@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: Sorry I did not reply my response to you that's my bad.
He was masterful, PHX was a great team, it was fun to watch and he clearly was the main reason behind it. It's hard for me to argue against someone who is probably the best shooter of all time and was having as many assists as he did. He deserved it.
Nash is certainly not the best shooter of all time, Ray Allen ,Reggie Miller,Steve Kerr,Larry Bird were all better 3 point shooters to me.This is a yes or no question was Setve Nash ever the best player in the NBA? No but he did win the MVP twice which by your standards mean he was the best player in the NBA at the time which we can all agree he was not,that's my whole knock with the MVP award.
I'm not going to compare Kerr to these guys. I don't like comparing specialists who only really had 2 jobs, 1 was try not to be horrible and 2 was do whatever the one thing it was they were good at. Cant compare them to someone like Nash, Bird, Reggie or Ray who was expected to carry the whole team & had much more responsibility. Not saying Kerr wasn't a good player but it's a whole different league here. Kerr I don't think even started...ever.
If you look at pure volume made then Nash isn't one of the best, if you look at pure shooting percentage however, Nash is a machine. His FG%, 3pt% & FT% are ALL tops among those guys & it's not like Nash is like Tony Parker who lives in the paint. So for someone like Nash who has to handle the ball as much as he does and still be able to make that many quality shots is amazing. I just imagine someone like Kobe who shoots a bad percentage because of the responsibilities and then apply it with Nash and it's amazing how he can shoot as well as he does. You would expect someone like Nash to shoot in the low 40s in FG% & low to mid 30s for 3pt% but no, he's better than Reggie, Bird & Ray who for the most part they were spot up shooters and played off of screens. That to me makes Nash the best shooter I've ever seen.
As far as whether or not Nash was the best player in the NBA at the time when he won his 2 MVPs. For his 1st MVP I thought it was a toss up between Nash, Duncan, Dirk & Shaq. Those 4 guys to me were the best players in the NBA for that year & I have no problems with Nash winning it. I'm not going to take anything away from Nash but either way Kobe had no business being in the conversation that year. You just can't play in about 60 games, your team not make the playoffs and still be considered Most Valuable when you have these other guys who did what they did.
The 2nd year however.....Kobe was robbed!! If there was ever a guy that was doing all he can in a losing effort it was Kobe. If Kwame didn't have his head in the gutter after that rape allegation, the Lakers would have beaten the Suns in the 1st round IMO! We were up 3-1 I believe until that BS.
But when Kobe finally won it...CP3 was robbed!!
But like I said, you have to consider everything, championships, mvps, records and right now I don't see Kobe being in the top 3 of all time. He needs 1 more championship to even be in the conversation of being GOAT
Kobe has 5 championships he has many records we have already been over the MVP thing,Kobe pretty much excels at everything you name except maybe MVP? And I agree Kobe is not in the top 3 now but by time he ends his career he could be.
He has 5 championships but Shaq was the regular season MVP, the Finals MVP & Kobe was just the side kick for 3 of those championships. How are you going to compare that to Jordan? To me Kobe needs another amazing year or 2 to even be mentioned as possibly the GOAT. A MVP would help but another championship along with being named finals MVP at Kobe's age to me would make Kobe more worthy to be mentioned with Jordan. If Kobe wins another championship and Dwight or whoever is the finals MVP instead of Kobe, that doesn't say to me that Kobe is definately GOAT better than Jordan.
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