nerdy (13 posts) - - Show Bio

@Duo_forbidden said:

( •_•) Well, it would seem...

( •_•)>⌐■-■ ....that those two...

(⌐■_■) ... are tied up.

YEEEEEEAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH­H

....Yeah, I know, that was corny.

You are a god. a New God to be exact.

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#15 Posted by YoggSaron (812 posts) - - Show Bio

I give the relationship half an issue.

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#16 Posted by sethysquare (3965 posts) - - Show Bio

omg. yes. i love u dc. thank you thank you.

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#17 Posted by DarthShap (880 posts) - - Show Bio

The worst thing about this is that we have already read that story. It is called Action Comics #600, RIGHT AFTER THEIR FIRST REBOOT in 1988.

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And guess what? They realised they had nothing in common pretty fast and decided not to do that again.

Like so many things in this reboot, it has already been done and it was better the first time around.

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#18 Posted by VanAce (145 posts) - - Show Bio

Does this mean that Lois Lane and Steve Trevor will get together?

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#19 Posted by lvenger (28194 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman: I know and your explanation does sound like a reasonable one. Graves does seem to be using the spirits of the Justice League's loved ones against them and this could be a similar illusion. However, a last page that will have the world in shock does indicate that Superman and Wonder Woman hooking up would fit the bill.

@DarthShap said:

And guess what? They realised they had nothing in common pretty fast and decided not to do that again.

Like so many things in this reboot, it has already been done and it was better the first time around.

This is the only bit I have a problem with. They didn't have anything romantically in common but there are a lot of similarities between Superman and Wonder Woman that made their pre New 52 friendship so endearing. Didn't Clark and Diana go on just one date that was interrupted by Darkseid attacking the Olympian Gods?

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#20 Posted by DarthShap (880 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

@DarthShap:

So...much...hate...

This...is...so...stupid...

I mean, come on DC! You know you are doing something wrong here! The characters are nothing alike and Superman is still madly in love with Lois!

This just reminds me of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and DK2. You know, the crappy ones.


@Lvenger:


Oh no don't do this DC. Diana's still hung up about breaking up with Steve Trevor/him dying in the Villain's Journey. Besides they're better as friends, not lovers. Please don't do this DC

Calm down guys, don't judge the book by its cover, DC is notorious for printing Misleading covers, my guess is, either they're both under some kind of spell that makes them look like each other's lovers (Clark sees Diana as Lois, Diana sees Clark as Steve) or they are just kissing to test it out and realize they aren't meant for each other. I highly doubt DC will make them a couple.

I know that. Of course, it is not going to stick but it makes it even worst, especially if you have read Action #600.

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#21 Posted by sethysquare (3965 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: yawns. okay fine. u are a clois shipper. next.

Im a cliana shipper for life. eat me.

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#22 Posted by redmanta (580 posts) - - Show Bio

superman have been waiting for this more than 50 years

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#23 Posted by lvenger (28194 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@DarthShap: yawns. okay fine. u are a clois shipper. next.

Im a cliana shipper for life. eat me.

Come on sethy this isn't a good relationship. They're much better as friends than lovers.

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#24 Posted by Whirlnami_Heroes (14 posts) - - Show Bio

You Are Nothing to Me! (⌐□_□)=/̵͇̿/'̿ ̿ ̿ ̿

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#25 Posted by sethysquare (3965 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: I think everyone is pretty calm about it except clois shippers. but seriously yawn. we've seen clois for 20 years. give us something new.

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#26 Posted by Death Certificate (5720 posts) - - Show Bio

@DerfelMacklin said:

Superman/Lois Lane fandom meltdowns in 5..4..3..

@DarthShap said:

So...much...hate...

This...is...so...stupid...

I mean, come on DC! You know you are doing something wrong here! The characters are nothing alike and Superman is still madly in love with Lois!

This just reminds me of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and DK2. You know, the crappy ones.

@Lvenger said:

Oh no don't do this DC. Diana's still hung up about breaking up with Steve Trevor/him dying in the Villain's Journey. Besides they're better as friends, not lovers. Please don't do this DC.

LOL

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#27 Posted by lvenger (28194 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare: I'm not a Clois shipper. I want to see Clark with someone new (not Lucy Lane I might add) but a new interest. DC called this the New 52 but what they're doing isn't new at all.

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#28 Posted by ltbrd (704 posts) - - Show Bio

To be fair to DC at least showing a relationship between the two, even if it doesn't last, makes sense and doesn't hurt the characters in any way. The two getting together, and even having children (a son in Kingdom Come/The Kingdom and a daughter in The Dark Knight Strikes Again), has been done before and in some ways the two getting together, even briefly, fits into both the Superman series questioning whether Superman will ever find anyone to be with and the Justice League series showing the emotional turmoil Wonder Woman is going through in response to Steve Trevors kidnapping. So high run emotions and all, I think DC should get a little latitude to put these two together if only to showcase why they may not work out in the end.

The only real problem I have with this idea (if it actually occurs and isn't just a misleading cover) is that the Wonder Woman presented in Justice League bears little resemblance to the character in her own title. This second arc of JL still feels like its taking place in the past though its clearly in the present. Yet the JL WW looks, feels, and acts far younger than in her solo series that this type of "hook up" doesn't seem plausible given the personality of the older appearing WW. Of course team books and solo series have always had a few different interpretations of characters but for the most part the Justice League series has matched characters solo titles very well.......until the new 52. Much like I have issues with Grant Morrison writing Action Comics in a far different tone than what we get in Superman, Johns and Lee seem to have no leash on what they can do with the characters in Justice League even if it conflicts with the characters solo depictions. Just don't see Superman showing up in the pages of WW's solo title to continue this relationship (if it actually goes past one panel or even one issue) because Azzarello and Chang aren't going to want to put him in given the tone of the series right now.

This just again calls into question, do company writers and artists talk to each other? Does someone above them make sure the various titles connect? In the past their have been a few times I've thought each team just sits together in a little sound proof room and refuses to take visitors, but for the past few years DC has done a great job of maintaining consistency between titles and story arcs. Not with the new 52 however. Its been all over the place and each title seems to be going in an entirely different direction from the other.

A relationship between these two, even briefly, could work to grow their characters in the new DC universe and even bring back a deep friendship that old readers are used to seeing as a result of this. But I just don't trust the writing of DC right now in the new 52.

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#29 Posted by lvenger (28194 posts) - - Show Bio

@Death Certificate: You misinterpreted my response. I don't want to see Clark and Lois together (yet). I want to see Superman with a new love interest. Not with Lucy Lane in the Superman title or Maxima. Someone new who'll be able to kickstart an original Superman romance that isn't dictated by Clark's feelings for Lois.

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#30 Posted by DarthShap (880 posts) - - Show Bio

@sethysquare said:

@DarthShap: yawns. okay fine. u are a clois shipper. next.

Im a cliana shipper for life. eat me.

You are very very naive if you believe this cover.

Also, seeing that Kingdom Come was probably the only good comic book to ever make something acceptable out of that couple, and even then Lois was still Superman's true love, I just do not get why anyone would want to see those two together.

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#31 Edited by doordoor123 (3810 posts) - - Show Bio

 @DarthShap
@Lvenger
@YoggSaron
@The Stegman
@WanderingHands
 
DId you not read what Geoff Johns said in the article? I feel like that part is important. He said their "RELATIONSHIP" (not just hook up) would give a new status quo for the DCU. It is apparently going to affect the entire universe. 

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#32 Posted by fodigg (6238 posts) - - Show Bio

My guess on shocking last page: "I'm sorry, Diana, I'm gay."

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#33 Posted by Sleepbutnodream15 (605 posts) - - Show Bio

@JohnnyWalker said:

yes. i approve. superman get some of dat star spangled a**.

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#34 Posted by soduh2 (1050 posts) - - Show Bio

... Better than Batman/Wonder Woman. (gets attacked by JLU fans)

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#35 Posted by doordoor123 (3810 posts) - - Show Bio
@DarthShap said:

So...much...hate...

This...is...so...stupid...

I mean, come on DC! You know you are doing something wrong here! The characters are nothing alike and Superman is still madly in love with Lois!

This just reminds me of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and DK2. You know, the crappy ones.

Since when? Pre-New 52? He hasn't seemed that in love with her since the current Superman or Action run. 
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#36 Posted by lvenger (28194 posts) - - Show Bio

@doordoor123: I've just read the article. What else could it mean? It also said that some tragic event will cause Wonder Woman and Superman to seek solace in one another. Also Johns and Lee said that they welcome the 'watercooler chatter' Quite odd really. They should know that the wrath of spurned comic book fans is not a pleasant one.

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#37 Posted by Dernman (21611 posts) - - Show Bio

Woohoo! bow chicka wow wow  
I'm all for this. Clark should have a few relationships before Lois and Wonder Woman would be perfect as one of them.

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#38 Posted by Deranged Midget (18345 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not surprised nor do I really care.

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#39 Posted by Crash_Recovery (855 posts) - - Show Bio

It just makes sense to me. And it's not the first time that there's been romance/romantic tension between the two. Nothing shocking about this at all.

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#40 Posted by doordoor123 (3810 posts) - - Show Bio

My only problem with this is if Wonder Woman will be depicted as a weak woman. She has to be vulnerable if she's in a relationship and that might damage her character.

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#41 Posted by Death Certificate (5720 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@Death Certificate: You misinterpreted my response. I don't want to see Clark and Lois together (yet). I want to see Superman with a new love interest. Not with Lucy Lane in the Superman title or Maxima. Someone new who'll be able to kickstart an original Superman romance that isn't dictated by Clark's feelings for Lois.

I know, it's just that the blacklash happen so quick.

I'm not sure if DC cares to give superman a new love interest, but I wouldn't be against it.

Plus Maxima has been dead for since World's at War, I doubt DC cares about her

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#42 Posted by z3ro180 (8621 posts) - - Show Bio

This is interesting i kind of figured that this would happen in the new 52 at some pouint. Anyway i think this is a good move and hopefully this gets supes to move on and DC not makeing lois Supes main romtic interst.

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#43 Edited by Shotgun (912 posts) - - Show Bio

..I didn't want Diana to turn into Clark's love interest. Wth Geoff? You got me to ship SteveDiana and now this happens?

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#44 Posted by DarthShap (880 posts) - - Show Bio

@doordoor123 said:

@DarthShap said:

So...much...hate...

This...is...so...stupid...

I mean, come on DC! You know you are doing something wrong here! The characters are nothing alike and Superman is still madly in love with Lois!

This just reminds me of Frank Miller's All Star Batman and DK2. You know, the crappy ones.

Since when? Pre-New 52? He hasn't seemed that in love with her since the current Superman or Action run.

Did you forget Superman #1? He seemed pretty upset about the way Lois Lane was talking about him to her boyfriend.

Also, in Action #12, his fantasy, a "For the Man Who Has Everything" moment, which he literally called "a dream come true" was that he would marry Lois.

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#45 Posted by Planewalker (357 posts) - - Show Bio

Go Supes

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#46 Posted by JoseDRiveraTCR7 (1020 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't mind this relationship. I know Johns said that this relationship was the new status quo, but that probably means it will only last like two years. Personally, I never understood the appeal of Superman and WW being together. Just because they have similar powers and are the top male and female superheroes doesn't mean they have to be together.

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#47 Posted by lvenger (28194 posts) - - Show Bio

@DarthShap: Oh so that's what happens in Action Comics 12? Haven't read it yet. But I hoped Superman would move on to a new love interest in the New 52. It sounds strange and maybe even copying Marvel but I want Superman to have a Gwen Stacy. Someone who comes to mean a lot to him only to get snatched away.

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#48 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1701 posts) - - Show Bio

Well done, DC. Another old trick of yours in a New universe.

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#49 Edited by BushidoBlack (117 posts) - - Show Bio

No type of build up at all. They really haven't had much reaction with each other either.

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#50 Posted by Dernman (21611 posts) - - Show Bio

Diark  or Clana is born. :p

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