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Whoever says Genjutsu won't work, is wrong. It doesn't target chakra; it targets senses.

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@animelegend68@hypnos0929

Can create multiple clones of himself out of nothing

Can create clones of his opponent that have equal strength as the opponent

Those clones he created of himself are much smaller, and I doubt any of them have feats close to the real Janemba. They should be taken out by the bombs scattered all over the place.

Remote Bombs don't explode unless Link wants them to, and the Nice Bombs cause more damage than a standard bomb. Link can blow up your clones even without bombs with the Blast Mask, so they'll die right after Janemba creates them. Since Janemba has never demonstrated the copying of Chaos Energy or anything like it, he'll just create an inferior Link to the enhanced Link, which will be taken out quickly.

Can punch through portals and tag Goku before he can even react

Link won't need to react, he's wearing his Magic Armor and has invincibility.

SPEED

STRENGTH/STRIKING POWER

DURABILITY

Roy has already disproven all of your feats on how Janemba's stats are far above Sonic or Link. The Magic Armor will block all of Janemba's strikes easily, he won't be harming Link anytime soon. Link is massively hypersonic by himself, so he's easily light speed with the Pegasus Boots and the chaos boost.

You may think Janemba is too durable to be harmed, but the thing is, Link can attack people inside their bodies. He's sent Bombchus inside of enemy's mouths to blow them up from the inside. Or he can use Light Arrows, which are capable of defeating any evil.

Better yet, Link can just combine the two weapons for a Bombchu Light Arrow. Before you ask, he's done this before with standard arrows and bombs. Once Janemba is shot with this projectile of extreme speed, his defenses will be pierced and his insides will be blasted apart. Light Arrows have worked time and time again on Ganondorf, who has immunity to most of Link's other attacks.

Kratos can EASILY react to lightning, which is quite impressive indeed.

This isn't the least bit impressive; lightning only moves at 224,000 miles per hour. Sonic and Link move at the speed of light, Kratos won't see them coming. He won't be able to prepare for Link stabbing him.

Keep watching til about the 4 minute mark, because not only does Kratos tank a lightning blast to the face from the King of the Gods, who managed to harm titans with this very same lightning, but he also fell off of Mt. Olympus, and landed in the River Styx, with it not even phasing him in the slightest.

Unless the Titans have feats of planetary durability, Kratos hasn't exhibited anything showing he can survive Link's attacks. Link flipped the Earth with his Golden Gauntlets; he can use them to one-shot Kratos.

Janemba can easily turn Link's sword into a jellybean so he won't even be able to use it. He could also create a portal to redirect any of Links attacks right back at him, not to mention that Janemba is too fast for Link to even react to.

It's not like Link has just one sword, he also has the Master Sword in his possession. If Janemba does do anything to Link's swords, Sonic would just reverse it back. Why would Link send his attacks into a portal? Link would sidestep it and keep attacking.

Janemba could easily use his matter manipulation to turn his shield into something else

What feats does Links armor have that suggest that he can be protected from "all harm"

Destroying the world is weak compared to DBZ characters, especially the ones that are past the Cell saga. I doubt that Link has the durability to tank even one punch from Janemba.

Ki isn't magic, so the reflect skill wouldn't work against Janemba

  1. It's not like Link only carries one shield with him, he has many of those things.
  2. It's magically enhanced armor, and it's been shown to be stronger than Link's shield.
  3. Link pulled the entire weight of Earth using a chain without breaking his arms. No doubt he can tank a punch from Janemba.
  4. I'll give you this.

Any feats that prove his gauntlets can hurt Janemba?

Did you not see the calculation putting Link's gauntlet strength at multiple tenatons?

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At 6:36, you can see Link using his sword to slice the moon in half. Note how he isn't wearing his Golden Gauntlets. With those on, Link's sword slices will have tremendous strength. Throw in two helpings of the Elixir Soup, and that quadruples the damage he puts out with his sword. It doesn't end there either. I'm still enhanced thanks to Sonic. So now we're looking at a multi-planetary+ level attack that Janemba can't survive.

Blowing through walls isn't even close to Janembas durability. Janemba has far beyond multi planetary level durability.

Janemba has shown to move massively FTL and even at instant speeds, blitzing Link won't be a problem at all

Link will most likely be oneshotted by Janemba, he has no feats that suggest he can tank punches that can go through planets(with a far higher mass than Earth).

All addressed above.

Janemba is far too fast to even give Link the chance to attack Kratos. He can create multiple clones of sonic so they can fight link while Janemba and Kratos sit back and watch. Janemba has the speed to easily be able to blitz both members on your team, so Link won't even have time to use and of his bombs or weapons.

You used speed scaling for Janemba from Goku, who isn't nearly as fast as you think he is. Link will slip by him and kill Kratos, and if Janemba somehow stops him, Sonic (easily the fastest one here) will go kill Kratos instead. Link and Sonic both have Chaos Energy that will help them easily defeat those clones. Also, Link can use the Magic Cape to turn invisible and intangible, thus rendering him untrackable and untouchable.

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And can also evade your attacks with teleportation, intangibility, etc. So this covers defense

His punches are higher than multi planetary level, which alone is higher than what your team can tank

He's faster than both members on your team

He can simply create clones of sonic and Link, and let them fight without moving a muscle.

  1. Sonic and Link wouldn't even attack into a portal, they'd reposition themself. Janemba doesn't even have true intangibility, his body just splits up. All Link needs to do is hit him with a large explosion from one of his strongest bombs. And if he teleports, Link just waits until he disappears and uses a Light Arrow.
  2. No feats put his punches at that high, the most you've shown is planetary+ level.
  3. Nope.
  4. Magic Cape.

3:30 to 4:00. The golden fleece is used to grab and throw a magical fire ball, this will help against any projectiles thrown at Kratos and anything Link may try to hit him with

The only projectiles Link will be trying to hit Kratos with are his ubiquitous bombs, and he'll need insane speed feats if he wants to throw all of those at once. Link can just control a Bombchu to go behind Kratos, and if he picks that up, Link explodes a bunch of Remote Bombs near him.

Golden Fleece won't even work on Link's sword or Golden Gauntlets anyways, and either of these things kill Kratos in one shot.

The bow Kratos uses from 9:45 to 9:55 is the bow of Apollo. This rivals Links arrows because they have the capacity to hurt Zeus who is the most powerful enemy, that isn't held in chains and/or held by something, in the god of war series. They also stick in Zeus' leg if you look closely

Being the most powerful enemy doesn't mean you're that durable. Additionally, it doesn't mean Zeus or Kratos is anywhere near the level of Link or the people he's fought.

1:15 to 1:25. The army of Sparta is used, this is a mainly defensive move but it will deal some damage to Link and Sonic

Proof that Link can't just block it with his shield, or that Link and Sonic couldn't just dodge it?

19:30 to 19:35 Kratos uses Medusa's head to turn his enemies to stone then breaks them. This allows Kratos to slow down and/or stop Link and Sonics movements. If either Sonic or Link are in the air during the time when they are frozen in stone, they will die when they hit the ground. If they are already on the ground Kratos or Janemba can brake them which will kill them

Not only was this pretty slow, it barely had any range, and a basic enemy was able to hit Kratos while he was using it.

Minutes 11:10 -11:30. This shows if Kratos dies during this fight, because like Ares he will explode. Note that Kratos' explosion is of light and is a brighter white-ish blue color. This I will call a last resort if all else fails or if Link does manage to kill Kratos, which I doubt will happen

All Link has to do is run up and swing his Golden Gauntlet's ball and chain, instantly crushing Kratos. That explosion isn't going to do much if Link just shields it or the Magic Armor stops it.

This would easily give Janemba and Kratos the win because Kratos is stronger, more durable and faster than Link, he also has more weapons and useful abilities than can help him both defensively, such as the golden fleece which deflect anything that hits it, and offensively, like the claws of hades, which can take away souls of people much, much stronger than Link and the blade of Olympus, which has all of Kratos' godly powers and some of Zeus' powers still in it.

Erm, what? Link kept up with massively hypersonic folk, flipped the planet 360 degrees, and tanked the force of that when he did. Kratos isn't faster than Link, and there's no way he's stronger or more durable. Link has loads of items that are much better and stronger than what Kratos has. Kratos won't be able to even use any of weapons before Sonic or Link speedblitzes him.

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Wow, I was thinking of creating this exact battle.

But yeah, Erza wins.

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#4  Edited By ShazamFan666

@shazamfan666: I love both Link and Sonic, but I'm curious, why didn't you include his Bow? I know most of his arrows are too slow, but there are his Light arrows

Also in Wind Walker, there is a Healing Item that heals Link to full and doubles his Sword Damage in till he takes damage

I thought about using the Light Arrows later, but I didn't bring any of that up because it's not necessary ATM. Also, I can't use that WW item because it's not standard equipment.

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This match should be pretty easy. Kratos is pretty weak compared to everyone else in the tournament.

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Link is the protagonist of the Legend of Zelda series, and is one of Nintendo's most iconic characters. Throughout his games, he's collected a wide array of different weapons and other items with tons of different effects. These items allow him to implement high levels of versatility and strategy.

Sword

Link can use many different techniques with his sword.

  • Hurricane Spin: Link stores up his power, and spins around in a massive slash that goes in all directions. It can easily deal with a large amount of enemies simultaneously.
  • Skyward Strike: Link stores up his power, and using sacred energy, fires a massive sword beam.
  • Mortal Draw: Link drops his defenses and waits for an opponent to get close. Once they do, he slashes them to near death.

Shields and Armor

Link will be going into battle with his most powerful armor, the Magic Armor. It protects him from all harm. In one hand, he'll also be wielding the Hylian Shield. It is virtually indestructible, and will be able to block all of your attacks with ease. It can block even withstand the attacks of Demise, who has been confirmed to be able to destroy the world, and is the ultimate evil. Link can also enhance his shield with the Reflect spell, which not only increases its durability further, but gives it the power to reflect magical attacks back at the attacker.

Gauntlets

Link has Silver and Golden Gauntlets, which increase his strength to unbelievable levels. He can lift pretty much whatever he wants, and slam it onto anything as an attack. With his strongest gauntlets, he can use electric attacks, and become strong enough to flip Earth upside down.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=25436

With either of his pairs of gauntlets comes a ball and chain that can be used to crush things, or simply pull them.

Bombs

Link can use around a maximum fifty bombs that explode after certain amounts of time. These bombs can easily blast through entire walls, and Link can use multiple at a time, dropping them each in different spots. Bombchus are a special bomb that all move in a straight line until they reach a target, and explode once they do. Bombchus can also home into enemies or be controlled by Link if he wishes. A second variation of bombs are the Big Bombs, which deal double the damage of normal bombs.

Boots

Yet another item available to the hero are his boots. He has two pairs that are both standard and helpful to him: the Iron Boots and the Pegasus Boots. The Iron Boots make him heavy, decreasing his weight, yet making it so that he can't be overwhelmed by powerful forces like strong wind. The Pegasus Boots will increase his speed.

Note how fast Link is, even without the Pegasus Boots. Onox, an antagonist Link fought, was capable of moving at massively hypersonic speed, and Link kept up with him.

http://www.narutoforums.com/blog.php?b=21586

Healing Items

Link can restore his health at almost any time he wishes, using his items. Available to him are a red potion, a Heart Container, and Chu Jelly. All of these will restore a lot of Link's health, helping him recover from most attacks.

Strategy

Link with everything at his disposal will be a dominating force in this match, even without the upgrades he gets from Sonic. He will start off attacking Kratos, which will be accomplished in a matter of seconds thanks to the Mortal Draw, which he only needs to strike with three times. And if Kratos tries to resurrect himself, Link just kills him again the same way. With Kratos down, Link will remain back at his starting point after scattering out many Big Bombs, regular bombs, and Bombchus. At the starting point, he attacks from long range.

  • You'll have to get past the Magic Armor, the Hylian Shield that reflects your attacks, and the invincibility provided by Sonic.
  • If you do manage to land any scratches on Link, he'll just heal himself. His healing items will work on Sonic too.
  • You have the bombs to deal with. Link can control them to attack you wherever you are, though this is pointless because they can home into your team.
  • If you try any flying, Link simply crushes you with his ball and chain, which should kill you instantly. Also, Link will be able to fly too thanks to Sonic.
  • You still have Link's sword techniques to deal with as well.

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@hypnos0929: Posting order is one person for a team, then a person on another team.

It goes team 1 member , then team 2, and back and forth. You don't post as one big post for both teams, but separate ones. So essentially debater 1 of team one posts, then debater 1 of team two posts, then debater 2 of team one posts, and then debate 2 of team two posts. It will go like that for the debate.

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@RoyRodgersMcFreely: It's @Animelegend68's turn right now.

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