Born to an American photo journalist and Kenyan princess, Ororo Munroe is one of the most recognizabe superheroines in the Marvel Universe. Using her unique ability to see and manipulate natural energy patterns of the universe to summon any type of weather phenomenon she desires in the blink of an eye, she is called Storm.
@Avenging-X-Bolt: ITs current WW so yes it does count.
no.no it doesnt. the battle between Diana and Ororo about took place over a decade ago where Wonder Woman was near light-speed movement and the like. its absolute freakin bull that Storm could take her out with a simple lightning bolt
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: Lol I did an essay on Boy's toys versus Girl's toys and that was something I found incredibly alarming that really opened my eyes to what society teaches boys and girls how they should behave. I agree female characters should be given as much focus as the men especially with the industry reaching out in so many knew ways. Hell with Disney back Marvel they have 0 excuses on not giving Marvel's ladies a girls toy line or trying to promote the genre.
Yeah, I've noticed some things like that. Like toy cooking equipment being marketed only for girls, and things like that.
Disneys girls toys are all quite princessy though aren't they? I'd hope that they don't make the female characters merch too girly, if you know what I mean.
No, it's because they are both strong independent women.
1) She is not a nobody. She has appeared in various forms of media. The only reason Storm has appeared so much on TV is due to the fact that she is apart of the X-men. Neither are A-List though. She also currently has her own ongoing.
2) Okay?
3) Okay, sure, but once again, it's only due to her being in the X-men.
4)
1. sorry but even Jubilee, Psylocke, and all other female x-men members didn't have as much as exposure as Storm has. so don't say because Storm is part of the x-men that's why she appeared so much on all forms of media. Storm just is the preferred character to show up on most of them cos she's popular and easily recognizable and her powers are also interesting.
Jean Grey and Rogue came pretty close though. Jean Grey was only 0.25 points behind Storm, so it's not like Storm blew everyone else out of the water.
Based on his research. The only research which I would agree with him was the movie part.
But on video games: source: giantbomb.com, as of this month february, 2013
Storm: 42
Jean Grey: 27
Rogue: 21
lets's add:
Catwoman: 17
Wonder Woman: 11
In comic appearances: as of this month February, 2013
Storm (first appearance: May 1975) : 4,940
Jean Grey (first appearance: September, 1963) 3,977
Rogue (first appearance: August 1981) 3,407
Wonder Woman: (first appearance: December 1941) 4,140
Catwoman: (first appearance: April, 1940) 1,273
and on television. clearly, they forgot Storm showing up in spider-man and shi amazing friends, amazing spider-man on secret wars episode, Black panther cartoon series and super hero squad.
@Avenging-X-Bolt: ITs current WW so yes it does count.
no.no it doesnt. the battle between Diana and Ororo about took place over a decade ago where Wonder Woman was near light-speed movement and the like. its absolute freakin bull that Storm could take her out with a simple lightning bolt
First off Diana has always has a weakness for lightning bolts. Secondly, storm can and has shot of several bolts of lightning in many directions before so unless she can phase like the Martian the Manhunter then she can be hit. She has been tagged by slower moving targets.
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: Lol I did an essay on Boy's toys versus Girl's toys and that was something I found incredibly alarming that really opened my eyes to what society teaches boys and girls how they should behave. I agree female characters should be given as much focus as the men especially with the industry reaching out in so many knew ways. Hell with Disney back Marvel they have 0 excuses on not giving Marvel's ladies a girls toy line or trying to promote the genre.
Yeah, I've noticed some things like that. Like toy cooking equipment being marketed only for girls, and things like that.
Disneys girls toys are all quite princessy though aren't they? I'd hope that they don't make the female characters merch too girly, if you know what I mean.
Lol Pink Captain Marvel purses, and Purple Storm ones XD. I agree they still need to be superheros not just princesses in spandex.
No, it's because they are both strong independent women.
1) She is not a nobody. She has appeared in various forms of media. The only reason Storm has appeared so much on TV is due to the fact that she is apart of the X-men. Neither are A-List though. She also currently has her own ongoing.
2) Okay?
3) Okay, sure, but once again, it's only due to her being in the X-men.
4)
1. sorry but even Jubilee, Psylocke, and all other female x-men members didn't have as much as exposure as Storm has. so don't say because Storm is part of the x-men that's why she appeared so much on all forms of media. Storm just is the preferred character to show up on most of them cos she's popular and easily recognizable and her powers are also interesting.
Jean Grey and Rogue came pretty close though. Jean Grey was only 0.25 points behind Storm, so it's not like Storm blew everyone else out of the water.
Based on his research. The only research which I would agree with him was the movie part.
But on video games: source: giantbomb.com, as of this month february, 2013
Storm: 42
Jean Grey: 27
Rogue: 21
lets's add:
Catwoman: 17
Wonder Woman: 11
In comic appearances: as of this month February, 2013
Storm (first appearance: May 1975) : 4,940
Jean Grey (first appearance: September, 1963) 3,977
Rogue (first appearance: August 1981) 3,407
Wonder Woman: (first appearance: December 1941) 4,140
Catwoman: (first appearance: April, 1940) 1,273
and on television. clearly, they forgot Storm showing up in spider-man and shi amazing friends, amazing spider-man on secret wars episode, Black panther cartoon series and super hero squad.
so it's not pretty close
I was talking about the points system put forward by the person who wrote the article. I thought that was the point of this thread.
Is you're reason for why she's "Marvels' Wonder Woman" just that she's appeared in the most things?
No, it's because they are both strong independent women.
1) She is not a nobody. She has appeared in various forms of media. The only reason Storm has appeared so much on TV is due to the fact that she is apart of the X-men. Neither are A-List though. She also currently has her own ongoing.
2) Okay?
3) Okay, sure, but once again, it's only due to her being in the X-men.
4)
1. sorry but even Jubilee, Psylocke, and all other female x-men members didn't have as much as exposure as Storm has. so don't say because Storm is part of the x-men that's why she appeared so much on all forms of media. Storm just is the preferred character to show up on most of them cos she's popular and easily recognizable and her powers are also interesting.
Jean Grey and Rogue came pretty close though. Jean Grey was only 0.25 points behind Storm, so it's not like Storm blew everyone else out of the water.
Based on his research. The only research which I would agree with him was the movie part.
But on video games: source: giantbomb.com, as of this month february, 2013
Storm: 42
Jean Grey: 27
Rogue: 21
lets's add:
Catwoman: 17
Wonder Woman: 11
In comic appearances: as of this month February, 2013
Storm (first appearance: May 1975) : 4,940
Jean Grey (first appearance: September, 1963) 3,977
Rogue (first appearance: August 1981) 3,407
Wonder Woman: (first appearance: December 1941) 4,140
Catwoman: (first appearance: April, 1940) 1,273
and on television. clearly, they forgot Storm showing up in spider-man and shi amazing friends, amazing spider-man on secret wars episode, Black panther cartoon series and super hero squad.
so it's not pretty close
I was talking about the points system put forward by the person who wrote the article. I thought that was the point of this thread.
Is you're reason for why she's "Marvels' Wonder Woman" just that she's appeared in the most things?
not only that of course but frequent appearances on all forms of media really matters
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: Lol I did an essay on Boy's toys versus Girl's toys and that was something I found incredibly alarming that really opened my eyes to what society teaches boys and girls how they should behave. I agree female characters should be given as much focus as the men especially with the industry reaching out in so many knew ways. Hell with Disney back Marvel they have 0 excuses on not giving Marvel's ladies a girls toy line or trying to promote the genre.
Yeah, I've noticed some things like that. Like toy cooking equipment being marketed only for girls, and things like that.
Disneys girls toys are all quite princessy though aren't they? I'd hope that they don't make the female characters merch too girly, if you know what I mean.
Lol Pink Captain Marvel purses, and Purple Storm ones XD. I agree they still need to be superheros not just princesses in spandex.
Purses would be alright, as long as the colour schemes matched the character. I think you do get superhero wallets.
But yeah, princesses in spandex would be a mistake. I'll bet a lot of people would buy it though.
No, it's because they are both strong independent women.
1) She is not a nobody. She has appeared in various forms of media. The only reason Storm has appeared so much on TV is due to the fact that she is apart of the X-men. Neither are A-List though. She also currently has her own ongoing.
2) Okay?
3) Okay, sure, but once again, it's only due to her being in the X-men.
4)
1. sorry but even Jubilee, Psylocke, and all other female x-men members didn't have as much as exposure as Storm has. so don't say because Storm is part of the x-men that's why she appeared so much on all forms of media. Storm just is the preferred character to show up on most of them cos she's popular and easily recognizable and her powers are also interesting.
Jean Grey and Rogue came pretty close though. Jean Grey was only 0.25 points behind Storm, so it's not like Storm blew everyone else out of the water.
Based on his research. The only research which I would agree with him was the movie part.
But on video games: source: giantbomb.com, as of this month february, 2013
Storm: 42
Jean Grey: 27
Rogue: 21
lets's add:
Catwoman: 17
Wonder Woman: 11
In comic appearances: as of this month February, 2013
Storm (first appearance: May 1975) : 4,940
Jean Grey (first appearance: September, 1963) 3,977
Rogue (first appearance: August 1981) 3,407
Wonder Woman: (first appearance: December 1941) 4,140
Catwoman: (first appearance: April, 1940) 1,273
and on television. clearly, they forgot Storm showing up in spider-man and shi amazing friends, amazing spider-man on secret wars episode, Black panther cartoon series and super hero squad.
so it's not pretty close
I was talking about the points system put forward by the person who wrote the article. I thought that was the point of this thread.
Is you're reason for why she's "Marvels' Wonder Woman" just that she's appeared in the most things?
not only that of course but frequent appearances on all forms of media really matters
the writer emphasized WW's almost absence on movies
Ms. Marvel should be Marvels Wonder Woman. Makes a lot more sense.
this
Yea why do you think it makes more sense that Ms. Marvel should be Marvel's Wonder Woman? I mean it would seem that by her 3rd on-going Marvel would want this as well, but curious why this makes sense when she doesn't have as nearly of the exposure as Ororo does.
Because she's currently co leading the Avengers, has her own ongoing, and also has appeared in various forms of media.
Storm appears in various forms of media because she is apart of the X-men, otherwise she wouldn't.
So.. basically she is relevant in terms of her connections to the Avengers, which if Storm is to be judged by the fact she is with the Xmen its common knowledge that the xmen are vastly more popular than the avengers so Storm even excels beyond ms. marvel here as well. And what various forms of media has she appeared in that makes her more deserving than Storm. Storm has been featured in more movies, games, comics, toys, even has her own theme park ride.
So since STorm is in the Xmen and she is popular because of this, wouldn't all the xmen be equally as popular based on that logic. And why isnt this same logic true for Ms. marvel who is only relevant due to her ties to the Avengers? Its the same difference. The only thing is between the two is that Ms. Marvel has an on-going, which the previous two had mediocre if not sub-mediocre success. Storm is leaps and bounds beyond Ms. Marvel in terms of exposure and popularity and this article indicates perfectly might I add just why that is the case. The proof is in the numbers..
No, it's because they are both strong independent women.
1) She is not a nobody. She has appeared in various forms of media. The only reason Storm has appeared so much on TV is due to the fact that she is apart of the X-men. Neither are A-List though. She also currently has her own ongoing.
2) Okay?
3) Okay, sure, but once again, it's only due to her being in the X-men.
4)
1. sorry but even Jubilee, Psylocke, and all other female x-men members didn't have as much as exposure as Storm has. so don't say because Storm is part of the x-men that's why she appeared so much on all forms of media. Storm just is the preferred character to show up on most of them cos she's popular and easily recognizable and her powers are also interesting.
Jean Grey and Rogue came pretty close though. Jean Grey was only 0.25 points behind Storm, so it's not like Storm blew everyone else out of the water.
Based on his research. The only research which I would agree with him was the movie part.
But on video games: source: giantbomb.com, as of this month february, 2013
Storm: 42
Jean Grey: 27
Rogue: 21
lets's add:
Catwoman: 17
Wonder Woman: 11
In comic appearances: as of this month February, 2013
Storm (first appearance: May 1975) : 4,940
Jean Grey (first appearance: September, 1963) 3,977
Rogue (first appearance: August 1981) 3,407
Wonder Woman: (first appearance: December 1941) 4,140
Catwoman: (first appearance: April, 1940) 1,273
and on television. clearly, they forgot Storm showing up in spider-man and shi amazing friends, amazing spider-man on secret wars episode, Black panther cartoon series and super hero squad.
so it's not pretty close
I was talking about the points system put forward by the person who wrote the article. I thought that was the point of this thread.
Is you're reason for why she's "Marvels' Wonder Woman" just that she's appeared in the most things?
not only that of course but frequent appearances on all forms of media really matters
If Storm's had so many appearances, and yet isn't nearly as iconic as Wonder Woman, can she really be called Marvels' Wonder Woman?
I don't know if Marvel really even has what you could call their own Wonder Woman.
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: It probably would. Might not be a bad idea if they wanted to bait in doll collectors, but having something like the classic covers would be ideal
Doll like but fully possible "my toy geek is showing hard"
@Avenging-X-Bolt: ITs current WW so yes it does count.
no.no it doesnt. the battle between Diana and Ororo about took place over a decade ago where Wonder Woman was near light-speed movement and the like. its absolute freakin bull that Storm could take her out with a simple lightning bolt
First off Diana has always has a weakness for lightning bolts.
proof?
Secondly, storm can and has shot of several bolts of lightning in many directions before so unless she can phase like the Martian the Manhunter then she can be hit. She has been tagged by slower moving targets.
One thing to be hit, another to go down like a punk with one shot. and its Martian Manhunter. does the phrase "Martian The Manhunter make any sense at all"
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: It probably would. Might not be a bad idea if they wanted to bait in doll collectors, but having something like the classic covers would be ideal
Doll like but fully possible "my toy geek is showing hard"
I've seen them before, and they look pretty good. I think they did male characters in the same format.
No, it's because they are both strong independent women.
1) She is not a nobody. She has appeared in various forms of media. The only reason Storm has appeared so much on TV is due to the fact that she is apart of the X-men. Neither are A-List though. She also currently has her own ongoing.
2) Okay?
3) Okay, sure, but once again, it's only due to her being in the X-men.
4)
1. sorry but even Jubilee, Psylocke, and all other female x-men members didn't have as much as exposure as Storm has. so don't say because Storm is part of the x-men that's why she appeared so much on all forms of media. Storm just is the preferred character to show up on most of them cos she's popular and easily recognizable and her powers are also interesting.
Jean Grey and Rogue came pretty close though. Jean Grey was only 0.25 points behind Storm, so it's not like Storm blew everyone else out of the water.
Based on his research. The only research which I would agree with him was the movie part.
But on video games: source: giantbomb.com, as of this month february, 2013
Storm: 42
Jean Grey: 27
Rogue: 21
lets's add:
Catwoman: 17
Wonder Woman: 11
In comic appearances: as of this month February, 2013
Storm (first appearance: May 1975) : 4,940
Jean Grey (first appearance: September, 1963) 3,977
Rogue (first appearance: August 1981) 3,407
Wonder Woman: (first appearance: December 1941) 4,140
Catwoman: (first appearance: April, 1940) 1,273
and on television. clearly, they forgot Storm showing up in spider-man and shi amazing friends, amazing spider-man on secret wars episode, Black panther cartoon series and super hero squad.
so it's not pretty close
I was talking about the points system put forward by the person who wrote the article. I thought that was the point of this thread.
Is you're reason for why she's "Marvels' Wonder Woman" just that she's appeared in the most things?
not only that of course but frequent appearances on all forms of media really matters
If Storm's had so many appearances, and yet isn't nearly as iconic as Wonder Woman, can she really be called Marvels' Wonder Woman?
I don't know if Marvel really even has what you could call their own Wonder Woman.
the fact is, she's been always tagged to the 2 of the msot popular comic characters; Superman and Batman and WW has her own ongoing but was defeated by Storm who wasn't been given much focus. what more if she's been focused, the gap between them would have been greater.
@Avenging-X-Bolt: ITs current WW so yes it does count.
no.no it doesnt. the battle between Diana and Ororo about took place over a decade ago where Wonder Woman was near light-speed movement and the like. its absolute freakin bull that Storm could take her out with a simple lightning bolt
First off Diana has always has a weakness for lightning bolts.
proof?
Secondly, storm can and has shot of several bolts of lightning in many directions before so unless she can phase like the Martian the Manhunter then she can be hit. She has been tagged by slower moving targets.
One thing to be hit, another to go down like a punk with one shot. and its Martian Manhunter. does the phrase "Martian The Manhunter make any sense at all"
@Avenging-X-Bolt: ITs current WW so yes it does count.
no.no it doesnt. the battle between Diana and Ororo about took place over a decade ago where Wonder Woman was near light-speed movement and the like. its absolute freakin bull that Storm could take her out with a simple lightning bolt
First off Diana has always has a weakness for lightning bolts.
proof?
Secondly, storm can and has shot of several bolts of lightning in many directions before so unless she can phase like the Martian the Manhunter then she can be hit. She has been tagged by slower moving targets.
One thing to be hit, another to go down like a punk with one shot. and its Martian Manhunter. does the phrase "Martian The Manhunter make any sense at all"
marvel vs dc crossover
not admissable. give me something from before or outside of it
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: It probably would. Might not be a bad idea if they wanted to bait in doll collectors, but having something like the classic covers would be ideal
Doll like but fully possible "my toy geek is showing hard"
I've seen them before, and they look pretty good. I think they did male characters in the same format.
Yeah they had a great cast for it even though some of the head molds were fugly. I have Captain America, Hawkeye, and Storm.
No, it's because they are both strong independent women.
1) She is not a nobody. She has appeared in various forms of media. The only reason Storm has appeared so much on TV is due to the fact that she is apart of the X-men. Neither are A-List though. She also currently has her own ongoing.
2) Okay?
3) Okay, sure, but once again, it's only due to her being in the X-men.
4)
1. sorry but even Jubilee, Psylocke, and all other female x-men members didn't have as much as exposure as Storm has. so don't say because Storm is part of the x-men that's why she appeared so much on all forms of media. Storm just is the preferred character to show up on most of them cos she's popular and easily recognizable and her powers are also interesting.
Jean Grey and Rogue came pretty close though. Jean Grey was only 0.25 points behind Storm, so it's not like Storm blew everyone else out of the water.
Based on his research. The only research which I would agree with him was the movie part.
But on video games: source: giantbomb.com, as of this month february, 2013
Storm: 42
Jean Grey: 27
Rogue: 21
lets's add:
Catwoman: 17
Wonder Woman: 11
In comic appearances: as of this month February, 2013
Storm (first appearance: May 1975) : 4,940
Jean Grey (first appearance: September, 1963) 3,977
Rogue (first appearance: August 1981) 3,407
Wonder Woman: (first appearance: December 1941) 4,140
Catwoman: (first appearance: April, 1940) 1,273
and on television. clearly, they forgot Storm showing up in spider-man and shi amazing friends, amazing spider-man on secret wars episode, Black panther cartoon series and super hero squad.
so it's not pretty close
I was talking about the points system put forward by the person who wrote the article. I thought that was the point of this thread.
Is you're reason for why she's "Marvels' Wonder Woman" just that she's appeared in the most things?
not only that of course but frequent appearances on all forms of media really matters
If Storm's had so many appearances, and yet isn't nearly as iconic as Wonder Woman, can she really be called Marvels' Wonder Woman?
I don't know if Marvel really even has what you could call their own Wonder Woman.
the fact is, she's been always tagged to the 2 of the msot popular comic characters; Superman and Batman and WW has her own ongoing but was defeated by Storm who wasn't been given much focus. what more if she's been focused, the gap between them would have been greater.
Tagged to Superman and Batman? I don't know what you mean by that.
More appearances doesn't make her a better or more iconic character.
@Avenging-X-Bolt: ITs current WW so yes it does count.
no.no it doesnt. the battle between Diana and Ororo about took place over a decade ago where Wonder Woman was near light-speed movement and the like. its absolute freakin bull that Storm could take her out with a simple lightning bolt
First off Diana has always has a weakness for lightning bolts.
proof?
Secondly, storm can and has shot of several bolts of lightning in many directions before so unless she can phase like the Martian the Manhunter then she can be hit. She has been tagged by slower moving targets.
One thing to be hit, another to go down like a punk with one shot. and its Martian Manhunter. does the phrase "Martian The Manhunter make any sense at all"
Makes as much sense as avenging bolt. Moving on.. Sure want proof go through these pages:
well it shouldn't... the autthor of the thread never said that Storm was Marvel's Wonder Woman. They investigate which Marvel lady would be close to that role, and it was through great logic proven that it was Storm. The numbers don't lie people.
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: It probably would. Might not be a bad idea if they wanted to bait in doll collectors, but having something like the classic covers would be ideal
Doll like but fully possible "my toy geek is showing hard"
I've seen them before, and they look pretty good. I think they did male characters in the same format.
Yeah they had a great cast for it even though some of the head molds were fugly. I have Captain America, Hawkeye, and Storm.
It seems that they never made a Ms. Marvel one though. Ah well.
This is turning into the "Is Storm A-list thread".....
Does that happen often? Like, a thread slowly becoming a duplicate thred?
we're not talking about if she's alist or not.
no but some of the same reasons as to why she is equivalent to Wonder Woman are the same reasons people used there.
so lets stop talking about that... lets just point to the great reasons that were shown in the article. again the numbers don't lie.. i thought it was a fair and balanced approach
@Avenging-X-Bolt: ITs current WW so yes it does count.
no.no it doesnt. the battle between Diana and Ororo about took place over a decade ago where Wonder Woman was near light-speed movement and the like. its absolute freakin bull that Storm could take her out with a simple lightning bolt
First off Diana has always has a weakness for lightning bolts.
proof?
Secondly, storm can and has shot of several bolts of lightning in many directions before so unless she can phase like the Martian the Manhunter then she can be hit. She has been tagged by slower moving targets.
One thing to be hit, another to go down like a punk with one shot. and its Martian Manhunter. does the phrase "Martian The Manhunter make any sense at all"
Makes as much sense as avenging bolt.
It actually makes perfect sense. "Martian The Manhunter doesn't. unless your talking about a manhunter named martian"
Moving on.. Sure want proof go through these pages:
Lightning hurts WW and that was pre and post 52... just like she has weakness for sharp objects. She is not invulnerable.
it hurt her but it sure as hell didnt take her out in one strike. hell Disciple only took her out by turning her back into clay via magic. still plenty of opportunity for Diana to f*&^ Ororo up.
lets just point to the great reasons that were shown in the article. again the numbers don't lie.. i thought it was a fair and balanced approach
This an numbers based argument.
i agree it is subjective to what one deams "more" appropriate, but I am sure you can agree the approach was pretty fair, thought out, and logical right?
that is what i value the logic in it. you may disagree but when someone can formulate a thought beyone an opinion and point to qualitative reason why then i appreciate it a lot more
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: Ms. M was kind of a no name that Rogue all, but replaced. When she came back during House of M Marvel really pushed for her to be a big name character. She got her own series "didn't last long", she stood next to Marvel's biggest heroes and was never written to be lesser than them, she came with alot a great story potential let off from the 80's, and she and Jessica were developed side by side making both characters stronger. Compared to where she was Carol has grown leaps and bounds. In short she's come along way from being the female counter part of a character who is more famous for being dead than living.
@Avenging-X-Bolt: Storm had hit WW several times before she was KOd.. and she got zapped a couple times by OM before she was out too and it look to be continuous stream of lightning.. so.. again.. she can be taken out as shown by the scans which was my only point aside from her being tagged by slower moving opponents.
@butterflykyss: You know that's not gonna happen, Carol will be lucky to get in the Avengers movie. Storm on the other hand should be in every legit Xmen movie. She's is and always will be an integral part of the Xmen in my book.
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: Ms. M was kind of a no name that Rogue all, but replaced. When she came back during House of M Marvel really pushed for her to be a big name character. She got her own series "didn't last long", she stood next to Marvel's biggest heroes and was never written to be lesser than them, she came with alot a great story potential let off from the 80's, and she and Jessica were developed side by side making both characters stronger. Compared to where she was Carol has grown leaps and bounds. In short she's come along way from being the female counter part of a character who is more famous for being dead than living.
Ah. I knew most of that. :P
50 Issues doesn't seem so bad. More than her previous series anyway.
how credible is this.. i mean i hear nothing but bad things about bleedingcool
But if Halle returns as Storm in this movie this will be the 4th movie Storm has been featured in and still waiting on that number for Ms. Marvel..
So Storm will have been in four films, but Marvel doesn't believe in her enough to give her a solo title...?
I don't know what Marvel thinks in regards to why they haven't given her a solo title. Now if you are asking my opinion, I don't believe that Marvel as a company feel that they can market a black and female character to a market heavily saturated with buyers who tend to be white and male. By all indication that would seem to be true. But look at what Marvel has allowed. 1.) They have given Ms. Marvel3 ongoings even though the first wto had mediocre sales, yet one of their most recognizable and iconic characters hasn't been given that same shot. 2.) They have Gambit a shot at an ongoing that isn't doing too well now; however, a character who was able to go toe to toe against DC's leading lady and beat her in essentially a popularity contest never got a chance to have her own solo title. To me the article was dead on when they stated it was a shame Storm hasn't gotten one. She deserves one based on all accounts of her presence in and out of the comics. So yes Storm will potentially be in four films, in all if not most X-men and non-Xmen related cartoons, in most X-men themed and non-xmen themed games, having her own ride yet she doesn't have a solo title.
This is turning into the "Is Storm A-list thread".....
Does that happen often? Like, a thread slowly becoming a duplicate thred?
With Storm? All the time.
@butterflykyss said:
i agree it is subjective to what one deams "more" appropriate, but I am sure you can agree the approach was pretty fair, thought out, and logical right?
that is what i value the logic in it. you may disagree but when someone can formulate a thought beyone an opinion and point to qualitative reason why then i appreciate it a lot more
The approach isn't fair because Wonder Woman stands for more to DC than numbers can make sense of. The way this is broken down takes certain numbers and applies them FALSELY to what importance those characters have to a product or to Marvel as a whole.
@Avenging-X-Bolt: Storm had hit WW several times before she was KOd.. and she got zapped a couple times by OM before she was out too and it look to be continuous stream of lightning.. so.. again.. she can be taken out as shown by the scans which was my only point aside from her being tagged by slower moving opponents.
i had forgotten. very well, i concede due to lack of evidence to the contrary.
how credible is this.. i mean i hear nothing but bad things about bleedingcool
But if Halle returns as Storm in this movie this will be the 4th movie Storm has been featured in and still waiting on that number for Ms. Marvel..
So Storm will have been in four films, but Marvel doesn't believe in her enough to give her a solo title...?
Carol Danvers aka Ms. Marvel aka Captain Marvel has had several titles over the years, and never been cast in movies. I',m not trying to make a career comparison on C. Danvers and Storm's career, I'm comparing Wonder Womans Power set to C.Danvers which is why I said C. Danvers is Marvels Wonder Woman.
@V_Scarlotte_Rose: Ms. M was kind of a no name that Rogue all, but replaced. When she came back during House of M Marvel really pushed for her to be a big name character. She got her own series "didn't last long", she stood next to Marvel's biggest heroes and was never written to be lesser than them, she came with alot a great story potential let off from the 80's, and she and Jessica were developed side by side making both characters stronger. Compared to where she was Carol has grown leaps and bounds. In short she's come along way from being the female counter part of a character who is more famous for being dead than living.
Ah. I knew most of that. :P
50 Issues doesn't seem so bad. More than her previous series anyway.
I think her success in that run is what cemented Marvel's wanting to promote her to be their number one. Not many female counter parts overshadow the male so she has an edge that She Hulk doesn't "but Red She Hulk might", Storm is risky and Marvel knows it. If they can't keep a black males solo going they don't figure they could keep a black woman's. Black Widow under the right team and with the right concept I think could hold a successful solo too. Rogue is a maybe in my eyes too. Having her be a mutant investigator could be interesting with her power set. Anyway power to Carol I hope she does well and Marvel catches up to DC's women one day.
@butterflykyss: You know that's not gonna happen, Carol will be lucky to get in the Avengers movie. Storm on the other hand should be in every legit Xmen movie. She's is and always will be an integral part of the Xmen in my book.
You don't think Carol will get a chance to be in the Avengers movie? I would think she might make an appearance in the second one at least. You make an interesting point though. if Carol was so essential to the team why wasn't she featured in their first movie. Storm sure as heck has been featured in most of the X-films aside from the wolverine and first class.
i agree it is subjective to what one deams "more" appropriate, but I am sure you can agree the approach was pretty fair, thought out, and logical right?
that is what i value the logic in it. you may disagree but when someone can formulate a thought beyone an opinion and point to qualitative reason why then i appreciate it a lot more
The approach isn't fair because Wonder Woman stands for more to DC than numbers can make sense of. The way this is broken down takes certain numbers and applies them FALSELY to what importance those characters have to a product or to Marvel as a whole.
Well I don't think the author intended their work to be a infallible science. Again, people may weigh having an on-going more important than being featured in a movie. However, television and movies, and even video games for that matter reach people a lot more then comics do and often times it is through these mediums that people even initially start reading the comics. So I disagree when you said it falsely represents what is important to them, because in the grand scheme all of these mediums bring these companies revenue which is the bottom line.
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