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#1  Edited By urbanchamp

@JakeN7: These guys who have a site membership blog at the Screwattack site did a more detailed breakdown of Goku and Superman's powers. They did a better job, in my opinion, than the video creators. They did this, I believe, to stop the massive insanity that's happened on youtube and the Screwattack site as a result of Goku losing. The anime/DB fans literally rioted on the internet. Whoever lost, I knew something like this would happen. But, I hate to say it, but I knew it would be worse if Goku lost. I am a big fan of anime. I have been one since 1994. I love Dragon Ball. I only turn 33 years old in 4 months, and I know this is going to make me seem like an old ass man talking like this, but I am usually embarrassed when I see how a lot of these younger anime fans (for some reason, especially Dragon ball fans) behave on the internet with their stupidity and trolling and spamming. The way they were acting in the comments of the battle preview video Screwattack put on youtube, and in comments on blogs on Screwattack was retarded. I have seen nerd rage and stupidity from comic fans on many forums over the past 12 years, but NONE of it compared to that. And it's not a recent phenomena because in the past on other sites I've had to shake my head in disdain. It's like they're on a 24/7/365 sugar high and have extreme ADHD and bladder problems. Anyway, in the post they put up, they were EXTREMELY generous with the amount of power correcting they did with Goku. As for the result, I'll just let you read it for yourself. People have made videos highlighting the results of the write-up. Some people accept it, some people are angry, some people are having a good time with it.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/final-analysis-superman-and-goku-w-power-levels

As for Naruto vs Goku....WTF are these rabid fans thinking??? Do they even WATCH ANY Dragon Ball??? I can't fathom why anybody would even think of that! Unless you mean Goku that fought Vegeta from the Saiyan Saga! *FACEPALM*

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Very epic indeed. I wished him a happy birthday on twitter.

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@Jorgevy: Lifting strength can be overrated,. Looking at real-life examples of it you can see how it's true. Just because someone can lift a lot of weight doesn't mean they'll be a powerful knockout puncher in boxing. There are a lot of other factors that go into that sort of thing other than pure strength. Pure strength certainly helps, but it's far from the only thing. If the best KO boxers in history were able to increase their pure strength (particularly in their back muscles, core, and legs) and not limit their other attributes they'd be able to get even more KOs.

What is "wrapping strength"? Is that a typo?

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@Ben836: I see that you're trying to base them off of feats. And these feats are still, for the most part, extremely inconsistent. It's like they either abruptly toned down everyone's physical strength, speed, and durability after the Freeza saga, or they just dramatically decreased the amount of physical strength, speed, and durability they gain from an increase in power level after the Freeza saga. Either way, everyone seemed to get nerfed big time some kind of way. I noticed this watching the series myself. Something just seemed horribly lacking by the time the Androids and Cell came around. Their energy offense and defense abilities were still going up at a rate that seemed right, but everything else seemed to increase a MUCH MUCH lower rate.

"I can lift about 120 pounds give or take. If I were a Super Saiyan, I could lift 6,000 pounds regardless of other factors. Why, Super Saiyan transformation increases stats and energy by x50. Ascended Super Saiyan I could life 12,000 pounds. I am gonna convert that into tons. So, I divide by 2,000. I get 6. I could lift 6 tons! I am not going by powerlevels of any kind, I calculated the physical attribute of each transformation. I calculated powerlevel's before, it was so large I couldn't fit it on a calculator."

As I said in my first message, power level increases just do not equal the equivalent amount of increase in pure physical strength/muscle. There's no evidence for that. Super Saiyen 4 Goku's physical abilities and feats are supposed to be MANY times higher than SS1 but you sure as hell wouldn't even know that by what he actually does. I've tried explaining my thoughts on this again. I'm not sure if you understand me or not. Maybe someone else does.

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Hi. I've also been anticipating the Goku vs Superman video. I did a search for some stuff and I came across some posts on Comicvine. I've always known about the forum but I just decided to make an account so I could respond to something here. I totally agree with jloneblackheart. I've seen other people making the exact same assumptions without any evidence for it. If anything, there's always evidence against their claims. Power levels increases never equate to the same fixed incremental increases in raw strength or even speed. I've seen a lot of Dragon Ball fans try to say the same thing about Goku's speed. Power levels are a measurement of something's overall power, not one thing in particular. The only thing that really seems to increase dramatically with power levels are a character's ability to manipulate energy and their body's resistance to damage from another character's energy attacks. Everything else increases but at a MUCH lower rate.