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X-Men(cyclops,storm,magneto,namor,rogue,magik,kitty pryde,colossus(juggs),wolverine,forge,cannonball,iceman and Box)

VS Solomon Grundy and Brianiac

JLA(superman,wonder woman, flash, green lantern,batman,vixen,aquaman,cyborg,black canary, green arrow,martian manhunter,and hawkgirl )

VS Dr.Doom and Proteus

Who takes out their enemy first?

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#2  Edited By SaintJohn

X-Men(cyclops,storm,magneto,namor,rogue,magik,kitty pryde,colossus(juggs),wolverine,forge,cannonball,iceman and Box)

VS Solomon Grundy and Brianiac

JLA(superman,wonder woman, flash, green lantern,batman,vixen,aquaman,cyborg,black canary, green arrow,martian manhunter,and hawkgirl )

VS Dr.Doom and Proteus

Who takes out their enemy first?

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#3  Edited By SaintJohn

The reasons there is sooooooo many issues is because DC didn't fully think the "reboot" all the way out. I can easily explain it. correct me if im wrong but.

1)Batmans timeline is just destroyed 4 robins in 5 years, plus Nightwing said he was Batman for a time ALONG with Tim never being a Robin ON TOP OF him having Damien.lol there is NO WAY for them to fix this that doesnt involve something foolish like time travel or magic. Then to make it worst you have to add Batman Inc, Batgirl, Oracle and Batwoman to the mix with the fact that he has only been Batman a max of maybe 8-10 years.lol

2)Hal touched on the darkest night, not to mention having John, and Guy around. Geez.

3)Garth being younger, no Wally but you have a Barry and a Bart.......wow.

4)Starfire "kind of" remembering the old pre flashpoint Teen Titans.

5)Batman has a note from his father during flashpoint. Batman, Flash and Hal all mention things that happened before Flashpoint. smh

6)You have Nightwing, Starfire,Beast Boy, Cyborg,now Raven. NO Donna Troy, Have Damien Skip over Cassandra Cain then deage Lady Shiva to around Nightwings age and have Batwoman the same age or a little younger than Nightwing WTF No Hawkgirl(earth 2 i know) but have Hawkman and Mister Terrific.

7)Final one...Superman talkes about dying. Like come on. How do you pick bits and pieces and try to make a story not knowing that most of these stories intertwine and can't say one without the other.

So no DC does not have some grand scheme for things. They are simply making it up as they go along depending on the griping of customers and sales. If there was a grand scheme or plan then it wouldn't be sooo many loop holes and problems in these stories. These aren't "cloudy moments" where they can fill it in later, these are big issues in the time line where they forgot or didnt think about "hmm if we restart everything then to we have to tell everyones story over again" not thinking that the 5 years jump they had wouldnt be long enough to tell 40 years worth of stories properly.lol

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#4  Edited By SaintJohn

@Killemall: yes two months

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Cap EASILY. And I can explain it very well. Batman is peak human so basically he and punisher is on the same level.

Cap is above peak human,Stronger,better balance,memory, faster,more durable, can heal faster and knows pressure points too, and he isn't above fighting dirty to win. Deathstroke beat Batmans natural ass remember? Captain America would be able to land 3 blows to Batmans 1, and the fact that he is faster and stronger than Batman means that he wins. I understand that Batman has more skill(thats not debateable, Batman is hands down more skilled) but When someone is stronger and faster then that skill margin is cut down dramatically. Captain America made his OWN fighting style after studying almost every fighting style on his own.

So H2H Cap would beat him every time but with weapons then it becomes a tie. Batman is great but come on the reason he lost to deathstroke and will always lose is because Deathstroke has EVERY physical advantage over him, so Batman has to use prep to fight Cap becaus in an honest fight Batman WOULD be able to beat Cap if Cap was a novice........................... but Cap is highly trained AND physically superior.

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A fight for the title of best team.

X-Men:Cyclops,Magneto,Wolverine, Domino,Emma,Cable, Psylocke, Kid Omega, Beast, Kitty Pryde, Rogue, Northstar, Colossus(juggs), Namor, Magik, Danger, Nightcrawler(aoa), Iceman, Storm, Gambit,X-Man, Cannonball, Box,Nemesis,Havok,Zero, Deadpool,Jubilee(vamp) Warpath, X-23, and Dust.

Avengers:Captain America, Thor, Ironman(any armor), Black Widow, Spiderwoman,Daredevil, Spiderman,Hercules, Wonder Man, Hawkeye, Luke Cage, Ironfist, Hank Pym, Valkyrie, Black Panther,She Hulk,The Vision, Ms. Marvel, Red Hulk, Mockingbird, and War Machine

JLA:Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Cyborg, Aquaman,Hawkgirl,Hal Jordan,Zauriel,Ray, Dr.Light, Orion, Big Barda,The Atom Batman, Green Arrow, Booster Gold, Vixen,Geo-Force, Black Canary, Red Tornado, Captain Marvel, Martain Manhunter, and Black Lightning.

1)X-Men has to save the world from Thanos,Hyperion,and Sinestro within 2 months.

2)Avengers has to save the world from Darkseid, Vulcan, and Loki within 2 months.

3)JLA has to save the world from Proteus, Dr. Doom, and Brainiac within 2 months.

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for anyone who even thinks this is an original idea you are sadly mistaken. They are copying Marvel. Marvel did it in a way NO comic fan thought would be possible. To have back to back movies that actually tie in together and then put out a super hero team movie(which NO ONE thought would be possible) and they nailed it. The movie was the great hero movie ever. Now for them to come along and then try to copy it is is utterly pathetic. DC you are better than that. Guardians of the galaxy STILL ties into the Avengers 2 movie. DC only had Christopher Nolans Batman, while Marvel had Thor, Ironman 1+2,Captain America,Hulk, Amazing Spiderman, Spiderman trilogy, and X-Men trilogy. I mean Marvel is just killing them movie wise. I'm a fan of Marvel and DC. and if it wasnt for Avengers, Dark Knight Rises would have been unstoppable. But Im like DC please be original and do something creative, because there was no real urgency for this hero movie until the Avengers came out.

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1/Marvel)Captain America,Black Panther,Hawkeye,Ironfist, Wolverine, Punisher,Daredevil, Winter Solider and Black Widow

2/DC)Batman,Cassandra Cain,Green Arrow,Nightwing,Midnighter(new 52),Black Canary, Red Arrow,Catwoman and Jason Todd.

Team Marvel has to rid Gotham of The League of Assassins,Court of Owls, Bane, The Joker,Hush and Deathstroke.

Team DC has to rid New York of HAMMER(A.I.M,The Hand, and Hydra), Taskmaster, Sabretooth, and Norman Osborn.

Who cleans the city up in the fastest time?

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@LordVulcan: Im not saying who is the winner. Im just saying Batman has a chance of winning also. Batman family is smarter,has tech, and better strategies. Wolverines team has better have special abilities,are more ruthless and are overall better fighters. Bane,Hush and Joker would be easy to track down for Wolverines team but might not be easy to defeat due to how smart they are and the tricks/tactics they use. Sabretooth, Lady Deathstrike, and Taskmaster would be found by Batmans family and can be brought down by Batman but just not in a straight up fight. So i think its about even.

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Cyclops, Magneto, Wolverine,Northstar, Danger, Magik,Namor, Storm, Colossus(juggs) Emma Frost, X-Man,Rogue, Domino and Iceman

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Solomon Grundy,Cheetah and Brainiac

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Superman, Wonder Woman, Hal Jordan, Aquaman, Flash, Green Arrow, Batman, Cyborg, Big Barda,Hawkgirl,7 and Black Canary

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Vulcan,Apocalypse. and Exodus