Not at all. I can back my argument just fine but considering my history with him I have no interest. Haave you not noticed the difference in the way I've talked to you and him on the same subject despite the pot shots you've taken against me. Did I not agree to let it rest with you and both believing different things?

He has several warning and a ban on him already because of past encounters with me where he couldn't control himself and name calling. THen him trying to lay the blame on me for it. Even going so far as to make an alt to confront me to get around the ban. I have no interest in a civilized discussion with him because of it and told him so. He doesn't take the hint because he can't control himself nor take an opinion other than his. Hell I''ve outright told him that I have no interest in interacting with him yet he still persists. He doesn't know how to have one even if I was. I tried in the past with him and am not going to again.. Why in the world he thinks I would be interesting in rehashing the same subject with him again that started the mess I don't know. Do you really think he deserves better? Seriously?

Don't make assumption on things when you don't have all the facts. You're way off base on this.

Lol persisting in begging for the attention of someone not interested and pointing out typos to save face because your arguments fail. .I can see that happening to you in real life so much that people avoid you. Must be why you come on comicvine to harass people who have no interest in you with replies. :p

Ah the love.

Hoping that it's either Doctor Octopus or Silver Sable.

@dernman: WTF? I have no idea what you are insinuating. I have neither been banned from ComicVine or made an sort of alt account. Please, just admit your defeat in this debate, or stop replying to my comments. I have no interest in enlightening the obtuse.

That's it boy. Beg. Come on Beg. yeah that's a good boy. Now here's your treat.

@dernman: That might work on dogs like you, but not on me.

Shuri,she is the only Black Panther I liked.

No more treats for you boy. No matter how much you beg. You need obedience school.

@dernman: Blackspidey2099 is saying that he was not banned. If that is true then I am right.

Spider-Ock

@dernman: You need to go to preschool, dude.

Isn't Kaine alive?

@goonage Yes he is alive.

You need stop begging for my attention. Have some self respect.

I'm not lying. Even If I'm mistaken about the ban it still doesn't change the fact that he got several warning from Renchamp for direct name calling. . You can ask him if you don't believe me. It also doesn't change the alt thing or the still hounding me when I told him I don't want any interaction because of our history.

So no it doesn't change anything. Hell just the fact I never wanted to interact with him considering our bad history is enough. He was never going to get a anything but what he's getting from me the moment I noticed it was him doing the reply. Even if he agreed and had a change of heart I would have just ignored him instead of replying. So you point doesn't really make much sense.

This! This so much.

I agree with this list with the exception of Silver Sable. I think she's pretty cool.

As it stands, here are the numbers of the poll with 37 votes

• Gwen Stacy: 1 Vote
• Uncle Ben: 2 Votes
• Silver Sable: 4 Votes
• Ben Reilly: 3 Votes
• Kaine: 10 Votes
• Mattie Franklin: 1 Vote
• Madame Web (The Original): 1 Vote
• Doctor Octopus: 6 Votes
• Other: 9 Votes

She's my choice as well, but not only for that. I feel she would be a good replacement for Mary Jane as Peters' love interest if Marvel is determined to keep them apart.

Why?

Every time I've read an issue where they worked together I always got the sense that unlike other heroes who would see him as a menace, Sable actually respected him as a hero, and knew he was not what other people thought he was, granted she can sometimes be cold towards him when it comes to business or her country, but you can't deny that there was always a clear chemistry between them and I would like to think that if he wasn't with Mary Jane, something would have happened, like what happened in the what if issue where they got married. and while I I'm still erked by what Slott did to her at the end of Ends of the Earth arc, I will give Slott "some" praise for the interaction between her and Peter during and just before the arc, plus the fact she confessed her attraction to him and implication she wanted to take it further, but at the time he was trying to get back with Mary Jane.

@animehunter: I agree. A relationship between Spidey and Sable would be pretty unique. And personally, I would very much prefer Sable over Mary Jane.

I dunno...I feel being with Sable would diminish Peter further as an everyman, not to mention Sable's job as a mercenary can lead to conflict with his own ideologies (in fact, Felicia being involved with mercenaries is what drove him towards marriage to MJ in the first place), and if people had a problem with the "supermodel" thing before with MJ, what will they make of Peter dating someone like that? Then again, considering those same hypocrites like Peter being a corporate busybody, I don't suppose it matters at this point.

Here's a fun factoid for you...back when I was a kid, I actually wanted Sable to end up with Sandman when they were part of the Wild Pack.

It's a surprise that Ben Reilly actually got votes.

@zarius: Dude, why are you so obsessed about keeping Peter as an "everyman"? The whole point of that was to come about naturally through Peter's actions and his humility, not to force him into being poor, unsuccessful, limit his romantic opportunities, etc etc. This is why I hate that misconception so much - people run away with it and try to ruin everything else about Spidey by stripping all natural progression away and stunting his character growth.

Because he works better as one. The stories are more relatable, things are simpler for it, you get a better grasp of the quality of life you have by living vicariously through his experiences. You also misunderstand me in that you assume I want to see him poor and unsuccessful. I don't. Whenever they go that route and really go to town on it, it leads to the worst possible storylines (Mackie's run, BND era) because Peter is frankly not the age for it. I just feel Peter being the "everyman" and using his smarts to prevent street-level crime (like his job in MC2) is more approachable to me than being a jet-flying corporate globetrotter. It's a subjective preference.

I don't know why you're so obsessed with him being Mr. Super-Genius when all signs have pointed to it NOT being natural character growth for him as it only occured by devil magic interrupting his TRUE continuity and path in life, and he attained his current success through someone else and is making crucial mistakes that the Peter I know wouldn't normally make, but is doing so for the benefit of a woefully written storyline so it flows from Point A to Point B

@zarius: I'm obsessed with him being Mr. Super-Genius because it is a core character trait, unless you think that building web shooters at the age of 15 is something anyone can do. Besides, the devil magic, as you call it, had nothing to do with this, (like I've explained many times), but rather with resurrecting Aunt May. 2 completely unrelated things. Also, I don't know what you are talking of when you speak of someone else, but Parker Industries' success is wholly Peter's (again, which I've explained to you numerous times).

As for him working better as one, that's very subjective, and it seems like many disagree with that. I'd rather continue to keep some logic in my comic books than ignore character traits in order to satisfy my upersonal preferences, but to each his own, I guess.

@dernman: Haven't you realized that you are the one continuously replying to my posts and THEN saying you have no interest in talking to me as my arguments are clearly superior? If you don't want to continue, don't reply.

@blackspidey2099: Are you still talking? Haven't you realized nobody is listening? I know I haven't actually read any of you're posts since early on once I realized it was you. Why do you think they're not addressing the things you say? So keep begging and get what you're getting.

Btw, the last I checked Kaine, SS, and Ock are all alive...

Since Kaine is actually alive I didn't want to waste a vote on him...

There's no one that I actually "want" to come back alive, but... I have no idea who this is. My biggest bets would be SS, Kaine or Doc Ock, but none of them were truly 100% dead to begin with. Nor do I think they're big enough to have an announcement just for that. UNLESS IT'S ONE FOR A NEW NEW SCARLET SPIDER SOLO QUIET FOOL A MAN CAN DREAM

I think CBR just copied my post, they just created a poll like I did here and listed everyone I did, well Except for Ned Leeds, I for what reason would they need to include Mattie Franklin to their list. granted I do it to their posts all the time, but at least I source them.

If "Dead No More" Refers to the Return of a Spider-Man Character, Who Do You Think It Will Be?

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@punyparker

@zarius

@amazingfantasy

@blackspidey2099

Obviously Kaine. Revealed to be alive at the end of Spider-Verse, no doubt he'll find his way back to 616. If it's not him, the other obvious is Doc Octavius via A.I. to wreck hell on Parker's life. Third, Silver Sable, since Madame Web confirms she's likely still alive.

From Comicbook.com

The Mystery of Marvel's "Dead No More" Solved?

Speculating about what's to come is a time honored tradition amongst comics fans. Parsing through solicits, foreshadowing, and minor details to unveil the machinations behind these monthly stories can be a lot of fun. Half of that fun lies in sharing your theories with friends and we here at ComicBook.Com have something we think is well worth sharing. There's nothing more hyped in superhero comics today than Marvel's "Dead No More", and we might have cracked its mystery.

The solution begins from two pieces of evidence found outside of comics. First Marvel updated their "Dead No More" ads to include a spider-web and red curtain, indicating a certain webhead would somehow be involved. Now the publisher has released details on their Free Comic Book Day offerings, specifically FCBD Captain America. The story focuses on Captain America being written by Nick Spencer, but there is a second writers name besides Spencers on the solicit: Dan Slott. If there is one thing Slott is synonymous with, it's Spider-Man. The announcement also mentions that this comic will also "offer new information on Marvel's mysterious 'Dead No More' story." If there was any doubt that this plot will focus on Spider-Man, that should be abolished.

Knowing that a Marvel story features Spider-Man doesn't mean too much considering he is their most popular character worldwide. However, Slott is also well known for plotting stories years in advance. The seeds for his Superior Spider-Man became all too obvious in retrospect, a structure of carefully laid groundwork leading to the replacement of Spider-Man with is arch-nemesis Doctor Octopus. So we decided to look at what Slott has been doing recently on Amazing Spider-Man to see what he might be up to, and there have been some significant clues since the relaunch of the series.

At the end of Amazing Spider-Man #2, the story jumps to a depressed Rhino lying on the beach who is approached by a mysterious stranger in a red suit. Just as Rhino appears ready to beat the stranger, he reveals his dead wife Oksana (killed in Amazing Spider-Man #617). The Rhino is overcome by gratitude and agrees to do whatever the stranger asks. This isn't the only instance of a villain's loved ones being made "dead no more" recently though.

Later at the end of Amazing Spider-Man #4, The Lizard is approached by the same stranger who reveals his wife and son (thought to be killed by cancer and his own hand, respectively) are alive and well. Again, the stranger has earned the loyalty of a classic Spidey villain by returning their loved ones to life.

This means two important things. One, a villain is collecting Spider-Man's greatest foes for some nefarious or, dare I say, sinister purpose. Two, that villain has the ability to return the dead to life in some capacity. So far these resurrections have only affected supporting characters, but there are several big names that have been brought up recently in Slott's run.

The most obvious name is that of Otto Octavius who was revealed to still be alive in the body of The Living Brain at the end of Amazing Spider-Man #1. If someone is looking for Spider-villains and has the ability to bring back the dead, there's no way they could skip the wall crawler's greatest deceased foe. If it weren't for Otto's mechanical state, it wouldn't be difficult to believe that he's behind it all. Instead, it looks like his return is just part of a much larger scheme.

There's one Spider-villain turned ally who has been waiting to make a return as well. Ever since Silver Sable was killed by The Rhino in "Ends of the Earth", Slott has focused on how guilty Peter feels about her death. He has obsessed over his own inability to save her and what he would do to save everyone. With both her killer and the ability to return the dead to life in the mix, is it possible that Silver Sable won't feature in "Dead No More"? What her role will be is unclear. Will she return as a villain (look at how souless the Connors family's eyes are when The Lizard looks at them)? Or will she become yet another deal with the devil that Peter cannot turn down?

What's clear is that someone with the ability to bring the dead back to life is plotting against Peter and collecting some of his greatest foes to help. "Dead No More" is bound to feature The Lizard, The Rhino, Doctor Octopus, and Silver Sable all in some capacity based on their roles in Slott's previous Spider-Man events. The only major question left is who is behind all of this?

That's the only piece of the puzzle that hasn't quite clicked into place yet, but we have two great theories. The first of which is that this is the return of Norman Osborne as the Green Goblin. He resurfaced at the end of Amazing Spider-Man #3 as an arms dealer whose face was wrapped in bandages. This would explain why neither The Lizard nor The Rhino recognized him, and would put Spidey's other greatest arch-nemesis at the forefront of this story.

The other option is Mr. Jacobs, a major investor in Parker Industries, who was just revealed to be the ringleader behind Zodiac who destroyed much of the gang in order to cover his own tracks. The color is certainly right considering the red suit of the stranger and red cape of Zodiac match. Zodiac also has some mystical abilities that might explain how he is resurrecting people.

Of course, the real answer might actually be it is both of these men. While Mr. Jacobs clearly alludes to Jacob Fury, the original Zodiac (currently deceased, for whatever it's worth), no one knows what Norman Osborne currently looks like. He's a well known multi-tasker and certainly up to the challenge of running a gang, an arms manufacturing operation, and investing on Wall Street. In fact, all three of these operations could benefit one another and fit right into the Green Goblin's wheelhouse. He's also one of the few living villains aware of Spider-Man's secret identity.

That's why we think "Dead No More" will be the start of the greatest Green Goblin scheme yet. The man in the red suit isn't wearing his true colors. Instead, he's wearing a variety of disguises in order to attach Spider-Man from all sides using his new power of life over death. With that power at his disposal, who knows what else might happen? Even Spider-Man's most dearly deceased like Gwen Stacy and Uncle Ben won't be safe from the Goblin's wrath.

So what do you think? Does this sound plausible or is there a better theory? Share your thoughts in the comments below.

@animehunter: Not sure if I'm fully convinced that Gobby is behind this. But if he is, then it'd be great. About time for Osborn to remind us readers why he is and will always be Spidey's arch nemesis.

None, let them stay dead.

They'll never do it but I would like his daughter. They bait us with her in the SecretWars Comics and there's been questions if she ever died to begin with. Just give the damn guy his baby

From the cover of Silk #13

Mattie Franklin Returns

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@amazingfantasy

@Elbarto17 aka Punyparker

@zariusii

@blackspidey2099

@riscrit aka Spideyryan

@magnetic_eye

@animehunter The guy in the red suit, it's the Jackal. He's cloning everyone, I'm assuming.

From Captain America & Amazing Spider-Man - Dead No More (FCBD 2016).

Yep you guest right, even the mask he's wearing the symbol for the Egyptian god Anubis you is often shown with the head of a Jackal.

i would gwen to be back like for good, for ever, but we know they're too stupid to bring her back, besides, I have to know, am i the only one who feels like she's gonna kill herself at the end of this? I mean, forget about fogiving peter, it doesn't mayer if she does or not, cuz am pretty sure she will kill herself for whatever stupid reason, just look at the last panel the llook in her eyes is like that of a wman who wanrs to die, and it's so awesome and creppy at the same dam time, the artist (this is Giuseppe Camuncoli, right?) is AMAZING, SUPERIOR, good thing ramos doesn't have anything to do with it, cuz he will fuck it up, excuse my french, but is the truth, he doesn't have the capacity to draw anything near as good as this

I am like genuinly scared and amazed byt the look on her eyes,

also I love how everyone here votes for sable and forget that web saud she is still alive

Giuseppe Camuncoli]

Would you like to be in a story written by Dan Slott?