Obvious spite is obvious. Spider Man has over a decade of experience dealing with symbiotes, but expecting him to fight with no prep? This is ridicules.
Palpatine kills Harry once then lies down in the relaxing, beautiful atmosphere of the Dark Forest and soon falls asleep. Shortly thereafter Voldy's horcrux takes effect and Harry kills Palpatine in his sleep
PIS for good side prevailing gooby pls
Hey, I forgot about the Horcrux effect. Good point.
Also, I see that no one has disputed my Imobulus argument. So I guess they cede that point.
@Xanni15: Your right. I misspoke when I said that it was unblockable. What I meant, is that it's unblockable by Sideous, who does not posses the skills to deflect such an attack. I may be wrong, but sectumsempra seems to be instantaneous. If not, there is always Confringo. Or Crucio, while not capable of being well cast by Harry, WOULD at least knock Sideous over. As it did to Belatrix in OOTP.
Sidious doesn't need to block it, though, he can move faster than Harry can think. That's what the battle comes down to, Sidious combat speed compared to Harry's reaction speed.
Can he move faster than Harry can think in the movies? No. Only in EU is Sid so fast.
Uh, yes, he can. He killed three of the four Jedi Masters before they could react. Harry's been hit by multiple spells.
That's fast, but not faster than Harry can think. That's not even faster than Harry can SPEAK, depending on how far apart they start. (I'm still waiting for that information)
Yes, it is. Sidious moved and killed three skilled people before any of the four of them could react. Harry's not an expert on non verbal spells, no has he displayed a quick wand.
That doesn't prove Maces speed, only the Jedi's stupidity.
Mace and Yoda has said earlier, "Our ability to use the force has been diminished".
Sideous is a master illusionist, he's probably been systematically been weaking the Jedi's mind's for years. That's my theory anyway. What you can't deny is the on screen evidence.
@ 0:38 Palpy makes his lunge
@ 0:40 Palpy hits the ground and the Jedi raise their lightsabers (in other words they reacted)
@ 0:42 Palpy impales the first guy, while everyone stands around
@ 0:43 Palpy kills another guy
@ 0:50 the last guy other than Mace
So Palpy is pretty fast once he gets his feet under him. (killing one guy a second after the first)
The problem, is in the LUNGE. It takes 4 seconds after the lunge (from about 10 feet away) to kill the first guy. MORE than enough time for Harry to say Imobulus. If they start from, say 20 feet away, it would undeniably take Palpy all the longer.
@1:29 Hermione reaches for her wand
@1:32 the spell hits
3 seconds. And her wand wasn't even at the ready. Harry could even do it nonverbally, as you have said.
Let's not get ugly here,,I'm tired of petty fights,,this is an OPINION thread,,if you don't agree than its fine with me,,I've made my statements...so like in the game clue : it was palpatine in the forest with the force choke
No it was Harry in the forest with Confringo. The murder weapon was a Phoenix feather wand, about 11 inches in length.
@Xanni15 said:
@venomsapprentice said:
@Xanni15 said:
@Xanni15: Your right. I misspoke when I said that it was unblockable. What I meant, is that it's unblockable by Sideous, who does not posses the skills to deflect such an attack. I may be wrong, but sectumsempra seems to be instantaneous. If not, there is always Confringo. Or Crucio, while not capable of being well cast by Harry, WOULD at least knock Sideous over. As it did to Belatrix in OOTP.
Sidious doesn't need to block it, though, he can move faster than Harry can think. That's what the battle comes down to, Sidious combat speed compared to Harry's reaction speed.
Can he move faster than Harry can think in the movies? No. Only in EU is Sid so fast.
Uh, yes, he can. He killed three of the four Jedi Masters before they could react. Harry's been hit by multiple spells.
That's fast, but not faster than Harry can think. That's not even faster than Harry can SPEAK, depending on how far apart they start. (I'm still waiting for that information)
The Cornish pixies were stopped with an imobulous spell btw!! Pffft muggle
LoL you got me on that. But thanks for adding another weapon to Harry's arsenal. XD
SIDEOUS: You don't know the power of the D...
HARRY: IMOBULOUS
SIDEOUS: *on the ground*
@Xanni15 said:
@venomsapprentice said:
@The_Roman said:
Palpatine is more likely to go for a straight kill
Palpatine has superior speed, particularly the killing 3 Masters before Windu could react feat.
Palpatine could use Force Lightning, there's nothing to suggest that Harry could block it with magic.
In the book, Sectusempra is not a wide-beam effect. It's said that he hits Draco in the chest with it. And Patrificus Totalus also has a narrow range of effect. The only time it was used (Philosopher's Stone), Hermione hit Neville with it at point-blank range.
Patrificus Totalus was also used in Chamber Of Secrets to stun an entire room full of Doxies.
@Xanni15: Your right. I misspoke when I said that it was unblockable. What I meant, is that it's unblockable by Sideous, who does not posses the skills to deflect such an attack. I may be wrong, but sectumsempra seems to be instantaneous. If not, there is always Confringo. Or Crucio, while not capable of being well cast by Harry, WOULD at least knock Sideous over. As it did to Belatrix in OOTP.
Sidious doesn't need to block it, though, he can move faster than Harry can think. That's what the battle comes down to, Sidious combat speed compared to Harry's reaction speed.
Can he move faster than Harry can think in the movies? No. Only in EU is Sid so fast.
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